Mr. Ross..Do the right thing...Ethically.

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djphinfandjphinfansubscriberOP
Oct 28, 2011, 01:22 AM

And keep Sparano til the end of the season, don't let some fans get to you in this situation, you said things this offseason to Sparano that will make you look like liar if you let him go at any point this season..Keep the man, let him coach the team til the end, shake his hand, and let him go..You will gain respect amongst football people and coaches around the league, you need to let it play out to repair your image, and no matter what people think of Sparano, give him his dignity, he deserves that much.

cdz12250cdz12250subscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 01:33 AM

He has dignity. You heard his presser. You can't give him what he already has. He's a good man who for any number of reasons could not get the job done. Replacing him is not capital punishment. It's a business decision. I'm betting that Ross lets him finish the season, if for no other reason because there's no viable better alternative until the season ends.

ClipseClipseNew Member
Oct 28, 2011, 01:50 AM

Ross knows Sparano is the best chance for Luck. He's not firing him.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 01:53 AM

"cdz12250 wrote:

He has dignity. You heard his presser. You can't give him what he already has. He's a good man who for any number of reasons could not get the job done. Replacing him is not capital punishment. It's a business decision. I'm betting that Ross lets him finish the season, if for no other reason because there's no viable better alternative until the season ends.

you keep him here cause it's the right thing to do..

MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
Oct 28, 2011, 06:10 AM

He's 0-6. He deserves NOTHING. He's lucky to have the golden parachute he earned after the botched Harbaugh attempt last year.

That being said, I agree about keeping him. Just for different reasons. He's good at sucking.

cdz12250cdz12250subscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 07:42 AM

"djphinfan wrote:

you keep him here cause it's the right thing to do..

You give Ross too much credit.

PhinishLinePhinishLinesubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 08:00 AM

I don't think this has anything to do with "ethics" per se. Firing a poor performing employee sooner rather than later isn't an unethical decision. Just as players are cut before their contracts are up, I'd think coaches are subject to the same. While keeping Sparano may be the "noble" thing to do.....there aren't too many billionaires and millionaires who got where they are in this world by being "noble". In most cases its downright the opposite.

In fact, I'm so sick of being noble that I think its held the organization back. All we draft is boy scouts, team leaders, internatioanl thespians and upstanding citizens. It doesn't translate into catching the ball. We drafted entire families of nobility and they didn't pan out. We drafted the seed of Brigham Young, he didn't work out. We drafted a standup QB out of Michigan, didn't get us anywhere. Lets just draft the best damn ballplayer already.

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cdz12250cdz12250subscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 08:16 AM

There are no thespians on this team. They're all straight men.

schmoliootschmoliootsubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 08:19 AM

Many would say the ethical thing to do would be to fire Sparano now, to stop the charade and let him leave with some sanity remaining

LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 08:25 AM

I don't think it's as simple as just keeping Sparano on because 'it's the right thing to do'. At this point, Sparano somehow still has the players. If the time comes that he loses the locker room, then Ross has to consider letting him go. The real issue is that while Nolan probably has the most experience to act as interim HC on the staff, his unit is under-performing even worse than the Offense at this point and that's without our #1 QB... It's quite a quandary that Ross is in. He promised to keep the guy on, but things have gone about as badly as they can go. However, Ross is the reason for this whole situation with his jaunt to California last January...

I feel for TS the man because losing your job, even in the pro ranks is never a fun thing but something may have to be done before the season ends...

MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
Oct 28, 2011, 08:32 AM

"Larryfinfan wrote:

I don't think it's as simple as just keeping Sparano on because 'it's the right thing to do'. At this point, Sparano somehow still has the players. If the time comes that he loses the locker room, then Ross has to consider letting him go. The real issue is that while Nolan probably has the most experience to act as interim HC on the staff, his unit is under-performing even worse than the Offense at this point and that's without our #1 QB... It's quite a quandary that Ross is in. He promised to keep the guy on, but things have gone about as badly as they can go. However, Ross is the reason for this whole situation with his jaunt to California last January...

I feel for TS the man because losing your job, even in the pro ranks is never a fun thing but something may have to be done before the season ends...

I don't really think he does. Players just tend to be a little shy about slamming current coaches. It's not good for their career.

KB21KB21subscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 08:34 AM

If Miami goes with an interim guy, then it should be Todd Bowles, IMO.

The thing is, despite what some want to think, Tony has not lost this locker room yet. It may come, but the players do enjoy playing for him. It's Jeff Ireland who the players hate.

KB21KB21subscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 08:35 AM

"MonstBlitz wrote:

I don't really think he does. Players just tend to be a little shy about slamming current coaches. It's not good for their career.

That's not true. See Denver with Josh McDaniels and Miami in 2007 with Cam Cameron. Jason Taylor and Joey Porter openly criticized Cam when he was the head coach.

BumrushBumrushsubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 08:37 AM

The ethical thing would be to fire Sparano right now. He looks like a wounded duck. Guy needs to be put out of his misery.

DJ- you know I love ya, but do we really need another thread about this?

