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Discussion in 'TV, Music and Movies' started by Fin D, Mar 14, 2016.

  1. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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    Vader's drawing Obi-Wan out by torturing and murdering citizens was epic. Well, IMO, anyway. My second-favorite Vader scene since the end of Rogue One.
     
  2. Unlucky 13

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    Oh I'm not even talking about action or dialogue choices. I'm talking about the literal camera work and picture quality.

    in episode 1, there's a scene where he's walking in the desert at night and talks to another character. The lighting is horribly bad, like a show made 40 years ago would have looked like. And the camera man is stumbling around like he's drunk, with the screen moving all over the place. Most home videos are shot better.

    And then in Episode 2 as they're in the warehouse, the screen is really blurry and out of focus in sections for about a minute straight. Its really, really strange looking. There's no reason for any CGI or visual effects in the scene, but its almost as if someone messed up their only copy of that video and they used it anyways. Again, bizarre. Its slapped together like a student film that was turned in even though they knew there were problems.

    You can't have distracting mistakes like that in a top end show. The Mandalorian, Boba Fet and Moon Knight have all had shoots in the dark and in the desert as well, and they all came out fine. Its sad that this one wasn't handled as professionally.
     
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  3. texanphinatic

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    It was a solid scene, but clashed with the motifs from earlier when Reva was essentially doing the same and was stopped by both the Grand dude and the Brother. I get that Vader answers to basically nobody and can do what he wants, but it seemed less about authority and more about excess or something. It felt weird when they forced Reva to curtail her actions before, and then to let Vader just run amok was ... off. It did a good job of conveying the menace he brings though, for sure. I was not very impressed with the actual fight though. And again, some random non-force using rebel is able to stymie and foil Vader?

    I think I know the issue - it feels very cartoon-y in terms of plot holes and elements. Cartoons like Rebels and Bad Batch and Clone Wars are fun and enjoyable, but definitely made for children and often they require a HEAVY dose of disbelief suspension to make it through. I'm fine with doing that for a cartoon, but for what was billed as perhaps the most impactful series of the whole universe? Meh.

    Yeah that's why the parkour stuff stood out, it was super amateurish, like a person filmed a cosplayer doing some parkour. Tons of sudden jumps and cuts that didn't really make sense. To go along with my comment to OO just above ... it gives it an amateurish and almost cartoonish feel.
     
  4. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Yea, it was a homage to the prequels
     
  5. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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    Okay, so I watched the first episode of The Orville season 4. I'm probably in the minority, but that's literally one of my favorite TV shows. If it was actually in the Star Trek universe, it would be my favorite Star Trek show.

    Also, I began watching The Man Who Fell To Earth yesterday and I'm wondering why I wasn't previously interested in it. It's not going to be everybody's cup of tea, but it's definitely got my attention. I'm trying to figure out which of my friends and family to recommend it to and I can't think of anybody. Maybe my Mom will enjoy it.
     
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  6. Unlucky 13

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    I really enjoyed season one of the Orville, but the second went way off in weird directions that I didn't care for.
     
  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I thought the first episode of Ms. Marvel was pretty good. It wasn't perfect by any means. A lot of the drama felt forced to me. Like the mom getting upset and then giving a speech of "do you want to be a good girl or do you want to be a cosmic superhero?" Instead of a more realistic, "This is my house, you live under my rules, you are grounded for a month, and if I ever see hear you talk about the avengers one more time you are going to speak in bubbles because your mouth is going to be filled with so much soap!"

    I enjoy how it is shot. Pretty imaginative and while the dialog feels too "we need to set up the tension and get this origin over with" it didn't feel like it was a Iron Man 2008 like most Marvel movies and shows.

    It will not be for everyone, but so far, I enjoy it.

    I look forward to being disappointed by the finale.
     
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  8. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I largely agree. However, the mom getting upset thing ... could that be a cultural representation? It's somewhat stereotypical, the idea that Asians focusing heavily on career/education and being doctors/lawyers or other 'high ranking' professions, so in that regard the mom is trying to get her Americanized daughter to think more about her future path? Just a thought. Much of the rest of the tension is just teenage hijinks which I think is somewhat stale to older viewers, but I suspect resonate with younger. It's kind of what made me regard the Holland Spider Man films (at least the first two) as weaker entries. It works better in the TV format imo.

    The other thing I need more of is the origin of this bangle, how it grants power and how it came to be hers. Otherwise it just feels a bit too McGuffinish for my liking. The 10 rings semi-suffered for that as well, but at least we got the idea that they were truly ancient via the montage of the father and we saw them being passed to Shang Chi.

    It's definitely the polar opposite of Moon Knight though. From dark and violent and largely self-contained to bright and cheery and packed to the gills with Avengers content. The callback to Captain America's *** was the best moment imo.
     
  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I get the mom being upset thing. It is more of her upset speech didn't sound like a mom upset but a mom giving a future super hero a pep talk.
     
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  10. OwesOwn614

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    There's a lot of good TV content nowadays. I know a lot of you didn't like Obi-Wan Kenobi, but I really enjoyed it. Especially the finale, which was the most Star Warsy content I've seen in a live action Star Wars feature since the original trilogy. The confrontation was perfect and Hayden Christenson more than redeemed his performance as Anakin in one shot. The smile chilled me more than anything else since Vader struck down Ben in the halls of the Death Star. Not a perfect show by a long shot, but they landed it better than any of the Disney+ MCU shows have been able to.

