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My Personal Nomination for POST OF THE YEAR

Discussion in 'Out of Bounds' started by CashInFist, Sep 27, 2017.

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  1. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    From our own dear long time friend @RevRick.

    Please like His Thread to confirm (you can't comment on it anymore - or mine - please don't - Just "Like" @RevRick 's thread):
    https://thephins.com/threads/gentlemen-ladies-i-may-not-be-here-for-a-while.91907/

    Not because of anyone here, to be sure. But, I was on the Steelers board following the debacle there with Villenueva. After reading the story and the notice posted by their leader, the younger Rooney, I knew I had to express my feelings. So I posted the following:


    "The so called "protestors" who fail to stand when the national anthem is played need to go read the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution, and then study U.S. History. It has never been the government's place to legislate what people believe. There are those people who will never believe in racial equality in the nation on all sides of the racial divides, usually thinking their particular DNA is the best and the rest of humanity are secondary creatures. There is no legislation which will change such minds.

    But, the United States, as constituted, stands for the rights of all people. That is the way the country was formed. If those who are willing to act about racial equality wish to do something about the continuing existence of the problem - then do something. But do NOT besmirch the very emblem of the nation which grants them the right to work to change things for the people of the country. In other nations, they would be rounded up and sent to the Gulag, the Death Camps, the work farms, or be shot, or just disappear in the night for simply being in the same place as those protesting.

    It is the protection of that for which OUR flag stands which gives them the right to protest what they feel is discriminatory and unjust. To protest by decrying the legitimate symbol of the very country constituted with that right is asinine, immature, ill-educated and self-serving attention garnering of the first degree.

    They ought to be saluting the flag, just as patriots who served, fought, and died to invest the citizens with and to protect those very rights under which they sit, kneel or hide have done for over two hundred years. It is that devotion to the cause, birth, and continued existence of the nation for which that flag stands which grants them the right to betray, besmirch, and denigrate that very symbol about which they protest. Those under-educated privileged children with the bodies of men ought to realize that they are the beneficiaries of all the concepts and ideals for which that flag stands when they besmirch it by kneeling. They deny the integrity of the symbol of the ideals upon which this country was founded, which gives them that right when they so do. It is their right, but it betrays their lack of perspicacity concerning the founding of this nation.

    I have decided that as much as I love watching the NFL, as long as players do not stand for the flag of the nation which protects their rights, I will no longer support them with my time or finances. When those overgrown children start acting as if they could be adults, that might change. But for now, this is one veteran and citizen who will not help pay their engorged and luridly immense salaries through the complicated process of the games being played sponsored by products which we are to purchase to enable the league to pay those salaries to play a childhood game with more violence than sportsmanship."


    I will keep checking in with this board, because a good number of you I consider friends. I realize that because of what I posted above, that could possibly change with some. But, until things are more in keeping with the fundamental concepts under which we, in this country, all live, as a veteran, and citizen this is where I must stand. I ask nothing of any of you save that you continue to regard me as one of this band.
     
  2. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree I drink your milkshake! Club Member

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    Disagree with it 100%. Sad.
     
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  3. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    That didn't take long, did it?:

    NFL Searching For Crisis Communications Assistant After Trump Savages League

    The National Football League (NFL) is searching for a crisis communications assistant just one day after President Donald Trump’s criticized the league, according to a job posting.

    The NFL is hiring a senior communications strategist for its New York City location, a job posted Monday shows. The position requirements include providing crisis communications counsel to leagues executives. The posting comes as Trump continually blasts the NFL and many of its players who have been protesting the national anthem.

    “They will work closely with communications department leadership to create messaging to reflect the league’s wide variety of priorities and expedite organizational decision-making,” the job listing reads.

    Ratings for the NFL’s Sunday Night Football dropped after Trump’s initial criticism, making the need for a crisis communication assistant timely. Many NFL players are kneeling or staying in their locker rooms in protest during the national anthem, following Trump’s statement that players who do so should be fired. (RELATED: NFL Sunday Night Ratings Say A Lot About How Americans Feel About Anthem Protests)

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/26/n...nications-assistant-after-trump-savages-them/
     
  4. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree I drink your milkshake! Club Member

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  5. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they should bring the pofo back.

    Deleting it has not stopped the discussion from being had, it only spread it into what were once politics-free sanctuaries.
     
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  7. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Very perceptive. There has to be an outlet other than "GO to a Political Message Board". That's an illogical response. WE want to talk about these issues with other Miami Dolphins fans, not some "Left or Right Wing" Propaganda Machine, like 100% of Political Message Boards. There must be an outlet here.
     
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  8. ToddPhin

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    Why do you disagree 100% with it? ..... and why the hell would you throw in the "sad" comment?

