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My Dolphins 08 Mock by Bill Parcells

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by grushcow, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. grushcow

    grushcow New Member

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    1. Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio St.* - Seems crazy now but he'll shoot up draft boards, the bigger better version of Parcell's Demarcus Ware.

    2a. Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma* - 355 lbs says it all, Bill loves big beefy guys on the line and gets the top guard here.

    2b. Frank Okam, NT, Texas - He didn't draft Soliai and the centerpiece of a great run defense is the man plugging up the middle.

    3. Ezra Butler, LB, Nevada - Perfect fit for Parcells ILB types. at 247 lbs is a converted 290 pound nosetackle who already plays in a 3-4

    4. Dwight Lowery, CB, San Jose St. - an absolute ball hawk. (if not available Jonathon Zenon, LSU)

    6. Brad Cottam, TE, Tennessee - 6-8 big frame, similar in size to past TEs taken by parcells.

    7. Xavier Oman, RB, NW Missouri St. - a bruiser, parcells favorite type of back, call him a marion barber from a small school.
     
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  2. billsfaninpeace

    billsfaninpeace New Member

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    And if the GM wants Ryan instead of Gholston looks like Ryan
     
  3. namor

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    I like that draft...I really,really like that draft..especially if we can trade down ,1 or 2 spots
    and get Vernon and another pick...I'd just not sure about Vernon with the #1 overall pick.
    But I really like that draft,,good job.
     
  4. grushcow

    grushcow New Member

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    i hope thats a joke....but if your a bills fan i see where that is coming from:glare:
     
  5. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    i agree with the gholston pick. Hes gonna run a sick 40 time and put up a large bench number at the combine, he'll turn the draft order upside down. He's this years Mario Williams.
     
  6. billsfaninpeace

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    It kinda is. But all I am saying is all these people saying Bill will draft like this.

    He has stated he will let the GM do his job and not over rule him.

    So if your GM like another player Bill will not step in and say no take this guy (well at least what he said anyway)
     
  7. RollieGotFingered

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    Right. I'm sure Bill won't step in and say I'm your boss and you're taking this guy.

    You're really grasping for straws here.
     
  8. Dominizzo

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    Im ok with it!! I like Okam!! Hmmmm No CB mabey we will get Trufant
     
  9. billsfaninpeace

    billsfaninpeace New Member

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    Nope taking the man at his word, from his interview on ESPN
     
  10. Danny

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    Dude, have you been hanging out with Ricky? Okam late in the 2nd and Lowery in the 4th? I think you're dreaming big time....Lowery's a 2nd round pick at worst and Okam goes no later than very early 2nd.....If we take a DE at one is gonna be Chris Long so sorry but I don't agree with that mock happening.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  11. grushcow

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    i disagree. huizenga said that all final personal decisions go through bill and bill says that he wants to have an active role in the franchise.
     
  12. billsfaninpeace

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    And in Bills ESPN interview he said all personnel decisions will be at the GM with not being over-ruled by him.

    So is he a man of his word?
     
  13. RollieGotFingered

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    Did you listen to his sentence two seconds later regarding the #1 pick. "WE will take the best player for the Miami Dolphins." Or when he was discussing the number one quality he will look for in a player. "If a guy isn't passionate about football, I'm not going to be interested in him."

    What do you think? Huizenga is paying Parcells nearly $4 mil a year for empty title? Or that a huge egomaniac like Parcells would put his name on the line for an empty title? Give it up, kid.
     
  14. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    he HAS to say that. If he says that he's going to do the GMs job for him, then he might as well not have a GM. the GMs job will be to do all the grunt work that Bill doesnt want to do, like paper work, scouting FA's, scouting draft prospects, etc.

    Also, in the reverse sitaution, don't you think the GM himself is going to report to Bill before making moves? I mean Bill can just fire the GM if he makes a bad move, it would just be nonsensical for the GM to move about without Bills approval.
     
  15. grushcow

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    i wish blazing with ricky would be a dream haha. seriously though okam probably is unlikely but with the like of balmer and moore moving up past him on boards hes only about the 5th DT on my board so he could fall. also with such a deep CB class its very plausible to get lowery if not zenon is a good concelation prize as he is a ball hawk to.
     
  16. grushcow

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    heres somebody who knows what hes talking about. if parcells came out and just said the GM wasn't going to have any say hed be coming on pretty strong.
     
  17. CitizenSnips

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    I could see Okam slip alittle.

    All for Zenon. In fact, i kind of want an all LSU draft.

    1. Dorsey.
    2A. Doucet
    2B. Highsmith

    hey, a man can dream.
     
  18. Motion

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    I'd be pretty disappointed with that draft. No offense. I don't think Gholston is worth the #1, not even top 5 IMO. A good showing in the NC game could help but he would have to takeover the game to move up that high. I don't think Okam or Lowery will drop that far either. I'm hoping for a much better TE prospect as well.
     
