New book: Nick Saban’s wife wanted out of Miami, pushed him to Alabama

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jdang307jdang307subscriberOP
Jul 19, 2015, 03:55 PM

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/football/new-book-nick-sabans-wife-wanted-out-of-miami-push/nm2Ty/

New book: Nick Saban’s wife wanted out of Miami, pushed him to Alabama

:deadhorse:

Hey it's the slow season.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jul 19, 2015, 04:35 PM

Yeah, the story came out years ago, but I guess its back in the news because of the book. The bit from the Oilers was sad and funny at the same time, though. Saban is just an awful human being, plain and simple.

7777FinFansubscriber
Jul 19, 2015, 04:36 PM

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

Yeah, the story came out years ago, but I guess its back in the news because of the book. The bit from the Oilers was sad and funny at the same time, though. Saban is just an awful human being, plain and simple.

You've read the book?

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jul 19, 2015, 04:39 PM

"77FinFan wrote:

You've read the book?

No, but there have been many stories about it in the news this week. The tale of his wife being the one who pushed him out of Miami came out in the news way, way back. I don't remember if I read it in a Miami paper or on a national site, but it was out there years ago.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Jul 19, 2015, 05:54 PM

their both bit##es.

FIFin4Eversubscriber
Jul 19, 2015, 06:11 PM

I wish his wife would have liked Miami better because if she did, I think we would already havewon the Super Bowl with Saban imho...although we were all very angry with him it does not take away from fact that he is a special talent in coaching..and I can really understand people not liking the city, Miami.

jdang307jdang307subscriber
Jul 19, 2015, 08:19 PM

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

No, but there have been many stories about it in the news this week. The tale of his wife being the one who pushed him out of Miami came out in the news way, way back. I don't remember if I read it in a Miami paper or on a national site, but it was out there years ago.

Yeah but the question was, was he lying when he said he was not taking the Bama job or did he just renege and change his mind. It was always the wife who pushed him out. But it sounds as if Saban, wanted out, but wanted to keep his word and then with the nudge from his wife, said eff it and went back on his word.

Doesn't make him a saint. But clarifies that.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Jul 19, 2015, 08:42 PM

"jdang307 wrote:

Doesn't make him a saint. But clarifies that.

*If true. It could be bending the truth by the author, or the person who told them. It could also be like the telephone game, where the story changes a little each time someone tells it. I lean towards his wife certainly wanting out, but Saban trying to use it as cover to save face.

Eop05Eop05subscriber
Jul 19, 2015, 10:18 PM

"Fin4Ever wrote:

I wish his wife would have liked Miami better because if she did, I think we would already havewon the Super Bowl with Saban imho...although we were all very angry with him it does not take away from fact that he is a special talent in coaching..and I can really understand people not liking the city, Miami.

Saban was a good defensive NFL coach and a great NCAA recruiter.

But there is/was no evidence given showing that he had any idea on how to lead or build a successful NFL offense. In just two seasons he passed on 2 HOF QBs right there for the taking.

Jaydog57Jaydog57forum_veteran
Jul 19, 2015, 10:25 PM

Interesting about him having a shouting match with Zach Thomas. Unlike the kids in college football, some NFL players will yell right back at you. I'm sure he wasn't used to that at all. I think he's similar to coaches like Holtz and Spurrier, in that he's better suited as a college coach.

7777FinFansubscriber
Jul 19, 2015, 10:44 PM

"Jaydog57 wrote:

Interesting about him having a shouting match with Zach Thomas. Unlike the kids in college football, some NFL players will yell right back at you. I'm sure he wasn't used to that at all. I think he's similar to coaches like Holtz and Spurrier, in that he's better suited as a college coach.

Man, I would love to hear what that was about.

TiP54TiP54New Member
Jul 19, 2015, 10:46 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

bakedmattbakedmattNew Member
Jul 19, 2015, 10:57 PM

"Fin4Ever wrote:

I wish his wife would have liked Miami better because if she did, I think we would already havewon the Super Bowl with Saban imho...although we were all very angry with him it does not take away from fact that he is a special talent in coaching..and I can really understand people not liking the city, Miami.

I disagree. Looking back, the FA signings he made were short term fixes and paired with his sub-par drafting, he very much responsible for setting up the 2007 season. Garbage.

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jdang307jdang307subscriber
Jul 20, 2015, 12:11 AM

Saban the Xs and Os coach is super bowl capable. Saban the GM probably not.

Harleydude666Harleydude666forum_veteran
Jul 20, 2015, 07:08 AM

"Fin4Ever wrote:

I wish his wife would have liked Miami better because if she did, I think we would already havewon the Super Bowl with Saban imho...although we were all very angry with him it does not take away from fact that he is a special talent in coaching..and I can really understand people not liking the city, Miami.

