No Leadership - Agree or Disagree?

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DODolphans Unite!New Member
Sep 14, 2014, 04:17 PM

"Jaj wrote:

I think they are trying to just not admit the obvious with the painful possibility that Tannehill just isn't good enough. I can't say he's a bust but he's a guy that will hover around 80-85 QB rating. He's like a 70 rating QB from early 00s era. That just isn't enough. The good thing I'll say about this team is that the holes on the team are fixable. STs, injuries, and a few positions perhaps at LB and a S being out. That's not that bad. The biggest problem by far is the QB.

In today's game that's a bust.

vt_dolfanvt_dolfansubscriber
Sep 14, 2014, 04:18 PM

Ok Shou..weve heard enough..crawl back to your room now

"The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning"
Pele

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Sep 14, 2014, 04:19 PM

To me the game changer was Moreno... if Moreno stays, we are more competitive...

padre31padre31luxury_box
Sep 14, 2014, 04:23 PM

"rdhstlr23 wrote:

It's not poor leadership. It's poor quarterbacking. How that isn't apparent to Dolphins fans by now is seriously concerning.

ST's had a huge hand in this loss, -13 pts...-13..pts

If I were Rizzi, I'd avoid pepperoni for the next week as the stomach upset it will cause will be epic

padre31padre31luxury_box
Sep 14, 2014, 04:23 PM

"rdhstlr23 wrote:

I mean I can't stand Philbin and want him gone but the QB sucks.

Waaay to inconsistent, Tannehill to me is floundering in the new system

DODolphans Unite!New Member
Sep 14, 2014, 04:25 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Waaay to inconsistent, Tannehill to me is floundering in the new system

I think it's probably time to start wondering if Mike Sherman's system was dumbed down to suit Tannehill's ability.

SceetoSceetoforum_veteran
Sep 14, 2014, 04:25 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Waaay to inconsistent, Tannehill to me is floundering in the new system

It's not the system Pads. He's just not a good enough QB.

FameFameforum_veteran
Sep 14, 2014, 04:26 PM

I screamed at the TV when Philbin intentionally wasted 3 minutes and 3 timeouts. He doesn't play to win, he just plays not to lose big. There is absolutely no chance of making the playoffs with a gutless head coach.

DisgustipateDisgustipatesubscriber
Sep 14, 2014, 04:30 PM

There's a repeated pattern of this team embarrassing itself badly after any degree of success. If they win a bad game, it doesn't matter who or where they're playing, there is a very good chance they come out and misfire totally.

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Sep 14, 2014, 04:31 PM

"rdhstlr23 wrote:

I mean I can't stand Philbin and want him gone but the QB sucks.

Tannehill is a far worse QB than Philbin is a head coach.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

DisgustipateDisgustipatesubscriber
Sep 14, 2014, 04:32 PM

"MrClean wrote:

Tannehill is a far worse QB than Philbin is a head coach.

What you're describing is if like Joey Harrington had a stroke and multiple amputations.

JajJajNew Member
Sep 14, 2014, 04:34 PM

He reminds me of a stronger armed Jay Fiedler without the moxie. Wait... Then again Fiedler could hit the deep ball to Chambers.

Bring this man back into the fold if you want some real leadership on this team.

PhinFan1968PhinFan1968subscriber
Sep 14, 2014, 04:35 PM

"Bpk wrote:

First off, I'm pissed.

Just watched our Head Coach decide that a two minute drill with 3 timeouts is not worth trying to score on. So take that into account when reading this..

WE HAVE NO LEADERSHIP AT THE TOP.

Add Tannehill looking like a deer in headlights and I'm convinced that other than guys like Wake, and Moreno, this team lacks a leader with self-beleif, conviction, and relentlessness.

I'm not watching the rest of this game. I can't stomach it.

How bout you... you think we have true leadership on this team?

I'm trying VERY hard not to change his name to Phailbin...REALLY hard.

Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”

:rimshot:

PhinFan1968PhinFan1968subscriber
Sep 14, 2014, 04:37 PM

You can't just tuck your tail 9 points down when you have 3 minutes, timeouts, and the ball.....that is just plain BULLSH*T...no excuse will suffice...self-defeating cowardice.

Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”

:rimshot:

ASOTASOTNew Member
Sep 14, 2014, 04:39 PM

"Bpk wrote:

First off, I'm pissed.

Just watched our Head Coach decide that a two minute drill with 3 timeouts is not worth trying to score on. So take that into account when reading this..

WE HAVE NO LEADERSHIP AT THE TOP.

Add Tannehill looking like a deer in headlights and I'm convinced that other than guys like Wake, and Moreno, this team lacks a leader with self-beleif, conviction, and relentlessness.

I'm not watching the rest of this game. I can't stomach it.

How bout you... you think we have true leadership on this team?

I was speechless and livid when Philbin did that......it was Cam Cameron like kind of idiotness.

ASOTASOTNew Member
Sep 14, 2014, 04:41 PM

"rdhstlr23 wrote:

It's not poor leadership. It's poor quarterbacking. How that isn't apparent to Dolphins fans by now is seriously concerning.

Problem is they don't see the games, because their heads are so far in the ground.....well you get the picture.

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Sep 14, 2014, 04:42 PM

"Disgustipate wrote:

What you're describing is if like Joey Harrington had a stroke and multiple amputations.

From a pure talent standpoint, there is/was not much difference between Tannehill and Harrington. Harrington got beat to sh!t behind the Lions awful line and by the time we got him he was shell shocked.

Philbin is nowhere remotely close to as bad as you make him out to be. On some topics you are informative and interesting. When it comes to Philbin though you turn completely irrational.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

DisgustipateDisgustipatesubscriber
Sep 14, 2014, 04:47 PM

"MrClean wrote:

Philbin is nowhere remotely close to as bad as you make him out to be. On some topics you are informative and interesting. When it comes to Philbin though you turn completely irrational.

Philbin is really that bad and people are coming around to the reality.

It's not really even a "leadership" skills thing when Philbin really doesn't have anything in the way of skills to recommend him.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Sep 14, 2014, 04:49 PM

"Jaj wrote:

For some reason Tannehill can hit Hartline deep but nobody else.

It is always the route Jaj, some routes THill can nail, others he just stinks at nailing.

Wallace was open deep, THill flubbed it, as per usual

SceetoSceetoforum_veteran
Sep 14, 2014, 04:50 PM

LOL!!!! Yeah, this was on Philbin. LOL!!!

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Sep 14, 2014, 04:58 PM

Joe Philbin has had questionable calls that should not be attributed to anyone but the head coach in both games.

Today was a great example heading into halftime with 2 minutes left. He made the call to run out the clock instead of using any of his three timeouts. They had good enough field position to try and get into field goal range. He was just a big fat ***** about it.

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MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Sep 14, 2014, 04:58 PM

"Disgustipate wrote:

Philbin is really that bad and people are coming around to the reality.

It's not really even a "leadership" skills thing when Philbin really doesn't have anything in the way of skills to recommend him.

If you place this loss on Philbin, then you are being obtuse.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

DisgustipateDisgustipatesubscriber
Sep 14, 2014, 05:00 PM

"padre31 wrote:

It is always the route Jaj, some routes THill can nail, others he just stinks at nailing.

Wallace was open deep, THill flubbed it, as per usual

They're all running the same route tree. Tannehill hits the other guys no problem.

KIKingtut561New Member
Sep 14, 2014, 05:00 PM

From sugar, too crap. Just like that.

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Sep 14, 2014, 05:01 PM

Seriously, 2:21 left in the game and you've got all three timeouts. You're down 9-0.

You run the football three straight times without taking any of your timeouts. Oh but then you got a 1st down with those runs? Well, I guess we gotta run three more times.

I'm not even sure I have seen that with 2:21 left in an NFL game.

It was a total wuss move from a terrible head coach.

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