https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2024/0...g-to-win-today-drafted-projects-for-tomorrow/ This exactly how I feel and now I am sure all the pro grier guys will start attacking David Hyde call him an idiot etc.
The article is blocked. Does the author make suggestions on who the Dolphins should have drafted in those slots that are going to be day one, immediate impact, full time starters? I'm guessing not and it's a whiny article just to whine.
It's David Hyde hall of fame flordia sports writer who has forgotten more about sports than u will ever know!
The article is behind a paywall and I can't see his genius insight. What were his suggestions on what to do with those picks?
If you’re going to post the link to an article to start a conversation, then it should be a link everyone can open and view. If it’s an article that can’t be viewed by all, then writer responsibility dictates quotes via copy and paste. At least that’s how articles were linked once upon a time…quote a portion of the article, post the li k to said article and provide commentary.
Everyone on here always bashed Omar Kelly so I assumed most had subscriptions to Sun-Sentinal. I guess if u don't I wouldn't bother to reply.
I suppose I assumed it was well known I’m an objective fact based conversationalist. I offer opinions based on facts and post said facts that my options are based on. I criticize other’s opinions when the facts don’t validate their opinion…including posters here and sports writers including Omar Kelly. But simply criticizing Kelly (et al) doesn’t equate bashing him all of the time and doesn’t mean I’m not curious what he or others are saying.
It used to be not behind a paywall and sadly Hyde has been mostly right when it comes to actual success concerning our Dolphins.
It's a good article. If you want to get past the pay wall just put your phone in airplane Mode within a second of loading the page. The last paragraph pretty much summarizes Hyde's good point. " I’m getting whiplash from the Dolphins blueprint. They tanked for tomorrow for two years starting in 2019, trading players for draft picks, sacrificing wins to build a roster. Then came the U-turn in 2021 of trading draft picks and spending money for veteran stars to win in a small window starting last year. Only they haven’t won. Now comes a draft where they’re looking at tomorrow again. No one expects too much any season from rookies. But getting starters out of the first two picks isn’t too much on a team that lost several starters, is it? Instead, a team with little time drafted players who need time."
I like him a lot too, got a quick first step and good production also like the receivers we picked up. Like the RB but not how we got him.
Hate to say it, but look at the Chargers draft. Holy. They bleeping nailed it. You see how Ortiz and Harbaugh on the same page and have a clear plan of how they want to build the team. Meanwhile, isn't it nauseating to see McDaniel sitting next to Grier in those press conferences after the draft? It's brutal. It's like he's Grier's little step child. I like McDaniel. I just think he was put into a bad situation.
Actually the way I see our draft, we replenished what we knew we were going to end up losing… Robinson for Chubb Paul for Armstead Wright for Moestert Any organization has to have the personnel for next man up. I know I e been critical of Grier and have frequently bashed him but it seems to me the mindset of this draft was to maintain the personnel we need when we lose those we have.
And what about Hunt,Wilkins,Williams.Three of our best interiors last year. Not going to beat any good teams in cold weather if ur trenches are soft.
Nah. Not the case here. He always does deals in order to cover up his past blunders and there have been many.
What a horrible situation it must be. Poor little fella. I bet McDaniel wishes he never left Atlanta. He could have had Kirk Cousins on a mega deal and a useless 1st round QB to hold a clipboard for the next four years.
this draft and free agency were 100% about maintain the same record as last year with the eye in the future. They know they can’t win the Super Bowl with this roster as it is. They don’t want to step back so they stop gapped the entire team next year they will try to have a big draft with all their picks and win it all in 3 years. my personally if we don’t win a playoff game this year Grier is gone and depending on the record McDaniels is on a hot seat
There aren't two states of being for NFL teams. It's not rebuilding or win now. Grier's draft philosophy with McDaniel is apparent. They value ceilings over floors, this was true with Flores to a lesser extent. They believe in coaching and want elite traits to match scheme, but trust coaching to correct technique. I wish he would trust coaching when it came to extending rookie contracts early and/or with higher $. There were no win now rookies available when the Dolphins drafted. Checkout the blurbs on the NFL.com profiles, which have been fairly accurate as to the general consensus on a player. The positions of need weren't expecting to start right away. Get the edge and tackle with the physical tools and proven ability to be better than every one else in the draft and trust coaching to make it happen.