Haha, I don't think so dude. His drafts sucked and his FA pickups were worse. He knows he screwed that up and it made his decision easier to move knowing his talent pool he acquired would not have gotten it done

jason8erjason8erluxury_box
Jul 20, 2015, 08:19 AM

Saban's coaching style can take high schoolers and mold them into good college players. It can't however, work on an NFL veteran. The in-your-face screaming I personally witnessed at training camp was jaw dropping and embarrassing. How some players didn't drop him or his like-minded assistants on the spot is amazing. His management skill were even more atrocious, as he had the entire building walking on egg shells. From tattling spys in their midst, to needing permission to even talk to the POS, Nick Saban is a study in how to blow up an NFL franchise.

JWjw3102forum_veteran
Jul 20, 2015, 08:29 AM

I wouldn't put it past Saban to put the blame on his wife. The truth is he wasn't a very good NFL head coach and he took the best offer he could to get out before eventually being fired as the Dolphins head coach in a year or two.

He is an outstanding college coach because he is an excellent recruiter. He is able to get the top recruits at Alabama and that is the reason he consistently has one of the top teams in the nation. As an NFL head coach, he was terrible when it came to the draft and the team regressed in his time with the Dolphins.

Some head coaches have the ability to coach at the professional level. Saban was NOT one of these coaches.

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Jul 20, 2015, 09:18 AM

He was a good coach, but clearly a bad GM. He also had trust issues that would have prevented NFL success.

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Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Jul 20, 2015, 09:24 AM

We have known this for a while now, nothing new came from that book. I think people are just piling on since everyone else seems to be talking bad about him.

Tin IndianTin Indianforum_veteran
Jul 20, 2015, 09:32 AM

His wife not liking Miami was well known at the time, so that is not exactly ground breaking. Saban is a great college coach and his shtick works well with college age kids. Grown men however are not going to put up with his crap for long. His totalitarian style in the office was ridiculous as well, wrong kind of Little Debbies? Really? I also agree the guy was really bad at personnel too. Jason Allen? WTF?!

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finsergfinsergNew Member
Jul 20, 2015, 10:59 AM

That B@@@@ :tantrum: I really liked him as a coach

PAPaulyforum_veteran
Jul 21, 2015, 01:03 AM

"bakedmatt wrote:

I disagree. Looking back, the FA signings he made were short term fixes and paired with his sub-par drafting, he very much responsible for setting up the 2007 season. Garbage.

Agree totally with this. If Saban was genuinely a good coach, and good at developing NFL players the team he left behind would not have been one Camarillo catch and run away from 0-16.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Jul 21, 2015, 02:25 AM

"Pauly wrote:

Agree totally with this. If Saban was genuinely a good coach, and good at developing NFL players the team he left behind would not have been one Camarillo catch and run away from 0-16.

players know when a coaches heart isn't in it..player don't reach their potential when there is unstability.

rafaelrafaelforum_veteran
Jul 21, 2015, 01:27 PM

I can't recall who the lineman was, but there was a report about one of Saban's players going into convulsions on the field. Everybody gets worried b/c this is obviously serious and the player was soon after airlifted to the hospital. Reportedly, while everybody else was showing reasonable human concern, Saban steps over the player completely oblivious. That incident was something I heard repeated often by players after Saban left. It clearly left an indelible mark. Saban may pretend to care about his players, but that incident revealed a complete lack of compassion. You hear about Saban getting into shouting matches with Zach (usually a coach's dream player) and you wonder how many players just saw Saban as a piece of crap person. He was obviously a brilliant football mind and the boss, but I doubt many would run through a wall for him. He's better off in college where youngsters are easier to fool and you only have to pretend to care for a short time.

jason8erjason8erluxury_box
Jul 21, 2015, 03:30 PM

"rafael wrote:

I can't recall who the lineman was, but there was a report about one of Saban's players going into convulsions on the field. Everybody gets worried b/c this is obviously serious and the player was soon after airlifted to the hospital. Reportedly, while everybody else was showing reasonable human concern, Saban steps over the player completely oblivious. That incident was something I heard repeated often by players after Saban left. It clearly left an indelible mark. Saban may pretend to care about his players, but that incident revealed a complete lack of compassion. You hear about Saban getting into shouting matches with Zach (usually a coach's dream player) and you wonder how many players just saw Saban as a piece of crap person. He was obviously a brilliant football mind and the boss, but I doubt many would run through a wall for him. He's better off in college where youngsters are easier to fool and you only have to pretend to care for a short time.

Yeah, that was Jeno James and it wasn't on the field. Saban stepped over him because he was lying in the middle of the hallway convulsing after just coming inside the building from practice. The little douche had to step over him to go up the stairs to his office.

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