MMA News: UFC-Fedor close?; Carano-Cyborg to fight

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MuckMuckretired_adminOP
Jun 10, 2009, 08:41 PM

Yeah, this isn't in the official MMA thread. And I'm never putting anything in there again.

Well, maybe not never. But I personally dislike those massive threads. One thread for an entire sport? And technically, they don't help the site from a search engine standpoint. More threads is better. Within reason, of course. Common sense applies.

Anyway, Carano and Santos (Cyborg is a stupid name) are fighting August 15th on Showtime.

And now for the bigger news. Granted this was from over a week ago. But I just heard another cat talking on the radio this morning about it, and didn't see it in 'the monstrocity'. :lol: Anyway, it's looking like Fedor could very well be jumping to UFC assuming he gets past Josh Barnett.

In a February interview with DreamFighters.com , Fedor said "Me and my management hope to get a chance to talk to Dana White in person in June to discuss a possible fight between me and Brock ." Sure enough, on Sunday -- the last day of May -- Dana White was Twittering about having a "HUGE" meeting in Los Angeles the next day. "Insane for UFC fans if we get this done," he tweeted.

Then, in a video blog posted on YouTube on Tuesday, White mentioned the Kimbo Slice participation on The Ultimate Fighter , and followed up with this:

"Lorenzo and I had a killer, killer meeting in Los Angeles today, and I was hoping I would be able to tell you about it today, but the way deals go, they take time," White said in the video. "So I can't tell you today, but I can tell you it was a great meeting and I'm feeling very confident that we're gonna get this deal done, and it's gonna literally change the UFC forever."

Fedor was in the US last week.

Is there anything/anyone else outside the UFC that could "change the UFC forever"?

Make the throwback uniforms permanent!

TiP54TiP54New Member
Jun 10, 2009, 08:49 PM

Eh.
Im being skeptical.
Ive heard this one too many times. They supposebly had the deal "done" and even were supposed to announce it, but it got cancelled to due "minor fixtures" but..hey, if it happens, it will be awesome. Yes Fedor was in us, i saw him at the strikeforce event. He was with bunch of Russians repping the M-1 shirts. If that happens...my god :D

MuckMuckretired_admin
Jun 10, 2009, 09:00 PM

"Mari0k wrote:

Eh.
Im being skeptical.
Ive heard this one too many times. They supposebly had the deal "done" and even were supposed to announce it, but it got cancelled to due "minor fixtures" but..hey, if it happens, it will be awesome. Yes Fedor was in us, i saw him at the strikeforce event. He was with bunch of Russians repping the M-1 shirts. If that happens...my god :D

Would Fedor-Lesnar not be the biggest fight ever?

Assuming they can manage to keep winning of course. But the build-up would be monumental. And it would definitely shatter the box office record.

A late December blowout card like last year would be perfect. Make Rampage-Rashad one of the co-mains. Give the 'new' viewers more great fights and get them hooked!

Make the throwback uniforms permanent!

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jun 10, 2009, 09:04 PM

not happening....sorry.....no way they give fedor a one fight contract for the title......cause if he wins.....it looks like ****....he walks in....beats the ufc HW champ and walks out saying "told you im the best...." and its done.....enless they add more fights to the contract i dont see dana giving fedor a one fight contract...

TiP54TiP54New Member
Jun 10, 2009, 09:10 PM

"Muck wrote:

Would Fedor-Lesnar not be the biggest fight ever?

Assuming they can manage to keep winning of course. But the build-up would be monumental. And it would definitely shatter the box office record.

A late December blowout card like last year would be perfect. Make Rampage-Rashad one of the co-mains.

No doubt.
Dana said Fedor would get the title shot immediately...but will it happen? Thats the question.

TiP54TiP54New Member
Jun 10, 2009, 09:39 PM

"SICK wrote:

not happening....sorry.....no way they give fedor a one fight contract for the title......cause if he wins.....it looks like ****....he walks in....beats the ufc HW champ and walks out saying "told you im the best...." and its done.....enless they add more fights to the contract i dont see dana giving fedor a one fight contract...

no, no way.
Not a 1 fight contract.
It aint gonna happen :lol:

MuckMuckretired_admin
Jun 10, 2009, 10:16 PM

"SICK wrote:

not happening....sorry.....no way they give fedor a one fight contract for the title......cause if he wins.....it looks like ****....he walks in....beats the ufc HW champ and walks out saying "told you im the best...." and its done.....enless they add more fights to the contract i dont see dana giving fedor a one fight contract...

