Mort: Philbin and Ireland appear to be safe but there is tension between the two

If we fired them both, we could get our pick of the top GM candidates, Tom Gamble, Marc Ross etc, all these executives who would get to come here and hire their own coach, there's only one GM opening right now and that's in Tampa where they already hired Lovie Smith as coach, and he has final say on personnel written into his contract so that's not much of a desirable job for an executive who dreams of running his own team.

I am speechless, I really am.....The owner is as big of a problem they have along with the GM and the Coaching staff....Expect this is worse because he has the money and most of the say. I hold out hope the Wells report casts them in such a light whereas they have to make a move, but I doubt it. My 2 favorite teams have "reports" that I am waiting on to determine the next move ie Yanks/Phins.

More media speculation, but this is not too hard to fathom. Both Ireland and Philbin might just be in "save my job" mode and that could mean blaming the other party.

If true though, I just cannot understand why Ross would be so adverse to firing people even when the alternative is having such a dysfunctional management.

I wouldn't be opposed to one more year of both and then if things don't pan out next year fire them both and start over. Fact of the matter is Philbin really hasn't done much to get fired and firing Ireland will create an odd dynamo between a new GM and old coach.

"Sumlit wrote:

More media speculation, but this is not too hard to fathom. Both Ireland and Philbin might just be in "save my job" mode and that could mean blaming the other party.

If true though, I just cannot understand why Ross would be so adverse to firing people even when the alternative is having such a dysfunctional management.

To me it's pretty hard to fathom, especially since word has gotten out that the relationship between Ireland and Philbin is quite strained. I don't know how Ross would allow the opportunity for critical dysfunction to fester and grow.

If this is true. Ross really is Dumbo.

He should of fired Ireland when he fired sparano. Ireland needs to go and the new GM should be given full authority to fire Philbin if he does not like what he sees or thinks he can bring in a better HC.

Wayne Huizenga screwed himself with bad hirings and Stephen Ross is right behind him down that same crappy road. Pathetic. A GM who can't choose talent and put together an effective roster and a head coach who is a poor, weak leader of men.

"shula_guy wrote:

He should of fired Ireland when he fired sparano. Ireland needs to go and the new GM should be given full authority to fire Philbin if he does not like what he sees or thinks he can bring in a better HC.

Jeff Millen Ireland could be cheating death for a 3rd straight offseason...it's completely baffling.

What a f****** joke of a franchise we cheer for fellas.
Rainbow and lollipoppers think this is perfect though, right?
Nothing wrong here.
Oh, and FinD just thinks this more mindless media talk. Because NOBODY on TV or Radio or in the papers has a clue. They all just make stuff up.

I prefer to let Jeff go, retain Joe Philbin.

My second preference would be to fire them all and start over.

The last thing I want is another lame duck season with drama internally. (This will likely happen)

Stephen Ross is a very stupid man when it comes to football.

"LBsFinest wrote:

What a joke.

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ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported on Sunday Countdown that Dolphins coach Joe Philbin and GM Jeff Ireland "appear to be safe," but there is "tension" between the two.
It's likely creating an awkward dynamic at Fins headquarters. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reported in late December that "no one in Miami is safe," but owner Stephen Ross has made no moves since. The Dolphins signed Ireland to a head-scratching contract extension before the 2013 season, which was likely fully guaranteed. Ross is believed to be pushing for Philbin to fire offensive assistants, including coordinator Mike Sherman.

And this what we knew back on Thursday, when Ross flew in to "evaluate" the principles....nothing new or exciting here folks...

"Larryfinfan wrote:

And this what we knew back on Thursday, when Ross flew in to "evaluate" the principles....nothing new or exciting here folks...

Yup. And he walked into Dolphin Headquaters, looked Ireland and Philbin in the eyes and said;

"Hell of job this season gentlemen. Keep up the excellent work. I don't give a damn if we shat the bed in Weeks 16 and 17, nothing we could do. 8-8 is nothing to be ashamed of. Keep your heads up and keep trying your hardest. That is all I can ask. I mean, what else am I supposed to do?"

Guys.....while I cant say I know for sure.....Ross is a VERY good business man. Hes not inept when it comes to hiring and firing people. Your going to hear so many different things in the media....because their are a great many agendas at play here.

"PSG wrote:

What a f****** joke of a franchise we cheer for fellas.
Rainbow and lollipoppers think this is perfect though, right?
Nothing wrong here.
Oh, and FinD just thinks this more mindless media talk. Because NOBODY on TV or Radio or in the papers has a clue. They all just make stuff up.

Well, doesn't reporting week old news, by a "national media insider" indicate "more mindless media talk" ? What's wrong is that too many fans just want Ross to fire everyone and start anew, but is that just a gut reaction or the right thing to do? I don't have a problem with him taking his time, and trying to make a more rational decision, even tho I may not agree with that decision.... I'm not opposed to hitting the reset button, nor am I opposed to minor adjustments and keeping basic status quo. The waiting is the hard part...if he's looking into replacements already, great. If he's still trying to figure out what he wants to do, that's ok too...but we, the fans, are still in a holding pattern, due to the "mindless media talk"...