    For me, I'm a bit torn.
    Experts have placed the odds of this country encountering a civil war over the next 10-15 years at 35% on the average. The recent Presidents and the powers behind mainstream media have done a fantastic job of methodically creating a narrative that promotes racial tension by pitting blacks against whites and vice versa. I don't know the precise "why" (although there are motives out there), but I do know the "what", and that's that they want us divided. Hence, I understand the need to unify us before it's too late. For that reason alone I can appreciate what the players are trying to accomplish (not that they're preemptively protesting to avoid a future civil war, but their cause is close enough).



    However, I agree with Rev's premise, and I very much empathize with all the soldiers and vets who are royally ticked off by this, as I know firsthand and quite well how much the exposure to war can damage an individual and his/her family. My father fought for that flag that you appear to be ho-hum about. In fact I have that folded up triangle with 2 Purple Hearts pinned to it, encased, and sitting on a shelf in my bedroom. It's basically the only thing of value or sentimentality I have to remember him by, as 100% disability, severe PTSD, and its related alcoholism & drug addiction took the rest. With that said, your "sad" comment comes across as insensitive toward those who've put their lives on the line for that flag and for your freedom. The only thing sad here is your level of callousness.
     
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  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree I drink your milkshake! Club Member

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    it is sad that you think that.
     
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  10. ToddPhin

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    Sorry you feel that way. Maybe one day I'll become insensitive too.
     
  11. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    He ain't the only one, there are MILLIONS of NFL fans pissed off right now:

     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree I drink your milkshake! Club Member

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    You took what I said and created your own narrative. Why even explain myself when I know you won't even listen. Maybe one day I will be as judgemental and close minded.
     
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  13. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    And that is sad.

    But that is what people do. Take other people's actions, do not listen to them, and create their own narrative, then dole out justice.
     
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  14. ToddPhin

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    Maybe that's bc you yourself didn't bother to create any explaining or narrative whatsoever from the get go, but rather just a short, seemingly insensitive "disagree 100%. Sad". Now, had you explained your seemingly controversial comment to a long, thought out, emotional post by Rev, a highly respected individual here, then maybe the responses to you might have been different.
     
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  15. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Way to take zero responsibility.
     
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  16. ToddPhin

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    Do not listen to them?? What do their cause and beliefs have to do with anything that Rev mentioned? ....unless you'd like to try and convince us that, of all the options and avenues in this country with which to express oneself, repudiating the flag and our veterans was the only option available to Karpernick and then those who followed.
     
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  17. aesop

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    It's infected the lounge now.
     
  18. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree I drink your milkshake! Club Member

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    I do listen to them.

    It has everything to do, if you listen to them.

    Instead you want to create your own narrative. Your own story. Then in this thread you want to blame me for it.
     
  19. Fin D

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    If a person voted for Trump then they do not get to talk about respect for the veterans or the flag. He dodged the draft, insulted all POWs and attacked a gold star family. If doing that means a person thinks he's fit to be the Commander in Chief of the military he literally crapped all over, then that person doesn't get to whine about kneeling for the anthem or lecture anyone about respect.

    Sorry.
     
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  20. ToddPhin

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    I did listen to them, but that doesn't change the fact that they could've gone about it more productively. Witnessing the players standing, locked in arms with law enforcement, owners, etc as a show of unity is infinitely more effective than confrontationally kneeling during the Anthem. Standing locked in arms during the Anthem is unifying; kneeling is divisive. The answer to creating a peaceful unified society isn't to divide the people by pissing off much of the Veterans, soldiers, their family and friends, and other patriotic people who love this country, flaws and all. I mean c'mon, the Arizona stadium BOOED Monday night when the players took a quick knee prior to the Anthem.

    With that said, exactly what are the players accomplishing by driving much of society to tune them out? Who exactly is the players' target audience BTW?.... bc that's an important tidbit right there. If that audience overlaps any with the mass of individuals they're currently pissing off, then clearly Kaepernick chose a flawed plan. Essentially the majority of the people who are connecting with this protest are the ones who were already on board with it or were in agreement with it to begin with. IDK, I just don't think the answer to racial tension is to heighten tension even further.

    Productive way:
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    Divisive way:
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    Kaepernick's selfish thoughtless action, followed by the steam it's gained, will probably do more to create a civil war than unify us. He'll end up being the answer to a high school History question 50 years from now- "Who was the professional athlete who helped instigate the 2nd U.S. Civil War?"
     
  21. ToddPhin

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    So did Hilary's husband, genius.

    I refused to vote for either of those 2 dipsh*ts so you're definitely not talking to me.
     
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  22. Fin D

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    Don't know why you're attacking me, I clearly specified who my comments were too, if you don't fall into that category then no need to act like that towards me, now is there?
     
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