Why does it have to be a one-fight contract?

Fedor has never even brought that up.

Make the throwback uniforms permanent!

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jun 10, 2009, 10:31 PM

"Muck wrote:

Why does it have to be a one-fight contract?

Fedor has never even brought that up.

im lookin for a link but on the sherdog forums it has been mentioned multiple times fedor is asking for a one fight contract for the title

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jun 10, 2009, 10:33 PM

FTR: people are saying this is the big announcement.......

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=20420

Las Vegas, NV (USA) – The UFC® Octagon™ isn’t just for fighters anymore. Now, for the first time in the 15-year history of the Ultimate Fighting Championship®, anyone - no matter how young or old – can experience what it’s like to train in the most exciting sport in the world thanks to the launch of the UFC® Gym™. UFC and New Evolution Fitness Company (NEFC) announced today that Concord, California will be the first home to the ultimate fitness destination, one that combines a complete UFC experience with mixed martial arts and fitness.

“We are excited to open our first UFC Gym, it’s going to have something for everyone in the family, from traditional mixed martial arts classes, to all-around fitness classes, personal training and a gym just for kids,” said Dana White, UFC President. “We are going to redefine the fitness industry, and get everyone excited about fitness again, starting with the first UFC Gym in Concord, California.”

NEFC Co-founders, Mark Mastrov and Jim Rowley, both from the East Bay, believe that Concord, CA is the ideal location for the first UFC Gym. “Born, raised and now residing in the East Bay, we wanted our first UFC Gym to be close to home. This facility will allow us to carefully monitor and fine-tune the UFC Gym concept for future growth and provide our community with fitness training in new dynamic ways,” said Mark Mastrov.

Big EBig ENew Member
Jun 10, 2009, 10:41 PM

I want to see Fedor and Coutore go at it.

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jun 10, 2009, 10:44 PM

finally found it muck....here it is

http://www.mmabay.co.uk/Story%2001615.html

M-1 Global, the promotional company behind WAMMA heavyweight champion, Fedor Emelianenko has sensationally offer the UFC their man on a one fight deal, allowing him to challenge the winner of the Brock Lesnar/Frank Mir fight set for UFC 100.

According to the L.A. Times, Joost Raimond, the operations manager of M-1 Global, has invited the undisputed UFC heavyweight champion (whoever should it be) to attend the third Affliction event on August 1st in Anaheim, California.

He is also pushing the UFC to allow Emelianenko to compete on a fully promoted UFC card against whoever has the title at the time.

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jun 10, 2009, 10:45 PM

"BIG E wrote:

I want to see Fedor and Coutore go at it.

lmao fedor wins by 1st round manslaughter.........randy aint what he used to be

Big EBig ENew Member
Jun 11, 2009, 08:24 AM

"SICK wrote:

lmao fedor wins by 1st round manslaughter.........randy aint what he used to be

I think Randy is a better match up for Fedor than Brock would be. I just honestly dont see anyone in MMA that can stand with Lesnar and have more then a slim chance at winning.

TiP54TiP54New Member
Jun 11, 2009, 09:58 AM

"BIG E wrote:

I think Randy is a better match up for Fedor than Brock would be. I just honestly dont see anyone in MMA that can stand with Lesnar and have more then a slim chance at winning.

Who said anything about standing?
:shifty:

Big EBig ENew Member
Jun 11, 2009, 10:21 AM

"Mari0k wrote:

Who said anything about standing?
:shifty:

Brocks a world class wrestler who happens to be as strong as a polar bear on LSD....I'd imagine you wouldn't want to try to wrestle with him.

TiP54TiP54New Member
Jun 11, 2009, 10:38 AM

"BIG E wrote:

Brocks a world class wrestler who happens to be as strong as a polar bear on LSD....I'd imagine you wouldn't want to try to wrestle with him.

Submission game, and wrestling is two different things.
Plus college wrestling and NCAA wrestling is two different things.
I think Fedor has shown that he can submit from any position on the ground.

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jun 11, 2009, 10:55 AM

besides randy was a olympic alternate in greco roman wrestling......look how he did against brock lmao.......brock>>>randy......and brock would have a better chance against fedor

TiP54TiP54New Member
Jun 11, 2009, 10:59 AM

"SICK wrote:

besides randy was a olympic alternate in greco roman wrestling......look how he did against brock lmao.......brock>>>randy......and brock would have a better chance against fedor

I think Randy is too old.
It has been said before, but i think he really is.

and E, what do you exactly mean by "world class wrestling" ?

