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No Leadership - Agree or Disagree?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Bpk, Sep 14, 2014.

  1. ASOT

    ASOT New Member

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    Problem is they don't see the games, because their heads are so far in the ground.....well you get the picture.
     
  2. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    From a pure talent standpoint, there is/was not much difference between Tannehill and Harrington. Harrington got beat to sh!t behind the Lions awful line and by the time we got him he was shell shocked.

    Philbin is nowhere remotely close to as bad as you make him out to be. On some topics you are informative and interesting. When it comes to Philbin though you turn completely irrational.
     
  3. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Philbin is really that bad and people are coming around to the reality.

    It's not really even a "leadership" skills thing when Philbin really doesn't have anything in the way of skills to recommend him.
     
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  4. padre31

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    It is always the route Jaj, some routes THill can nail, others he just stinks at nailing.

    Wallace was open deep, THill flubbed it, as per usual
     
  5. Sceeto

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    LOL!!!! Yeah, this was on Philbin. LOL!!!
     
  6. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Joe Philbin has had questionable calls that should not be attributed to anyone but the head coach in both games.

    Today was a great example heading into halftime with 2 minutes left. He made the call to run out the clock instead of using any of his three timeouts. They had good enough field position to try and get into field goal range. He was just a big fat ***** about it.
     
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  7. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    If you place this loss on Philbin, then you are being obtuse.
     
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  8. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    They're all running the same route tree. Tannehill hits the other guys no problem.
     
  9. Kingtut561

    Kingtut561 New Member

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    From sugar, too crap. Just like that.
     
  10. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Seriously, 2:21 left in the game and you've got all three timeouts. You're down 9-0.

    You run the football three straight times without taking any of your timeouts. Oh but then you got a 1st down with those runs? Well, I guess we gotta run three more times.

    I'm not even sure I have seen that with 2:21 left in an NFL game.

    It was a total wuss move from a terrible head coach.
     
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  11. Anonymous

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    I liked the call to run it in at halftime. ***** move but look at the QB. Can't trust him. It was the right call, IMO.
     
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  12. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 Rosen's Roughnecks Club Member

    No excuse...no excuse whatsoever for looking like the biggest pu**y head coach in the league. Then he said after the game, "well we only had 40 yards of offense at that point."

    Just makes it worse...coward.
     
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  13. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You're wildly oversimplifying my point, but when you show a strong, repeatedly track record of dramatically getting your asses kicked against what are frequently mediocre teams after a big win, you should be able to put a pretty fine point on things.
     
  14. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Shouldn't your leader be your 8th pick in the draft from 3 years ago??

    I'm sick of the naive apologists in regards to Tannehill...watch a GD game and tell me you see a franchise QB.
     
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  15. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 Rosen's Roughnecks Club Member

    If that's the case...pull him. But you don't go out like a completely whipped b**** like that.

    Pathetic.
     
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  16. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if your serious... but Philbin is hugely responsible.
    He showed absolutely no confidence in his players with 3 mins and 3 timeouts left... He figured they were more likely to cost his team points than they were to do their job and score points.

    If your own coach expects you to fail... how do you find confidence in yourself? That's terrible leadership!! You don't think the players pick up on that? you don't think the players by nature wanted to try and score?
     
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  17. Dolphans Unite!

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    I'm not sure Philbin has the confidence in his quarterback not to put the team in a bad situation there.

    Imagine if the team gets risky and there's a pick, or a sack fumble, and then Buffalo scores again before the half. What is the mood then?
     
  18. Dolphans Unite!

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    And the players had done what to that point to inspire such confidence?
     
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  19. ckparrothead

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    If he gave me that explanation I would have fired him on the spot.
     
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  20. Anonymous

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    You don't pull him because he's struggling. You've invested 2 years into him. You will live and die with him. Pack it in and adjust at half time. Don't give him the chance to make it worse. It was the right move. Too many just love to blame coaching because they just don't want to admit Tannehill might not be be playing very good.
     
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  21. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 Rosen's Roughnecks Club Member

    He did...saw it on twitter from the beat guys.

    Andrew Abramson ‏@AbramsonPBP 43m
    Philbin on running out first half clock: we got ball at 15, only had 40 yards of offense at that point.
     
  22. Dolphans Unite!

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    It was completely a statement about the quarterbacking.

    Do you think Joe Philbin would've endorsed a pack it in approach with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback?
     
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  23. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    So your saying they should have run the ball every single snap in the second half as well? The team can't change personnel at half time.

    They have to score the ball and you have to find confidence in them... two minute drill was as good a time as any. Defenses usually play a little softer defending 2 minute situations as well.
     
  24. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    Were talking Hayden Panetierre fat here
     
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  25. Anonymous

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    That's my point. We wouldn't have even been in that position with quality QB play. Tannehill is ****ing up. That's just the truth. Only 2 games, though.
     
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  26. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 Rosen's Roughnecks Club Member

    A deep pick is nothing but a punt...better than quitting on your players...take a few mid-short shots and get out of bounds, a run here and there is OK, but move forward...don't just give it up.

    If you can't call/run a 2 minute offense when the PERFECT situation is there to do it...somebody needs to go.
     
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  27. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    So you don't take a chance because he sucks. But you also don't pull him? Makes no sense. Our coach is a coward.

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  28. Disgustipate

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    That's not living and dying with him. That's folding up into a fetal position and hoping you don't get your teeth kicked in because you weren't prepared for the game.

    Tannehill wasn't throwing interceptions, that's not an excuse. Try to ****ing score, jesus.
     
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  29. Dolphans Unite!

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    How about a sack fumble? How does that sit with everyone?
     
  30. Anonymous

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    You don't take a chance because he was struggling. When things go bad for Tannehill, they go really bad. Sack fumble for a touchdown bad. You go into half time and regroup. It doesn't look good but it's best for the team to be conservative when your offense is playing like complete ****.
     
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  31. jdang307

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    Might as well just not play Sunday. Forfeit. Or hand it off 70 times a game.
     
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  32. Anonymous

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    Not pulling him when he's playing like horse **** for two straight weeks is living and dying with him. You don't risk going for a field goal with the way he was playing. You go into half time and adjust.
     
  33. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 Rosen's Roughnecks Club Member

    No possible way to know...how's that a good argument? Hell, if that's the case...why play at all?
     
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  34. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You're giving the coaching staff credit for something that is a given.

    Benching Tannehill would be a pretty Philbin move, though.
     
  35. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    You sound just like Philbin. That's not a good thing either.

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  36. Anonymous

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    I'm not sure what you're saying here. What is a given?
     
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  37. Anonymous

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    This post sucks.
     
  38. Dolphans Unite!

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    Not every drive is one just before the half, deep in your own territory, after your quarterback has played poorly.
     
  39. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 Rosen's Roughnecks Club Member

    Only one way to know...and Philbin removed it.
     
  40. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    And he was right to remove it and try to instill some confidence in the line to run the ball after Lazor emasculated them for a full half, and prevent a pick 6 at the end of the half or a strip sack. That was probably the best offensive coaching Phins had all game today.
     
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