N Suh..would you go for it?

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djphinfandjphinfansubscriberOP
Mar 2, 2015, 06:54 PM

Hes gonna hit the market...

would you make that run and who would you cut to do it?

I wonder if their waiting on signing odrick to see if he wants to be here.

how would it make you feel of the team going into the year with that beast owning the middle of the field..?

one way to beat brady..collaspsing the pocket up the middle, if that dude wants to play 5 more years, then this might be the way to go.

Piston HondaPiston Hondaforum_veteran
Mar 2, 2015, 06:59 PM

Nooooo.

LBLBsFinestNew Member
Mar 2, 2015, 07:02 PM

Of course, but if we sign him let Odrick walk, he ain't THAT much better than Earl Mitchell, get another DT in the draft, we could get an Eddie Goldman in the 2nd or even Carl Davis in the 3rd

Piston HondaPiston Hondaforum_veteran
Mar 2, 2015, 07:05 PM

"LBsFinest wrote:

Of course, but if we sign him let Odrick walk, he ain't THAT much better than Earl Mitchell, get another DT in the draft, we could get an Eddie Goldman in the 2nd or even Carl Davis in the 3rd

Who else you gonna cut to clear the cap space?

LBLBsFinestNew Member
Mar 2, 2015, 07:13 PM

"Piston Honda wrote:

Who else you gonna cut to clear the cap space?

Ellerbe, Wheeler (Jun 1), Starks, and Shelley Smith, that's 13.3 mil saved, 16 mil if you designate Ellerbe a Jun 1 cut too.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Mar 2, 2015, 07:13 PM

"LBsFinest wrote:

Of course, but if we sign him let Odrick walk, he ain't THAT much better than Earl Mitchell, get another DT in the draft, we could get an Eddie Goldman in the 2nd or even Carl Davis in the 3rd

I agree LB..cut everyone, and find him a young player with hi upside in the draft like goldman to make up the talent loss and where you don't have to drop a first round contract on..

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Mar 2, 2015, 07:14 PM

"Piston Honda wrote:

Who else you gonna cut to clear the cap space?

starks..ellerbe..let odrick go...

Phins_Fan_87Phins_Fan_87subscriber
Mar 2, 2015, 07:15 PM

tannenbaum has given some bad contracts. i wonder what he would offer suh? $110mil

LBLBsFinestNew Member
Mar 2, 2015, 07:17 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

I agree LB..cut everyone, and find him a young player with hi upside in the draft like goldman to make up the talent loss and where you don't have to drop a first round contract on..

Exactly, you gotta think having Suh here would raise Earl Mitchell's game as well, along with Wake and Vernon.

JWjw3102forum_veteran
Mar 2, 2015, 07:17 PM

As much as I would love to see them sign Suh, I just don't see it as a possibility. He is going to be looking to be paid more than $15 million a year at least and the Dolphins just don't have that type of money to spend on one player. Especially when they have so many needs on the team at this time.

I believe the best place for Suh would be with the Colts. They have the cap space to sign him and with him on their DL, they would probably be the favorite in the AFC next year and for the next several years.

Piston HondaPiston Hondaforum_veteran
Mar 2, 2015, 07:18 PM

"LBsFinest wrote:

Ellerbe, Wheeler (Jun 1), Starks, and Shelley Smith, that's 13.3 mil saved, 16 mil if you designate Ellerbe a Jun 1 cut too.

That saves 13-16 million, 7 of which goes to Clay for his 1 yr deal. Subtract the cost of replacing the guys you listed, say 3-5 million total if we sign scrubs, leaving maybe 3-4 million, half of which will be needed for draft picks.

Who else you gonna cut?

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Mar 2, 2015, 07:23 PM

"Piston Honda wrote:

That saves 13-16 million, 7 of which goes to Clay for his 1 yr deal. 6 million left, minus the cost of replacing the guys you listed, say 3-5 million total, leaving 4-6 million, half of which will be needed for draft picks.

Who else you gonna cut?

Cut Mitchell to and go with the youngster anthony johnson...

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Mar 2, 2015, 07:24 PM

Gimme Suh. I'd love it.

PMpmjNew Member
Mar 2, 2015, 07:24 PM

"Piston Honda wrote:

That saves 13-16 million, 7 of which goes to Clay for his 1 yr deal. Subtract the cost of replacing the guys you listed, say 3-5 million total, leaving maybe 3-4 million, half of which will be needed for draft picks.

Who else you gonna cut?

We already have enough money for everything you listed without including the guys LBsFinest did. Not that I think signing Suh is a good idea.

Piston HondaPiston Hondaforum_veteran
Mar 2, 2015, 07:30 PM

"pmj wrote:

We already have enough money for everything you listed without including the guys LBsFinest did. Not that I think signing Suh is a good idea.

Yeah my mistake. With today's moves we are about 2 million under the cap.

Piston HondaPiston Hondaforum_veteran
Mar 2, 2015, 07:33 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

Cut Mitchell to and go with the youngster anthony johnson...

You think Suh, Francis and Johnson > Odrick, Starks, Mitchell?

LBLBsFinestNew Member
Mar 2, 2015, 07:33 PM

"Piston Honda wrote:

Yeah my mistake. With today's moves we are about 2 million under the cap.

Did you include the 8 mil carryover from last season?

Piston HondaPiston Hondaforum_veteran
Mar 2, 2015, 07:38 PM

"LBsFinest wrote:

Did you include the 8 mil carryover from last season?

Good point.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Mar 2, 2015, 07:38 PM

No, tbh Philbin and Co have not shown they know what to do with elite talent as it is.

LimboLimboforum_veteran
Mar 2, 2015, 07:44 PM

Yup I'd do whatever I can to land him as long as he comes a shade cheaper than JJ Watt. Probably the best DT in the game. This kind of player does not hit the open market too often. Elite!

Georgia FinGeorgia Finforum_veteran
Mar 2, 2015, 07:49 PM

These clowns can't handle Wallace and you want t o give them Suh??????? No thanks.

It's the gift that keeps on giving.

LBLBsFinestNew Member
Mar 2, 2015, 07:49 PM

"Piston Honda wrote:

Good point.

Okay I fooled around a bit at overthecap, after Clay's tag we currently have 9.5 mil in cap space, you cut Shelly Smith and Starks, Ellerbe and Wheeler for Jun 1, that gives us approx $26.9 mil. But 11.4 mil of that wouldn't become available until Jun 1st, so we'd have about 15.5 mil for free agency, then another 11.4 mil clears in June which is more than enough to sign all our draft picks.

if we just cut Ellerbe outright we'll have 21.1 mil for the immediate free agency period. And obviously we can sign Pounce and Clay to long term deals to lower those $7 million cap numbers and free up a little more space.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Mar 2, 2015, 07:54 PM

"Piston Honda wrote:

You think Suh, Francis and Johnson > Odrick, Starks, Mitchell?

I dont have a problem with it..That defense with all three healthy didn't do anything of substance, and none of them require a double team..

lets look at this from a team perspective...He is immediately the leader of the team..he's the most dominant at the position..He matches up well with the pats..no injury history..

I have a feeling, just a hunch, he's not gonna ask for more than JJ watt, maybe a lil but not as much as some are saying.

LBLBsFinestNew Member
Mar 2, 2015, 08:21 PM

Went to fanspeak's free agency simulator fanspeak.com/mtc/ ...restructuring Wallace and Albert's contracts free up another 12 mil. 33 mil for FA, now we're talking.

patcobbpatcobbforum_veteran
Mar 2, 2015, 08:24 PM

I would love to go all in on suh

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