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National Anthem Protest?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Phins_Fan_87, Sep 10, 2016.

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  1. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    I really hope our guys just show some respect and keep it classy tomorrow, on 9/11, for the national anthem. There is always another sunday to protest, but tomorrow should not be one during the anthem imo.

    Are you expecting the team/players to do something tomorrow?
     
  2. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    They shouldn't because nobody gives a ****...The real protest right now is being waged by native Americans and that pipeline.
     
  3. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I think 9/11 is the perfect time to protest that sort of thing actually. There's nothing more American than speaking your mind. Not speaking your mind is the kind of thing those 9/11 terrorists wanted.
     
  4. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    If they protest they will lose me as a fan. Yes, you have a right to be a douche and I have a right to not support the behavior. I will be at home standing and watching...
     
  5. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    pft
     
  6. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    As long as Pete Carroll gets pepper sprayed in the face, I'm on board...
     
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  7. cbrad

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    They should protect the mediocrity of this franchise by winning the damn game.
     
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  8. vt_dolfan

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    I'm not a fan of this. I believe there is a time and a place to protest... And a time and a place to honor our country, and those that have given and do give their lives to protect us. To me the National Anthem is very symbolic of our countries brave fight for independence.... Men literally gave their lives to keep the flag from falling.

    You can protest racial injustice and not disrespect others in the process.
     
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  9. Silverphin

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    While I'm still not sure if Colin Kaepernick (or anyone) kneeling/sitting during the National Anthem is the best way to protest (though I agree with their stance), they have the right.

    And I think saying that it disrespects the military is a hollow argument, especially when there are a lot of military men, past and present, who are backing up Colin, and even more especially when there is stuff being done by our own government that's WAAAAAY more disrespectful, such as voting against the expansion of VA benefits.

    (This will be my last thing said on here regarding this since PoFo was shut down by the mods, and I want to respect that).
     
  10. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Let them protest, thats a right. Even if its for all the wrong reasons.
     
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  11. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I think people should just stop making these threads. They will be closed.
     
  12. Shane Falco

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    Not gonna say a word. But Fin-O gets it.


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  13. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Why would they be closed? The Dolphins held a players only meeting to discuss joining the Seahawks. It's now relevant.

    That being said.. The Hawks standing and interlocking arms as they will be doing... Is symbolic and respectful at the same time.. And I commend them for their approach.
     
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  14. Stringer Bell

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    Good for them for expressing what they believe.

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  15. Titleguru

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    I personally pay $299 a year to watch the Dolphins at every game. Not every game is broadcast in my area. So I'm paying them to entertain me with the game of football, not demonstrate their political beliefs. Some of that $299 is going to pay these guys salary. If they want to be politically active outside of the football venue then that's their right. Otherwise they're violating my rights of enjoying a thing that gets me away from the daily grind and politics.
     
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  16. I think this thread should be moved to the pofo

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  17. shamegame13

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    Good for those who stand, kneel, or sit for what they believe in. They arent harming or disrespecting anyone, just simply choosing a stance in a pre-game national anthem in a respectful manner.
     
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  18. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Maybe Samphin can hire that pig that peppersprayed those kids with interlocked arms at Berkeley.
     
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  20. GARDENHEAD

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    They're violating your rights?!?!? That's the most absurd take on this whole issue and there have been some doozies!

    Congrats! You win!!!
     
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  21. JShady

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    The players should donate their checks to the cause then. It speaks louder than disrespecting the troops.
     
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  22. Stringer Bell

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    Players donate to charity all the time. Never receives 1/10th of the attention this has.

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  23. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    But does 100 times the good.
     
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  24. JShady

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    Talking about to the torn down cities such as the ghettos not the Lamar Odom type charities.
     
  25. Superself

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    This nonviolent way of protesting doesn't interfere with or harm my daily life so I have no problem with their right to sit, stand or whatever during the anthem.




