If healthy he would be a great addition. We need to at least bring him in asap for a visit. Huge playmaker.
How could GB release him so late in FA? What a dick of a GM they have there. They'll never get an FAs to come there with that attitude.
Exactly, because Yeremiah Bell also failed his physical and ironically, his agent is also advising him not to play anymore. Wait, sorry. It was actually the opposite of that. My bad.
Who has a better chance of turning around their condition: Collins with a neck injury or Bell with serious case of the "old as hells"?
Point is the Packers just now gave Collins a physical. Had he passed, he'd still be there. If Green Bay wanted to be *****, they'd wait until after the draft to release him. They're actually playing this the best way possible. I wasn't even really that upset Bell was let go (though it did leave a huge void) it was just par for the course for Ireland to treat a team captain like that.
If healthy, I'd definitely be interested in Nick Collins. Very unfortunate injury last year as he was one of the top free safeties in the league.
The Packers are not big players in the FA market to begin with. They prefer to get their players through the draft. Collins obviously has an injury which leads the Packers to feel that he can no longer play. Therefore they let him go prior to the draft so they can try to fill his position with a player they may be able to select this weekend. I see absolutely nothing wrong with what the Packers did in releasing Collins. This is the way things are done in the NFL and if Collins is cleared to play next year by another team and he decides to continue his career, he is now free to sign with any team which might want to sign him.
There is a GB connection on the staff so if he is a possibility we should have a good bead on him.Medical staffs have been wrong before ....see Dolphin medical staff examining Drew Brees and giving him a bad outlook and Mc Intosh ,OL traded from SD whose injury was overlooked by the staff.
Like he's been the only player released since Bell. There have been lots of players released since then. Stitches is just making fun of how stupid that argument was back when Bell was released.
Were those players specifically held onto until rival teams signed other players before being released? Were the players agents lied to by GM's? (not to mention a BS line about him being important the week before) It wasn't a stupid argument. It was IRISH being IRISH.
It is a CAREER INJURY GUYS! He is done, it is to bad bacause he was a heck of a good player while healthy.
That happens all the time. It's naive to think Ireland is the only one. It just gets hyped by the media like everything has since the whole Harbaugh fiasco.
If this was even remotely true then I commend Ireland for having the balls to do it!! ^^^^ how Bell or his agent feel about it!
Oh, it's true. Not sure not giving a **** about how players and agents feel about things is the best way to go about being a GM, though. Although I guess it's worked for Ireland so far. Wait...sorry, I did it again. Reverse that.
Even without this situation, how many players have hinted around that Ireland had something to do with them not wanting to come to Miami?? I'm sure it takes a real prick for guys to go out of their way to call him out like that.
Why because no one will ever want to play for him again? lmao!! It's a buisiness and if not for the patience of the Miami Dolphins, Bell's often injured butt would have never made a dime in the NFL. You have no idea how it went about. Nor do I but I damn sure hope that's exactly what they would do!
I don't care if he is a prick. I care about how he does with the NFL Draft. If he continues at this pace, he'll be on the streets but I damn sure don't mind if he waited to release a player so he would not got to a rival team and I'm damn sure, if it is true, that Jeff Ireland was not the first one to ever do it.......
Names, please??? Also, whether they are now gainfully employed in the NFL, and at what level. And, whether or not other teams were salivating to compete in bidding for those particular players. Just "how many" are 'how many'? Or is that a indeterminate number, like "Some" - as in somewhere between 3 and 48 Gazillion?
Whoa, hold up... Calm down gents, IDC about how he treated Bell...I do on the other hand recognize that he is a turnoff for FA and has been involved in some horrific drafts and some terrible decsion making. Noone with a straight face can say Ireland has done a good job. And yes, it matters a HUGE deal if FA dont like him...Free Agency is basically like recruiting!? If people dont like him they will take their talents elsewhere. Thats a problem.
C'mon dude. Bell would've played somewhere and made money. The guy went to a Pro Bowl, so I'm sure SOMEONE would've given him a look, if not Miami. Hell, he may have gotten to play sooner somewhere else, as I don't think he became a starter until 2007. And, no. That's not how you do things. You don't lie to his agent. That's business, sure, BAD BUSINESS. And guess what? Bell is meeting with the Jets this week anyway, so Ireland's sneaky little plan may have been for naught. All it did was likely cost Bell some money since New York already paid quite a bit for LaRon Landry. I'll repeat something I've said on this site several times, if you're a dick AND YOU PUT TOGETHER A WINNING FOOTBALL TEAM, by all means, continue to be a dick. It's working for you, and I'll approve. Hell, I encourage dickishness (totally a word) in sports when it works in your favor. But to act like a dick for no other reason than to act like a dick AND you're a ****ty GM with a team record of 20-28 the last three years? GTFO.
I'm calm as it gets and even stated that if Ireland keeps going he'll be on the streets. As for FA's not wanting to come here, I highly doubt it! Money is key, not Ireland's personallity. BUT to be fair to the man, I've herd a lot of people say he was a very good guy. I think it lands somewhere in the middle though. I'm not going to take a former player like Channing Crowders word as gospel because he is a person with a very loud mouth.
Yes it is how many teams do things and have done so for years! I don't care if he makes another dime in the NFL once he is gone from here. If Ireland wanted to wait to release him because he did not want Bell giving a rival team any kind of information, I'm more than ok with it. How many times have we seen the Dolphins do the right thing? Only to see it come back to haunt them? Did you also stop to think that maybe Ireland was hoping that he might be able to resign Bell after a while? If he needs him....
exactly it's a good thing he didn't let him go to the jets man, if your so high on bell why would you want him going to a rival. I think everyone is just looking for another thing to ***** about when it comes to Ireland. You don't think GMs are going to plan their moves so maybe a player doesn't go to a rival? who cares. And you really think other players are going to think about Bells situation before they come here, it's all about money and I bet a majority of the players don't even know this went down, it's just us fans
No, Bell wanted to stay. Ireland told Rosenhaus Bell was key to their plans. Then he releases him. There was never a contract offer to re-sign. If you're so high on Bell, maybe don't cut him?
Do you really think that Drew Rosenhaus doesn't lie to NFL teams? And not cutting Bell right away cost the Jets money, which is the important thing here. They probably don't sign Landry if they knew Bell would be available.
Go ahead and believe what the players agent says. I don't mind but I did hear Drew say he and Ireland have talked since Bells release and he said that the two of them are fine and still in good standing...FACT
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/spo...g/2012/03/ireland_says_to_let_the_proces.html He said he didn't plan to cut him. Then he did plan to cut him.
So that makes him a lier? lmao! C'mon man! If you don't like Ireland you should'nt need to jump to a conclusion like this to show it. Just say you wish they'd cut his (_)_) too....
You're right, I hadn't considered that telling someone you're not going to do something and then doing it anyway wasn't lying. "Hey, I'm not gonna fire you." *Next Week* "You're fired!" "Hey, you said you weren't gonna fire me. You lied! "Nope. I didn't lie."
*sniff sniff* I smell a crap load of naivety. Funny how folks weren't concerned when he did that with Gibril Wilson and then cut his ***. GM's do this ALL the time. To pick Ireland out for it..well there's 31 other GM's you better be complaining about to then. They all do it.