Tin IndianTin Indianforum_veteran
Oct 28, 2011, 08:42 AM

Nothing to do with dignity at this point. The real matter is there is noone on this staff you could replace him with.

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MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
Oct 28, 2011, 08:54 AM

"KB21 wrote:

That's not true. See Denver with Josh McDaniels and Miami in 2007 with Cam Cameron. Jason Taylor and Joey Porter openly criticized Cam when he was the head coach.

And what happened to JT the next year? Shipped off to Washington. Ricky openly criticized Sparano at the end of last season and was not brought back. The players aren't going to say anything. They gave up on him last year, and they're playing terrible for him this year. This illusion that they all still love Tony Sparano and buy into his bull**** is just that. An illusion.

DisgustipateDisgustipatesubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 08:57 AM

Ethically, that's not even remotely close to the right decision. The worse this franchise does the more people completely unrelated to the actual on the field product within the organization will be fired.

LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 10:45 AM

"MonstBlitz wrote:

I don't really think he does. Players just tend to be a little shy about slamming current coaches. It's not good for their career.

I disagree, even tho they certainly aren't making plays, they are still playing hard in the games. It just doesn't see to be to that point, yet...it likely will progress as we get farther into the season, but right now...I don't see that...

LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 10:47 AM

Now if you ask me if the fans have lost this regime...that's a given... And that may lead some to believe that the players no longer are playing at their best...even if it's just that they aren't playing well or playing the schemes well...

Larry LittleLarry Littlesubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 11:51 AM

It's a tough thing to put Sparano, the fans, and the team through this for an entire season. I think Ross has to do something. Either make an announcement that Sparano will finish this season, regardless of what happens, or let him go... gracefully. Perhaps Ross made a deal with him, and he will officially let him go when a winning season is mathematically out of reach. No one really knows but Ross and Sparano.

However, I do want to say that I have a lot of respect for Sparano the man. The way some people are talking about him is just plain s**tty, IMHO. He came up short as a winning head coach, but the guy has done nothing less than given this team his best.

The thing you have to remember about critics is that they can't do it themselves. - John Cleese

PaganPaganforum_veteran
Oct 28, 2011, 01:24 PM

"Larryfinfan wrote:

I feel for TS the man because losing your job, even in the pro ranks is never a fun thing but something may have to be done before the season ends...

Just to remind people, this is his house:



Maybe I'm a dick, but I don't feel sorry for him one bit.

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djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 01:42 PM

"Bumrush wrote:

The ethical thing would be to fire Sparano right now. He looks like a wounded duck. Guy needs to be put out of his misery.

DJ- you know I love ya, but do we really need another thread about this?

Rush, this owner has ruined his image in NFL circles, if he were to fire this coach midseason, after the verbal committment he gave him this offseason, it could get even worse, and really might have an impact on who comes here next..Seeing that the season is over, you might as well show NFL people that at least you let the man coach out the season..It will go a long way in those NFL circles, and lord knows he needs that..

Its as simple as that.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 01:45 PM

"Disgustipate wrote:

Ethically, that's not even remotely close to the right decision. The worse this franchise does the more people completely unrelated to the actual on the field product within the organization will be fired.

whatta you mean?

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 01:52 PM

"PhinishLine wrote:

I don't think this has anything to do with "ethics" per se. Firing a poor performing employee sooner rather than later isn't an unethical decision. Just as players are cut before their contracts are up, I'd think coaches are subject to the same. While keeping Sparano may be the "noble" thing to do.....there aren't too many billionaires and millionaires who got where they are in this world by being "noble". In most cases its downright the opposite.

In fact, I'm so sick of being noble that I think its held the organization back. All we draft is boy scouts, team leaders, internatioanl thespians and upstanding citizens. It doesn't translate into catching the ball. We drafted entire families of nobility and they didn't pan out. We drafted the seed of Brigham Young, he didn't work out. We drafted a standup QB out of Michigan, didn't get us anywhere. Lets just draft the best damn ballplayer already.

I think you have to keep him, for a couple of important reasons. 1, because of what went down last season and the words that came out of your mouth in negotiations with the lame duck coach, the right thing to do is give him the season, then fire after, you don't want to take that PR hit with real NFL people, so you sacrifice what you believe to be right at the moment, to show that he as a new owner in the league, is at least a man of your word, and when the season is done, and Sparano failed big time, everyone will now understand the firing, and there will be no backlash.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Oct 28, 2011, 01:56 PM

"Larry Little wrote:

It's a tough thing to put Sparano, the fans, and the team through this for an entire season. I think Ross has to do something. Either make an announcement that Sparano will finish this season, regardless of what happens, or let him go... gracefully. Perhaps Ross made a deal with him, and he will officially let him go when a winning season is mathematically out of reach. No one really knows but Ross and Sparano.

However, I do want to say that I have a lot of respect for Sparano the man. The way some people are talking about him is just plain s**tty, IMHO. He came up short as a winning head coach, but the guy has done nothing less than given this team his best.

I agree that the owner should stand up and say something..Squash all the BS gossip that is out there, establish some ethical behavior and organizational leadership, and you can do that by standing by your word..His image being repaired is much more important for our future than a meaningless midseason firing.

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