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NFL Network Pundits AFC East Predictions

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Da 'Fins, Aug 15, 2013.

  1. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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  2. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    The key to FAs or even a draft pick's first year performance is scheme fit. Are you asking them to do the same thing they're already good at or are you asking them to learn and adapt their game? IMO it's too simplistic to say that any group of FAs is unlikely to come together in one year, but the media rarely goes beyond the simple sound byte in their analysis.
     
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  3. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    In the text they call out the O-line and Wallace. I see small concern with the O-line, and NO concern on Wallace. WTF are they reading? They're certainly not watching practices, etc. "Not buying the Dolphins hype" who is hyping them, besides some optimistic fans on these type boards?

    And for the record, F*** Rosenthal...he's always been an asshat.
     
  4. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    I don't want to overestimate what they can accomplish looking thru my aqua goggles,but Rosenthal is not buying into them for sure. But just look at his opinion from last year and you will feel mo' better.
     
  5. ATLFINFAN

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    I have been very reserved on my expectations so far and for the same reasons they have. It does seem to take time for a team to 'come together' as a team. I hope it works, but...............I am keeping my expectations in check. I don't mind the talking heads not expecting much either.
     
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  6. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Tough to fit nuance into a 15 second soundbite.
     
  7. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, but just like when you see/read an opinion that has obviously only superficial knowledge of a team or a sport, it provides guidance on how much credence (if any) you should give it.
     
  8. Gunner

    Gunner Rock Hunter

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    Without looking my guess is Heath Evans predicts a 4-12 for us :D
     
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  9. finwin

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    It's a tough first five games; And I don't think we have a good Dec but I'm thinking if they play with their heads and hold on to interceptions, we'll go 10-6

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  10. finwin

    finwin Active Member

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  11. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Totally agree.

    Doing dumb **** like signing Albert haynesworth then having him play out of position, for example, in a different scheme. Or drafting Glenn Dorsey and doing the same.
     
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  12. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Sadly, if the O-line underperforms it will drastically reduce Wallace's opportunities to catch deep balls and then the media will say Wallace didn't perform up to his contract. Truth may be that our LT and RG don't perform up to Wallace's contract.
     
  13. 72 Dolphins

    72 Dolphins New Member

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    The real truth may be that our dumb GM spent all this money on the offense and then traded up, dumped a pick, and didn't shore up the OL. Brilliant.
     
  14. P h i N s A N i T y

    P h i N s A N i T y My Porpoise in Life

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    The o-line already has been shored up...... Clabo makes for 3 pro-bowl caliber players... add a Promising young LT in Martin.... And we've basically got our panties In a bunch over injuries at RG, and impatience with a young player that struggled being switched around as a rookie. The GM would have been really dumb to move all the way up to #3 for Lane Johnson, stand pat for Fluker, or Trade for and pay Albert like your probably suggesting. I'll take his dumb over your smart.

    I know you guys expect rookies to arrive in their prime, but the line wasn't going to be shored for 2013 by adding rookies, and Jake Long was the best FA available, so.....

    Regardless we are most Definitley a much better team than last year overall. 8 wins easy.
     
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  15. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Was it dumb or brilliant? Or both. Or was one serious and one not?

    Kidding.

    Hey, the train has left the station. We're on the train. Let's hope the OL we have develops fast.
     
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  16. jboogie

    jboogie The sky is NOT falling!

    The media got all hyped up and burned the last 2 years on Philly then Buffalo with their offseason additions. They just don't want to look like fools again.......to late.
     
  17. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    I have no idea what to say if you think a LT is more important than a pass rusher.
     
  18. finwin

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    I'm not sure if you draft BPA versus need that early in the draft, or if Dion Jordan is better than lane Johnson.
    Jordan graded higher than Johnson but he didn't grade as high as Ansah.
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  19. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Depends on who is doing the grading... not taking anything away from Ziggy, but DJordan has abilities and potential that Ziggy never will have, so what the chart doesn't reflect is how the player will be used and whether he is a scheme fit for what our defense wants from him. No doubt they evaluated all DE/OLBs and went with who gave them the most potential.
     
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  20. jw3102

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    I just don't see the Dolphins going 3-2 over the first five games. I hope you are right, but I think they will go 1-4 over this stretch of games. I think they will lose both the Patriots games and they will go 3-1 or 2-2 against the Bills and Jets. I also think they will lose to the Bengals and Steelers. So I see them winning 6 or 7 games at most this season.

    I prefer your prediction to mine and I would love to see this team win 10 games this year. I just think that the offense is going to continue to struggle this year because of the inexperience at RB and a very mediocre offensive line. Tannehill still needs to show that he is the long term answer at the QB position for the Dolphins and to me, he still remains a huge question mark.
     
  21. finwin

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    If not for two dropped INT's we would have beat Indy last year. We are favored by 3 over the Browns. I think the worst we do is 2-3 to start out. This schedule against the AFC South and Central is tougher than last year's against the AFC West and NFC East but I believe we got swept by the East again dropping games we should have won against Dallas and the Giants. If this Offense performs just a tad better than last years, then I think 10-6 is possible. We have a cushion against the Pats, because it's not a give that we lose both of them. No telling what kind of team they are this year. I believe where we fall short against the Pats and some other teams is coaching.
     
  22. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    While I agree that the first 5 games are scary, IMO we're more talented than the Browns, Colts and Ravens. Those teams are good enough that they could beat us, but I wouldn't bet against Miami in those three. The other two games are against teams that are more talented than us, but we are good enough that we could beat those guys as well. My guess is that the most likely outcomes are 2-3 or 3-2.
     

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