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  26. JShady

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    My last take on this subject. If the players on our team decides to do what they think is right then fine. However, sponsors, fans who buy their jerseys and ect have every right to protest them for sitting.

    If the players want to protest then that's fine. On your off time go join a peaceful march or rally about cop on civilian violence. (My opinion incoming) Just don't slap the veterans in the face. Yes, I understand that they fought for you to protest but let us the American people show the active duty/vets that we acknowledge their sacrifice by standing for that American flag. The U.S Military members don't have the right to disrespect this country or else they face UCMJ disciplinary actions.
     
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  27. Fin D

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    I feel like people think its stupid to be outraged by unarmed people being shot to death by the police, but think its perfectly reasonable to outraged by someone sitting during our national jingle.

    Weird.
     
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  28. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, you have the right as individuals to burn the flag, stomp on it, drag it through the mud for whatever reason you want to use to validate it. You can sit, squat or kneel for the national anthem and use whatever reason you want to validate that too. Theres a reason why you cant do it while serving in the military. It's disrespectful. Peaople are trying to pretend it's not.
     
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  29. Fin D

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    Its more disrespectful to expect people not be outraged by the police shooting and killing unarmed citizens.
     
  30. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    There isnt some epidemic of people being shot to death by police for no reason and if there were I could think of many better ways to protest it other than squatting for the national anthem on 9/11 when members of the military, first responders and casualties of that event are being honored.
     
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  31. Stringer Bell

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    Me too.

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  32. Stringer Bell

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    Dont agree. Raising awareness is important.

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  33. JShady

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    Trying my hardest to be very careful about what I post.

    Just look at the FBI statistics. About 4%? of citizens are killed by police action. Now most of those killings are justified.

    Now look at the other category and civilian on civilian killings are way higher. Where is the outrage on that?
     
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  34. JShady

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    I can say this with everyone on here (hopefully) agreeing with me. Lets kick the Seahawks *** where we have PETA pissed off at us tomorrow.
     
  35. normaldude

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    I'm outraged at criminals killing 16,000 Americans per year, plus all the rapes, assaults, vandalism, arson, looting, robberies (like a drugged up Michael Brown robbing a convenience store, before punching police officer Darren Wilson)

    The police are fighting crime. It's a difficult, dangerous job, and accidents do happen.

    I'm on the side of USA, the US flag, and the police.

    When civil war comes, this is my enemy:

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  36. Ild like to see the police react by sitting down on their jobs too. Just dont show up when called and lets find out how much the police are appriciated when their pressence is missed. Everybody hates the police until they need them.

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  37. Ronnie Bass

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    I don't understand why it's offensive what the Seahawks are doing, they're standing, not sitting or even kneeling.

    If anything this is a shot at Kapernick by showing unity instead of division.
     
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  38. Fin D

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    What's the acceptable number of unarmed citizens being shot to death by police?

    These are not mutually exclusive outrages. You can be upset by both. I can't change individual citizens, but we can change our government's policies.

    Also, there is plenty of outrage over civilian on civilian killings and rapes. Wanna take a gander at which side downplays those things as attempts to take guns and pretending there's a rape culture?

    Yes....i think you made where your motivations lie VERY clear.

    They aren't sitting on their job. They aren't paid to stand for the anthem last I checked. The combine and draft would wholly different animals if they were.
     
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  39. OkiePhin

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    This thread was made before anyone knew their intentions. There were rumors they would all prostest and many thought they might all sit. Im pretty pleased with their plan personally. There are rumors that the Dolphins also might have something planned. Lets hope they follow the Seahawks lead and keep it respectful.
     
  40. resnor

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    Again, the fact that they're unarmed is almost always not known until AFTER the shooting. They're almost always shot because they act as if armed, OR ARE KNOWN TO OFTEN BE armed because of previous interactions with police. Also, if a person is actively assaulting an officer, it really doesn't matter if they're unarmed.

    The police aren't walking around randomly shooting black people. There are also unarmed white people being shot, to.
     
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