He won an NCAA tourney 10 years ago, sure.
Have he shown that in his fights?

Against Herring he didin't try to do anything to finish the fight. He pretty much sat on top of the guy, hitting him now and then. Could it be part of his gamelplan? Sure. But uh, definitely not "world class"

Big EBig ENew Member
Jun 11, 2009, 11:12 AM

"Mari0k wrote:

I think Randy is too old.
It has been said before, but i think he really is.

and E, what do you exactly mean by "world class wrestling" ?

He won an NCAA tourney 10 years ago, sure.
Have he shown that in his fights?

Against Herring he didin't try to do anything to finish the fight. He pretty much sat on top of the guy, hitting him now and then. Could it be part of his gamelplan? Sure. But uh, definitely not "world class"

He didn't just win a NCAA Tourney he dominated in college, his complete career record was like 106-5 and this is against competition that a good percentage of go to the olympics, etc. Plus he wrestled at Minnesota meaning he competed in what could be argueably the toughest wrestling (Big Ten) conference in the nation. Penn State and Iowa alone have been powerhouse schools for years and years. The Herring match was before he started working out with Extreme Coutore, now he should have the skills on the ground to dominate anyone. And I want to see the Randy, Fedor match for the simple fact that I am a Randy fan, if he wants the match let the man have the match. He has done enough for this biz and deserves to have his last hurrah so to speak.

TiP54TiP54New Member
Jun 11, 2009, 12:45 PM

"BIG E wrote:

He didn't just win a NCAA Tourney he dominated in college, his complete career record was like 106-5 and this is against competition that a good percentage of go to the olympics, etc. Plus he wrestled at Minnesota meaning he competed in what could be argueably the toughest wrestling (Big Ten) conference in the nation. Penn State and Iowa alone have been powerhouse schools for years and years. The Herring match was before he started working out with Extreme Coutore, now he should have the skills on the ground to dominate anyone. And I want to see the Randy, Fedor match for the simple fact that I am a Randy fan, if he wants the match let the man have the match. He has done enough for this biz and deserves to have his last hurrah so to speak.

E
You make a pint that he wresteld at the toughest division, and had a ridiculois record...before Herring. And he did not with him on the ground. Now he trained for Xtreme for a year, and he will be able to dominate anybody on the ground? I dont see your logic.

Big EBig ENew Member
Jun 11, 2009, 12:55 PM

"Mari0k wrote:

E
You make a pint that he wresteld at the toughest division, and had a ridiculois record...before Herring. And he did not with him on the ground. Now he trained for Xtreme for a year, and he will be able to dominate anybody on the ground? I dont see your logic.

My point is...the dude is a phenom. He's not human. He doesn't need yrs to develop into the best heavyweight in the world, he was almost there before he even developed fighting skills.

TiP54TiP54New Member
Jun 11, 2009, 01:00 PM

"BIG E wrote:

My point is...the dude is a phenom. He's not human. He doesn't need yrs to develop into the best heavyweight in the world, he was almost there before he even developed fighting skills.

Not Human?
Ask Mir, he'll tell you how unhuman he is.
He is BIG and STRONG. He has not shown any techniques yet.
At least not to me.

Nappy RootsNappy Rootsforum_veteran
Jun 11, 2009, 01:07 PM

people are buying this Hype by UFC around Lesnar imo. Fedor would destroy him...i hope to god this news is true and Fedor signs with UFC(hopefully multi fight contract though, which im sure it would be), cuz there would be a true UFC heavyweight champ then..

MuckMuckretired_admin
Jun 13, 2009, 01:10 PM

I root against Brock just because I generally pull for the underdog. But the fact is, he's a physical and athletic freak. A true Planet Theory guy. And as such, he's got an big advantage over pretty everyone he steps in with, right off the bat. He just physically overwhelms. The fact that he became UFC heavyweight champion in his fourth career MMA fight is a testament to the specimen.

THAT SAID, I think Lesnar can and will be beaten. Maybe it's Mir again, maybe someone else. Hell I thought Gonzaga would be a good matchup. I think it will be somebody with a dynamic skill set and a gameplan. Because I can't imagine anybody beating him standing up and trading.

Make the throwback uniforms permanent!

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Jun 13, 2009, 01:25 PM

the thing thats completely scary.....is lesnar will only get more well rounded.....and even better as he trains more and more in a vast majority of techniques.......hes going to be very good for a very long time...