And how.many playoff wins has this great drafter produced? Because let's face it ,that's all that matters.
You do know that the players play, and the coaches coach, right? Injuries happen, plays are called, and refs throw flags. You are mistaking results for process. Long term success is determined by process, and that's what I want. Not brief moments of success. I want the Shula years back. I believe in Grier's process. It built the teams Flores, and now McDaniel wanted, switching between the two in a season.
I like Dave Hyde. But like a lot of the knowledgeable folks on this message board, he doesn't realize the audacity it takes to think that he knows what the coaches want in order to fill their rosters. He, like some of you, built his big board and while not having the resources to evaluate players from anything beyond Saturday afternoon game tape and word of mouth, assumes he knows more than the people making the decisions. I'm not saying that the brain trust made good or great calls over the draft, just that they had way more information on which to base those choices. Dave Hyde didn't do interviews or conduct pro days. He didn't check medical reports. He didn't have investigators look into players' backgrounds off the field or in the locker room. It takes a special brand of hubris to say "they got that wrong" when every year, Hyde and many other writers also get it wrong. Consider last year, when Detroit got panned for taking Jahmyr Gibbs (gasp - a running back!) in the top of the draft and then selected Jack Campbell at #18 when he was a projected late first rounder. They said you don't draft running backs in the first round and they could have traded back to still get Campbell. The idiots. But both players played great for them in their run to the NFCCG. And it's silly to suggest that Detroit should have taken any deal to move back to still get their guy because the #19 team might want him just as bad. Get who you want when you can. If he's clear BPA on YOUR board, ignore the chatter and let the people with nothing to lose talk about what they would have done if they were in your seat on draft day. I guarantee, if you look at Dave Hyde's mock drafts for the past decade, you'll fine plenty of players who didn't play as well as he thought they would. And I'm not going to suggest that you look back at your own projections.
I think you give to much leeway. This isn't 1967, we have access to almost all the same information those guys have access to, especially if you're willing to pay for it. It's fine to argue that a GM is going to have misses. That isn't the problem. The problem is he continues to act like he thinks the oline isn't a priority and we can just stock or with other teams castoffs or guys with checkered injury histories.
I'm 48 and never understood the term, "Ok, boomer" more than today. Why would I put any thought or time into replying to your BS?
https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/miami-dolphins-draft-national-media-grades-roundup He doesn’t suck, but he’s far from great imo.
He's mediocre. Only all pro he's ever drafted was Xavien Howard. He had tons of draft capital to work with after the tank, and he hasn’t managed a single all pro or ROY candidate. Most of his picks have been either busts or underwhelming given their draft status. Just because a guy he drafted is starting doesn’t mean they actually were a great pick, especially considering all of the RoY and HoF candidates Grier has left on boards throughout his tenure.
The Holland and Achane picks were really good but overall I think he didn’t do enough with all the resources he had. Next season will show if he deserves to stay or if we should part ways.
I think that this is a great example. Both of those guys played right away and contributed. Our picks are the opposite. Here is the thing. I am the first one to pound the table to take BPA regardless of position. I love the Patrick Paul pick. I think Armstead has a year left, and Paul needs to improve. We could be cheap for the next few seasons at a high priced position. The problem is that our whole draft cannot be players like that. Some of these guys have fairly long runways before they are expected to start logging serious playing time. Looking at each player individually makes a lot of sense, but when you look at the draft as a whole, it is problematic. I liked the Kamara pick. A lot of people on this board like Kamara. You may see him as a rotational guy early on in the season, but after that, he literally might not even be active for game day.
This was a solid draft and nobody should be surprised to see anyone selected make the team and/or contribute this season. Paul is the only player that I think will require significant development, but he also has the highest upside. Saturday picks typically are hit or miss (with a lot more miss), but we managed to get guys who have significantly higher value than their draft slots. I'd go as far as saying we got low hanging fruit with Kamara and Washington. But then again, opinions are like a**holes and mine probably smells bad to some of you. But from a lot of the takes I've read, those same folks think roses stink. Just sayin'...