    I'm loving Ms. Marvel. Her mom is my favorite MCU Disney+ character since Isaiah Bradley in Falcon & the Winter Soldier. There isn't a single character that I don't like.

    I got into The Man Who Fell To Earth late and I'm really digging it. It's one of those that I can't recommend because I can't explain what makes it great without making it sound boring. But I wish someone had recommended I watch it sooner.

    Stranger Things season 4 is fantastic. I didn't expect them to go full-on horror and it was a great decision. I didn't think the Duffers could put emotional content into the show, but the finale got me. Glad I watched it alone. Jamie Campbell Bower is fantastic and Vecna is the best villain in a mainstream horror property that I can recall. The only problem was with Hopper, Murray, and Joyce, which took away from the rest of the season with an unnecessary adventure that didn't tie into the story at all.

    I read where From was renewed and I can't wait for it to come back. Again, another primo horror series. Invasion got a second season, too. I'm in the small minority of people that appreciated the first season and I want to see what comes next.
     
  11. Unlucky 13

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    I made it to episode four of season one of Stranger Things, and it was too much full-on horror in my book, so I stopped watching. Everyone was making it out to be some fun 80s show like The Goonies, and hell no it was not. I noped out and didn't look back.
     
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  12. OwesOwn614

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    Respect. It was always an adult mix of horror and Goonies-style retro kid adventure. It became kind of a parody of itself by the end of season 2 and most ardent fans were less than optimistic about season 4. They dropped 90% of the fun stuff and went straight toward Freddy Krueger/Jason/Michael Myers-style violence, if not quite that level of gore. If I had kids, there's no way I'd allow them to watch season 1, and season 4 is intense enough to scare most adults I know, IMO. I'll probably start watching it again in the next couple of days.

    Trust me when I say that if you stopped for the reasons you listed, you most definitely should not watch again because it's been upping the adult factor ever since (not nudity, but violence and disturbing themes).
     
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    Yeah, I want no part of any of it. Its difficult for me to even understand how people enjoy that stuff, but to each their own.
     
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    BTW: I'm also watching season 4 of The Orville. It's a shame that Seth McFarlane's Star Trek homage series is the best show at embracing the original's spirit than everything that followed. Yeah, it's almost as much comedy as it is space drama, but it goes out of its way to make you (a)laugh, (b)think, and (c)uncomfortable. I wish more people appreciated it.
     
  15. Unlucky 13

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    I enjoyed the first season a lot. The second made me far too uncomfortable and I quit watching. It really changed tone and wasn't what I was interested in watching.
     
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    It's built its themes based on the second season. It's not political in tone, but it has no problem making you consider your stances on social issues. And it also does a great job of putting its characters through the wringer emotionally, and that might be the best thing about it.
     
  17. KeyFin

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    Wow, I completely get Goonies vibes from it. The first few seasons were pretty good, season three was okay and then season four was simply incredible. However, like others said, season 4 is a horror movie and Vecna is basically Freddie Kruger in the best possible way. I loved every minute of it.
     
  18. Unlucky 13

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    I found it to be incredibly dark, both in the theme/aesthetic, and literally as in hard to see due to low levels of light.

    Now, the show absolutely nailed the mid 80s in a small town to a tee. The look, the feel, was so on. Wynona Ryder's character could have been the mom of one of my friends, it was so true to life. But man, it just got really disturbing and hard to watch, and I couldn't do it. I just take no joy in anything in that direction.
     
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  19. OwesOwn614

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    I'm watching Paper Girls and The Old Man. Both are good, IMO. Paper Girls might not be everybody's cup of tea, but the four leads are good actors and their characters' plight is compelling. It has hard sci-fi concepts without the exposition most hard sci-fi projects use to explain themselves. Down to the last couple of episodes.

    The Old Man is surprisingly good because I don't know anyone else who is watching it. Jeff Bridges is fantastic, as always. It's amazing that the best shows on TV are all streaming. And it's not even close.
     
  20. djphinfan

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    Man the sopranos sucks

    When an overrated piece of garbage imo
     
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    What?
    You should be sleeping with da fishes for the remark.
     
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    I love ya buddy but that couldn't be more wrong. Bada Bing!
     
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    Agreed, I've read about 2/3rds of the 27 or 28 books in that series and a massive amount is based on brute force, tactical skills and intimidation.

    For a season based on avenging the death of his brother and destroying the corruption in a small town (which is basically what Killing Floor is about iirc) it was a good start to the series. They easily could have made that the conclusion for entertainment purposes but I'm glad they're keeping it sequential with the books they're going to use so far. If the rumors are correct, Bad Luck and Trouble will be what series 2 is based on in the 2nd half of 2023
     
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    That little blonde is rockin a hot little body.
     
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    I finished the third and final season of Lost In Space and enjoyed it. Due to real life issues with the pandemic, its not quite up to par with the first two seasons, unfortunately. But its still very professional and it feels like they worked hard to do the best that they could with more limited resources and such.

    Its a good show. Well acted, written, shot, and the first two seasons are on par with any mid tier Hollywood blockbuster movie in their look and scope. Its as high end as they come. The third is more of the level of a typical good TV show in its production quality.

    Now that I've finished that, I'm going to move onto the new season of The Dragon Prince.
     

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