My Personal Nomination for POST OF THE YEAR

Disagree with it 100%. Sad.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-ratings-up-3-week-3-compared-2016/703334001/

 

Maybe they should bring the pofo back.

Deleting it has not stopped the discussion from being had, it only spread it into what were once politics-free sanctuaries.

 

Why do you disagree 100% with it? ..... and why the hell would you throw in the "sad" comment?

For me, I'm a bit torn.
Experts have placed the odds of this country encountering a civil war over the next 10-15 years at 35% on the average. The recent Presidents and the powers behind mainstream media have done a fantastic job of methodically creating a narrative that promotes racial tension by pitting blacks against whites and vice versa. I don't know the precise "why" (although there are motives out there), but I do know the "what", and that's that they want us divided. Hence, I understand the need to unify us before it's too late. For that reason alone I can appreciate what the players are trying to accomplish (not that they're preemptively protesting to avoid a future civil war, but their cause is close enough).



However, I agree with Rev's premise, and I very much empathize with all the soldiers and vets who are royally ticked off by this, as I know firsthand and quite well how much the exposure to war can damage an individual and his/her family. My father fought for that flag that you appear to be ho-hum about. In fact I have that folded up triangle with 2 Purple Hearts pinned to it, encased, and sitting on a shelf in my bedroom. It's basically the only thing of value or sentimentality I have to remember him by, as 100% disability, severe PTSD, and its related alcoholism & drug addiction took the rest. With that said, your "sad" comment comes across as insensitive toward those who've put their lives on the line for that flag and for your freedom. The only thing sad here is your level of callousness.

 

it is sad that you think that.

 

Sorry you feel that way. Maybe one day I'll become insensitive too.

 

You took what I said and created your own narrative. Why even explain myself when I know you won't even listen. Maybe one day I will be as judgemental and close minded.

 

And that is sad.

But that is what people do. Take other people's actions, do not listen to them, and create their own narrative, then dole out justice.

 

Maybe that's bc you yourself didn't bother to create any explaining or narrative whatsoever from the get go, but rather just a short, seemingly insensitive "disagree 100%. Sad". Now, had you explained your seemingly controversial comment to a long, thought out, emotional post by Rev, a highly respected individual here, then maybe the responses to you might have been different.

 

Way to take zero responsibility.

 

Do not listen to them?? What do their cause and beliefs have to do with anything that Rev mentioned? ....unless you'd like to try and convince us that, of all the options and avenues in this country with which to express oneself, repudiating the flag and our veterans was the only option available to Karpernick and then those who followed.

 

It's infected the lounge now.

 

I do listen to them.

It has everything to do, if you listen to them.

Instead you want to create your own narrative. Your own story. Then in this thread you want to blame me for it.

 

If a person voted for Trump then they do not get to talk about respect for the veterans or the flag. He dodged the draft, insulted all POWs and attacked a gold star family. If doing that means a person thinks he's fit to be the Commander in Chief of the military he literally crapped all over, then that person doesn't get to whine about kneeling for the anthem or lecture anyone about respect.

Sorry.

 

I did listen to them, but that doesn't change the fact that they could've gone about it more productively. Witnessing the players standing, locked in arms with law enforcement, owners, etc as a show of unity is infinitely more effective than confrontationally kneeling during the Anthem. Standing locked in arms during the Anthem is unifying; kneeling is divisive. The answer to creating a peaceful unified society isn't to divide the people by pissing off much of the Veterans, soldiers, their family and friends, and other patriotic people who love this country, flaws and all. I mean c'mon, the Arizona stadium BOOED Monday night when the players took a quick knee prior to the Anthem.

With that said, exactly what are the players accomplishing by driving much of society to tune them out? Who exactly is the players' target audience BTW?.... bc that's an important tidbit right there. If that audience overlaps any with the mass of individuals they're currently pissing off, then clearly Kaepernick chose a flawed plan. Essentially the majority of the people who are connecting with this protest are the ones who were already on board with it or were in agreement with it to begin with. IDK, I just don't think the answer to racial tension is to heighten tension even further.

Productive way:


Divisive way:


Kaepernick's selfish thoughtless action, followed by the steam it's gained, will probably do more to create a civil war than unify us. He'll end up being the answer to a high school History question 50 years from now- "Who was the professional athlete who helped instigate the 2nd U.S. Civil War?"

 

So did Hilary's husband, genius.

I refused to vote for either of those 2 dipsh*ts so you're definitely not talking to me.

 

Don't know why you're attacking me, I clearly specified who my comments were too, if you don't fall into that category then no need to act like that towards me, now is there?