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Well, doesn't reporting week old news, by a "national media insider" indicate "more mindless media talk" ? What's wrong is that too many fans just want Ross to fire everyone and start anew, but is that just a gut reaction or the right thing to do? I don't have a problem with him taking his time, and trying to make a more rational decision, even tho I may not agree with that decision.... I'm not opposed to hitting the reset button, nor am I opposed to minor adjustments and keeping basic status quo. The waiting is the hard part...if he's looking into replacements already, great. If he's still trying to figure out what he wants to do, that's ok too...but we, the fans, are still in a holding pattern, due to the "mindless media talk"...

Fair enough. We just have a difference of opinion. There is no way I will ever be convinced that keeping Jeff Ireland as GM of this the football team is the right thing to do.
I will listen to the argument about keeping Philbin. But I'd be inclined to let the new GM decide that.

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Well, doesn't reporting week old news, by a "national media insider" indicate "more mindless media talk" ? What's wrong is that too many fans just want Ross to fire everyone and start anew, but is that just a gut reaction or the right thing to do? I don't have a problem with him taking his time, and trying to make a more rational decision, even tho I may not agree with that decision.... I'm not opposed to hitting the reset button, nor am I opposed to minor adjustments and keeping basic status quo. The waiting is the hard part...if he's looking into replacements already, great. If he's still trying to figure out what he wants to do, that's ok too...but we, the fans, are still in a holding pattern, due to the "mindless media talk"...

Also, it does appear to be somewhat new news, if accurate.
The reports says both Ireland and Philbin are safe. Suggesting Ross indeed has made up his mind to sit on his ass and stick his fingers in his ears and say "lalala...I can't hear you...lalala

"vt_dolfan wrote:

Guys.....while I cant say I know for sure.....Ross is a VERY good business man. Hes not inept when it comes to hiring and firing people. Your going to hear so many different things in the media....because their are a great many agendas at play here.

And Wayne Huizenga was not a very good business man? The results speak for themselves.

Ross should have fired Ireland years ago. Why he didn't move on from the Parcells debacle completely after that fat ******* padded his retirement plans while destroying this franchise is beyond me. Its time to move on.

"PSG wrote:

What a f****** joke of a franchise we cheer for fellas.
Rainbow and lollipoppers think this is perfect though, right?
Nothing wrong here.
Oh, and FinD just thinks this more mindless media talk. Because NOBODY on TV or Radio or in the papers has a clue. They all just make stuff up.

Someone needs a diaper change.

Look, don't believe me. Go back and read all the stuff that wasn't true the past few years about Manning, Fisher, Harbaugh, Cowher, Gruden, Flynn, McCoy, Jennings, Philbin, the Stark's Finger, the Cogs & Martin issue, the locker room coup, all the reports that we were gonna hear something Monday, then Tuesday, then Wednesday, then Thursday, then Friday, etc. It is a never ending stream of bad reports, speculation & agenda driven "facts".

Believe the BS if you want to, just know you were given the option not too.

"PSG wrote:

Also, it does appear to be somewhat new news, if accurate.
The reports says both Ireland and Philbin are safe. Suggesting Ross indeed has made up his mind to sit on his ass and stick his fingers in his ears and say "lalala...I can't hear you...lalala

Maybe, but it's the same things we heard early in Dec. that Ireland was safe. And several reports on Thurs and Fri were that it's likely that JI and JP are safe....it's a rehash of what we 'figured' a week ago.... Look the last factual information we got was from a JI direct quote on Friday, "No decision" was all he had to say... No decision means he's still mulling it around... I want this to be over, no matter the outcome, just as badly as you or anyone else, but at this time... no decision has been made... Thats all Mort said...

And as to keeping JI, I'm not convinced either yet, even tho I've supported Ireland to date...the fact is, Ross, again unless something is not public yet, is supporting him. If he decides that, then we have to live with it...I don't know for sure, but even tho we agree or don't agree, neither will be switching our support to another team anytime soon....that being the likely case, let's just get it on and move onto the Senior bowl...

What a complete and total joke. I hate this team so much. I'll always be a Dolphins fan but what Parcells and Ireland turned this team into I hate with a fiery passion. Do any of you really think a successful 2014 season will be possible if this type of dysfunction is retained and allowed to fester? It will be 2011 all over again.

Parcells/Ireland is the worst thing that ever happened to this franchise.

"Fin D wrote:

Someone needs a diaper change.

Look, don't believe me. Go back and read all the stuff that wasn't true the past few years about Manning, Fisher, Harbaugh, Cowher, Gruden, Flynn, McCoy, Jennings, Philbin, the Stark's Finger, the Cogs & Martin issue, the locker room coup, all the reports that we were gonna hear something Monday, then Tuesday, then Wednesday, then Thursday, then Friday, etc. It is a never ending stream of bad reports, speculation & agenda driven "facts".

Believe the BS if you want to, just know you were given the option not too.

Every single thing reported about this team isn't true, obviously, but there is enough smoke to suspect a fire. You don't always get admissions of guilt or smoking guns or photo evidence, sometimes you just need to read between the lines. Something is wrong with this franchise and if you don't see that I don't know what to say.