  19. tylerdolphin

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    So nobody thinks we need a WR? IMO thats a big need in this draft. Marty Booker is old and on the last legs of his career, Hagan is the most inconsistent player in NFL history and although it looks like Ginn has talent, we don't really know for sure yet.

    If Beck is to ever succeed (also a ?), we need to surround him with at least decent WRs. Im not a big college fan so im not sure who the WRs are this year and where they are projected to go, I just know we need one.
     
  20. Big E

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    Thne first pick seems to be a bit of a reach...the rest of it doesnt seem that bad. And he may not of drafted Soliai but he's still a beast.
     
  21. grushcow

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    WR is not a need in the draft, we have to aquire a WR via free agency because the wide recievers beyond the first round in this draft are very unlikely to become better then #3 recievers in the NFL (although you never know), I like Hagan personally and Cottam is a strong player.
     
  22. #1dolphinsfan

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    I would rather have Dorsey or Chris Long rather then vernon
     
  23. Swampfox

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    I like Chris Long.

    A young QB needs a vetran wr . Remember how Harrington and all his rookie receivers looked? Not good
     
  24. ChambersWI

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    Highsmith will not be drafted by us since Parcells likes big LBs.

    Anyways, I don't hate the draft, but I think we could do better. I do think Gholston will be in the mix for the number 1 pick, and I do think Okam and Lowery could fall to those spots (especially Okam since texas players tend to fall farther than they should), but for some reason I'm not feeling the entire draft.
     
  25. VanDolPhan

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    I think Chris Long is definitely the pick unless the draft boards change significantly from now and then. He's a high character football life guy who is a significant piece for a 3-4 (can literally take over Jason Taylor's spot and drop into coverage).
     
  26. fishyanks

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    I am just so happy that we finally have a guy with a brain controlling this team. Bill won't F our 1st round pick up.
     
  27. #1DoLfAnOKesh

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    sounds good...we need some big guys
     
  28. phinfanuk

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    I was under the impression Chris Long is specifically a 3-4 defensive end, not the kind of guy you can ask to drop back into coverage and play stood up. Anyone care to set me straight?
     
  29. ChambersWI

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    depends. He can definatly play 3-4 DE since that's what he's done in college, and many feel he has the speed to play 4-3 DE. Some scouts have even said he could drop weight and become a pro bowl caliber MLB. Bottom line: Chris Long is a football player and will succeed in the league because he wants to win
     
  30. MelbournePhin

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    gonna be cool to see tuna in the draft "war room"
     
  31. RoninFin4

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    I thought that as well. Gholston or Derrick Harvey seem to be more like the guys that can play that pass-rushing OLB spot in the 3-4 a la DeMarcus Ware. I haven't seen long play that much, but in what little I have seen, he's strictly been a 3-4 DE.
     
  32. Jets81

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    And that your mistake...
     
  33. VanDolPhan

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    You'll see. He's perfect to fill at 3-4 end and then shift outside on the 4-3 with enough ability to drop back in shallow coverages in both situations.

    ie: Don't be surprised if he was added that the team would send in Porter and someone else in a blitz from a 3-4 and have Long drop back in coverage sometimes.
     
  34. sweeper

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    dude give me info on this dude, ive spent hrs serachign but yet i can't find ne statistics on him. I have heard his name a lot and seen of his name on other forums but nac' find stats, size, weight, speed etc etc. woudl he play OLB?
     
  35. grushcow

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    try NFL Draft Scout and look under 2009 Prospects. You might get some info there.
     
  36. RoninFin4

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  37. s55ean

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    chris long is not worth a high pick, hell no. gholston would be . simple reason ?

    it's very hard to find guys that are 6"4 260 pounds, run a 4,5 4,6 suposedly and are incredibly agile and strong....

    guys that plug up holes and get penetration ( DEs in a 34) are easier to find in later rounds and they do not provide an impact like physical freaks do (ie gholston)
     
  38. VanDolPhan

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    Yah if you want strictly a 3-4 end. If you want a special 3-4 end your going with Long early. He'd instantly replace Kevin Carter's spot, improve the run defense and actually bring some pressure from the line that isn't named Jason.

    Ghoulston is a name right now. I don't buy that he'll get into the top 5 based on 34 tackles.
     
  39. phinfanuk

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    I still wouldn't rule out Calais Campbell, we'll see how he does at the combine. People forget that he is a physical freak as well. Glenn Dorsey needs to be our biggest target IMO, someone who we can build this defense around.
     
  40. Roman529

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    I think the Tuna will definitely draft bigger players, BUT, I also think we could add a QB or a WR on the first day.
     

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