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New depth chart is out, couple of interesting observations...

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Paul 13, Sep 5, 2010.

  1. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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  2. ascii

    ascii People Watcher

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    That made me sad. :sad:
     
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  3. MikeHoncho

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    Wow. Apparently Ricky and Ronny have been relegated to special teams duties and Dan Carpenter is the second string NT.
     
  4. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    There are many who claimed and still believe Thigpen could run the wildcat effectively, so maybe that's why he'd be listed at #2 instead of Penny. It's clear Penny is the backup, when he goes in the offense instantly becomes a consistent machine (though the chance of big plays kind of disappear).

    It's exactly like when White was #2 over Henne at the start of last season I think.
     
  5. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    i thought he could when we first got him but have since given up on the idea. If he can, my opinion of him will go up quite a bit. I would love to find someone who can offer that extra dimension
     
  6. padre31

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    That is Sparano baby.

    What I noticed is keeping Grove may mean if Incognito goes down, Berger slides over to LG and Grove plays Center?

    Maybe Thiggy picks up the PatCat role?

    But what would it be called? "The PigPen?"
     
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  7. ascii

    ascii People Watcher

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    Read somewhere to add a "n" and call it "The WildThing" :lol:

    I think you're spot on with Grove. I think he still is on the line, depending on the waiver wires.
     
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  8. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I don't think he's big enough to run it inside, same problem White had... it's not the same without big Ronnie dispersing the rock...
     
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  9. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    tyler thigpen will not be part of the wildcat offense..theres no need for him, he cant run the ball between the tackles.
     
  10. SF Dolfan

    SF Dolfan New Member

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    Agreed. Honestly, there really is no wildcat without Ronnie. He just has a talent to run that formation and we're nowhere near as successful with someone else running it. I really hope with Henne in his 2nd year and the addition of Marshall that we can be more consistent out of the base and place less importance on the Wildcat.

     
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  11. djphinfan

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    agreed on the first part disagree on the last part...This offense needs the wildcat and the consistency that ronnie takes the snap and gains yards is a no brainer imo....When you find a way for your most talented player to handle the ball, and hes successful doing so, you dont abort....

    The wildcat is our most positive running formation...0 turnovers with about a 5.5 yard average, over a 2 year span...

    If it wasn't for a bogus holding call on Fasano, its explosiveness would have been once again identified in the preseason..

    With Ronnie brown's specific wildcat skillset, I think this formation should be very relevant in this offense...

    If he is taken away from this formation, and the formation is taken away from this offense, I will then really start to question whether or not we have the correct coaching staff.
     
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  12. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    we shouldn't forget that the wildcat was introduced to us two years ago because we couldn't run the ball effectively out of our base and Sparano and co wanted to create better angles for our OL to block their guys. More of an indictment of the line than a promotion for Ronnie. I have to believe that we would like nothing better than to be able to run out of our base offense this year.
     
  13. SF Dolfan

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    Yeah, I'm not saying we dump it altogether. I just want to see production out of our base offense too-- utilizing Marshall and for Henne to develop. Ronnie may or may not be back after this season and I believe he's one of only a couple of guys out there who can do what he does from that formation. And I honestly can't name the others. I like the wildcat with Ronnie. It's things in the play calling like Ricky attempting a pass from the one yard line and the wild Pat that bothered me.


     
  14. SF Dolfan

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    Give our interior line a few weeks to gel and the addition of a great blocking WR in Marshall, I would love to see us run consistently out of the base.

     
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  15. Mcduffie81

    Mcduffie81 Wildcat Club Member

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    Wasnt the infamous play where Ricky threw the int (within the 5 effing yard line) againts Fluffalo out of the Wildcat?

    Ive heard that stat "0 turnovers out of the WC" alot. Wasnt sure about that one.
     
  16. Conuficus

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    Berger ahead of Grove is the biggest thing I noticed. What are we doing with this? Are we looking to trade him or keep him as a very highly paid back up.
     
  17. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I believe the wildcat was introduced because Chad Pennington did not have enough arm strength to keep men from entering the box, thus making life very difficult for the oline..The wildcat created horizontal space and hesitation.. ronnie and Chad took advantage of it.
     
  18. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    for me, whenever ronnie is taking the direct snap it's the wildcat, when someone else is taking it on this team, its a mistake and shouldn't of happened to begin with....Your referring to one of the biggest blunders I have ever witnessed a professional coach try to do, so iam not going to count that in terms of real wildcat...Ronnie brown has 0 turnovers in 2 years out of the formation.
     
  19. phinnhedd

    phinnhedd Reality.

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    I'm concerned with the special teams... Erik Walden was a beast on ST and we let him go. Patrick Cobbs will never break a huge return. Looks like we're going to be starting from the 20 quite a bit.
     
  20. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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  21. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Iam not sure if this cat has been competing at 100 percent, let berger start the season, get grove completely healthy and return him to the center position after the bye....maybe?
     
  22. Disgustipate

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    That's a pretty good point. Thigpen doesn't have the upside that White did as a rusher, but that was never going to matter if White never got acclimated to game speed. 6.2 YPC in the year he started is pretty good.
     
  23. High Definition

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    If Patrick Cobbs returns the opening kick I'm changing the channel to another game and I won't even lurk the box score.

    Every time Fox updates our game I'll mute.
     
  24. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    It hurts,I know. Did the kid from Pitt clear waivers yet?
     
  25. Jaj

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    You know who Sparano is starting to remind me of?

    Mike Scioscia from the Angels. Just making dumbfounded decision after decision that cancels something that's overall really good (the starting pitching, the defense etc... vs. our running game and physicality/talent).

    Takes a coach above that to get to the next level.
     
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    I thought I read yesterday that quite a few teams put in a claim for him, but I can't find anything.... ?
     
  27. Brown42000

    Brown42000 Chillin

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    I'm sure.
     
  28. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    Lions got him.
     

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