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If everyone can be patient with him, I think that he has a really high ceiling.
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I hope so, he’ll have to earn every snap he gets.
This team is so deep at corner. Needham was lights out in the slot the last 9 game or so.
Add Coleman to the mix (brass obviously like him), who had decent slot numbers with the terrible Lions secondary.Unlucky 13 likes this. -
The team will obviously be in the nickel a whole lot, and probably in the dime a good bit too, so he'll have plenty of chances to show he belongs. To me, ideally he replaced Needham by 2022, and then one of the expensive guys in 2023.
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The direction this league is going I mean shoot out of the top 10 picks, probably 4 qb’s an OL or 2 3 receivers and maybe a cb or LB? Tells you a lot. We can’t have enough good corners.
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I still think he ends up starting at safety for us. Not because he cant play CB or the slot, but because his skillset will make him a really amazing safety. His strength will match up well there and his athleticism will let him dominate over the top.
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If there is some slight conjecture of a hint of a possible intercranial debility I would have to pass on that for the young man's sake, and hope that someone [if this is more than conjecture] might give the young man some sound advice on the subject? All the money in the world will not make up for a mind too debilitated to enjoy it!
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There will undoubtedly be players who were drafted after him who have better careers. That's the nature of the game. But it's beyond presumptious for fans and writers to assume that their opinions and draft grades are better than those of entire staffs comprising people whose jobs depend on them getting it right.KeyFin and Dol-Fan Dupree like this. -
If you are only expecting them to develop into a starting caliber player 2-3 years down the line as seems to be the case with Iggy, then they should not be picked in the first round. Simple as that. -
It's the same thing that happened with Charles Harris for example. I and several YouTube draft analysts said Harris was a bust waiting to happen before the draft, yet the dolphins with all their scouting resources fell in love with his twitchy get off, good bend and nice spin move, while ignoring his lack of strength, speed and production.
If NFL scouts and GMs didn't get it wrong so often, then you would be right to criticize fans and draftniks for thinking they know better, but the results show that most NFL scouting departments don't do any better of a job at evaluating players than weekend draftniks do. -
You're entitled to your opinion and I'm certainly not saying that you're wrong to hold it. But I'm not the one to believe that I know more than you or people who are paid to gather information and make decisions that affect their careers.
With that being said, some people are horrible at their job and over the past 20 years, the Dolphins have employed more than their fair share. Your skepticism is a Dolphins fan's birthright. But I understand the Igbinoghene selection even though it was a head scratcher for me at the time.
There's a reason why redraft exercises are fun and that's because even the best GMs and scouting departments get it wrong. I respectfully submit that you and I wouldn't do much better, even with their resources.Dol-Fan Dupree likes this. -
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And yes, Iggy will most likely have to stick to slot duties or move to safety, since he doesn't have the top end speed to play boundary in this league for any team that wants to play man coverage.Last edited: May 29, 2021 -
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https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/meet-the-prospect-xavien-howard-17028158
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports...-nfl-draft-bio-boxes-0430-20160429-story.html
He ran 4.41 at his pro day. He was not 100% at the scouting combine so the 4.58 he ran there is erroneous. -
Either way, if you watch his interview with Cris Collinsworth and Richard Sherman, Howard goes out of his way to explain how being a good press corner can cover a lot of what you lack in speed through technique off the LOS.
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Richard Sherman gets away with being slow because he plays in the Seattle zone scheme, if ha had to play in a man heavy scheme he would not be anywhere near as successful. If you look at all the top CBs in modern NFL history, they have all been low 4.4 or faster. Out of the 22 starting positions in football, boundary cornerback is the position where speed is most important in order to be successful. If you are slow, then only the right scheme will help you against speedy NFL receivers. Pressing a guy at the line and holding is not going to cut it, eventually your receiver will get in stride and if you don't have good speed to keep up you are going to get torched often, which is exactly what happened to Noah last year.
And no, Noah was not a victim of bad calls in college. If you watch film on him (which I don't think you have obviously) he actually got away with constant grabbing anytime a receiver started to pull away from him. He won't get away with that in the NFL.Last edited: May 29, 2021 -
https://www.zybeksports.com/40-yard-dilemma-athletes-run-faster-pro-days-nfl-scouting-combine/
I also said nothing about Richard Sherman's play as a cornerback. I said something about Xavien Howard being on Richard Sherman's and Cris Collingsworth's podcast, though, and discussing how he plays extremely fast receivers. It's not by matching them with speed either. I'm not saying being fast is inconsequential, but it's not the end-all, be-all. Iggy is plenty fast to play boundary corner in the NFL if he hones his press skills which he's absolutely built himself up to do.
I've watched his college tape. You can't teach aggressiveness, the better option is to have a guy have it and try to reign it in from there when he gets to the NFL. He was also starting in his 2nd full year at the position on an SEC defense, for a program with a reputation of putting out really good defenses. They clearly saw something there.
You built a soapbox industry on writing a whole player off based on the most volatile year of their professional football career. So brave. I'm sure you'll be back when he puts out a good year in the near future? Or will you have moved on to the next confirmation bias case at that point?Last edited: May 29, 2021 -
What I do know is that he should not have been picked in the first round and we passed on a lot better players to reach on a project slot corner.