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Discussion in 'TV, Music and Movies' started by Fin D, Mar 14, 2016.

  1. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin RIP Phinsational Luxury Box Club Member

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    Glad to see you enjoyed Cobra & Chernobyl.

    I’ll get to NOS4A2 when it’s about 4 episodes in. I often feel a better sense of attachment to a series when I’m able to binge the first 3 or 4 episodes.
     
  2. KeyFin

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    It's....different. Very different. It almost reminds me of Children of the Corn meets The Craft...with Santa! I mean, the main bad guy kidnaps kids by promising to bring them to the North Pole where it's Christmas every day...but he does it in the eeriest and creepiest possible way. I almost want to hate it but I can't stop watching! =)

    Anyway, episode 3 drops this Sunday or Monday (I DVR so I forget which day it is). The writing is excellent though and it's like nothing else on TV by a wide margin.
     
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  3. Destroyer

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    The new season of Fear the Walking Dead is pretty damn good. Definitely better than the last few seasons from the Walking Dead.
     
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  4. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree I drink your milkshake! Club Member

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    I just finished it today. The show is delightful. I wouldn't call it great, but it is good enough for me to watch for six episodes, enjoy, and hope for a season 2.
     
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  5. Unlucky 13

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    I don't know that I'll ever get used to the super short seasons that shows have now sometimes. I still think of 22 episodes as being normal, and feel that 12-15 is short. But its been years since a show that I regularly watch was given the full 22 episode run. Now, I guess its pretty normal for streaming shows to only go 8-10 as a "full" season, and some are designed for less than that. Its like a snack, not a filling meal. And its even weirder when there are multiple years between seasons sometimes.
     
  6. adamprez2003

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    Watched Good Omens and Catch 22 on Amazon. Catch 22 was good but darker then the movie and the book. I remember the book being kind of absurdist and the movie took that tack. The series however was more serious and focused on the dark nature of the situation. Personally, I would've gone for a lighter take.

    Good Omens was very enjoyable. The two main characters, an angel and devil were great. The problem was when they weren't on the screen the series became kind of dull and boring. None of the other characters were very interesting. The good thing is the angel and or devil dominated screen time so the lulls in between weren't that long.
     
  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I remember the book being very dark. Though I haven't read it since high school. It was funny and absurdist, but a good chunk of the book is him saying "there, there" to a guy who is obviously dead.
     
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    It was dark and absurdist. Guess a black comedy. I think the series focused more on the dark whereas the movie focused more on the absurd
     
  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree I drink your milkshake! Club Member

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    I do not like the movie much. I felt it was a very abridged cliff note version of the book.

    I do agree that the movie focused more on the zany than the dark.
     
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  10. ToddPhin

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    Damn, will I have to start the show from the beginning to catch up to when it starts getting good?
     
  11. ToddPhin

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    That’s just bc you’re accustomed to shows with minimal content/production value. :tongue: Better material costs more & takes longer.

    Not to mention, Serial shows (ongoing plots) need to be paced better & can’t contain as much useless filler space. With Episodic shows (aka stand-alone episodes, aka usually boring tv, aka sometimes plotless), you can produce a whole lot more of it obviously bc you’re essentially dealing with new material each episode...... whereas with Serial shows there typically isn’t enough material to support more than 8-12 episodes.

    An ongoing plot with 20+ episodes?.... at multiple seasons no less? Yikes, that’d be a lot of f***in work. Could you imagine one of your stand-alone CSI episodes having to last 20 episodes, let alone 3 seasons of 20+ episodes for the same plot? There’s no way. The content would suck; the writing would end up having to suck; and the viewer would grow bored and lose interest within 4 episodes.

    Thankfully there are so many great Serial shows out there that it doesn’t matter that they’re shorter than their Episodic cousins. It’s probably better that they’re short bc it allows you time to watch other great shows. I mean, the whole point of serial shows is that they’re basically like watching a movie but formatted much longer. 10 episodes might seem short to you, but in movie time it’s the equivalent of a 7-8 hour film. But that’s just for 1 season. 3 seasons and you’re looking at 22 hours. The Lord of the Rings trilogy by comparison was told in 9 hours.

    All of Harry Potter was told in 18 hrs and 38 min, still equivalent to or less time than 3 seasons of a serial show at 8-10 episodes per yr.
     
  12. Unlucky 13

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    I think that there's certainly room for both at the table. Comedy doesn't need to be serial to be entertaining, though it can be serial and be spectacular, as evidenced by The Good Place. I don't watch shows for stupid people, and there's very little comedy on TV that I even pay attention to these days, but I'd like there to be! I see The Good Place as the spiritual successor to other offbeat NBC comedies over the years that I've enjoyed a lot: Community, Scrubs, News Radio and Night Court. All shows that are smart, well acted and well written, and ones that although you can watch the episodes out of order and still like them, are best if you get all of the inside jokes that are built in over time.

    I'm also a person who puts a lot of value on production quality. Camera work and angles, sets, costumes, and of course the level of acting writing and directing. Its difficult for me to enjoy something that's sub par and/or unprofessional, even pure comedy.

    My other favorite current show, Agents of Shield, is very much both high quality and episodic. In fact, you have to know all of the movies in the MCU to fully grasp and appreciate it, and it takes all of that burden on when crafting every episode. The show was originally 22 episodes per season, until ABC tried to cancel it due to poor ratings, before being told that they had to keep creating it by Disney. They generally would split the Autumn and Spring into two separate plot arcs. Now, its just a half season show due to being limited.
     
  13. ToddPhin

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    And how many main characters are in Agents? A bit easier to have more episodes when you have like 15 characters to build up and lend screen time to. If you took away 10 of those characters and could only focus on 5 or less [like most shows], how many episodes do you believe each season would be?
     
  14. Unlucky 13

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    There are five primary characters who have been there since day one, and have been in every episode. Others have come and gone as time has passed, generally about eight at a time, give or take. And for me, that's about the best number. Similar to what most of my other favorite shows over the years have had.
     

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