Not much good and lots of ugly

"LBsFinest wrote:

Jonathan Martin looked terrible, I think taking him in the 2nd round over a WR was a mistake. Lydon Murtha is probably better at this point.

Calling it a learning experience. He was not as the world turns Colombo.

"His'nBeatYour'n wrote:

There are not many things more predictable than preseason overreaction.

At some point during week 1 of the regular season, players and teams play so fundamentally different than they did through the preseason, that we smack ourselves in the head for overreacting all August long. Some apparently smack themselves so hard that come the following August they don't remember week 1 from the previous year.

Preseason doesn't matter, never has, never will. But it is Kinda-Football, and we miss Football. Just don't overreact.

I would say that maybe a poor attendance on top of a lackluster performance by the first teams, particularily the defense, left a sour taste in the mouth. Tannehill was sweetner for the night in an otherwise sour experience.

In the third preseason game if Chad and Nanee don't show up and Davis and Smith are playing like they did tonight then it will be worry time. Honestly, I prefer to start Tannehill, with most of the young receiver corp. That is just my preference.

Remember how good our first team offense looked last year in the first preseason game???

Offense was fine. So long as they continue to improve and adapt. Very excited about Tannehill. The defense was a big let down. Defenses are always further along that the O in the early goings. This was a piss-poor performance and needs to get better.

And I wonder if Danny Thomas even makes the team.

And it has begun.

You guys realize defense is always a step behind in preseason because it's intentionally vanilla right?

"LBsFinest wrote:

Jonathan Martin looked terrible, I think taking him in the 2nd round over a WR was a mistake. Lydon Murtha is probably better at this point.

Well Jonathan Martin has played just one professional game, so you may be on to something.

"LBsFinest wrote:

Jonathan Martin looked terrible, I think taking him in the 2nd round over a WR was a mistake. Lydon Murtha is probably better at this point.

Yes, any 2nd rounder who doesn't play like a Pro Bowler in the first preseason game of their rookie season should be cut.

"Stringer Bell wrote:

Remember how good our first team offense looked last year in the first preseason game???

Nope. All I remember is 99% of the posts were about if one particular int was Henne's fault or not.

Im worrying because today many weaknesses were exposed and we need to fix them quickly. The first few weeks of the season we have an easy schedule (Except week 1 of course) so we need to start strong if we want to make noise. Sure it is only week 1 of preseason but I saw too many issues that we need to fix in a few weeks

"PhinGeneral wrote:

I don't have a problem with that throw. I thought Tannehill put the ball in a good spot. Wallace needs to come up with that.

Yup, reminded me of Brett Favre. Perfect throw IMO.

I will say that Wilson's botched interception was horrific, CB or otherwise. I hate to sound cliche' but c'mon, man!

Philosophically I wonder if you go younger or older or a combo. This has nothing to do with the preseason game. I think it has more to do with the Garrard injury. It is a huge circumstance that could lead to a more youthful direction. Problem is you have some guys in their prime like Starks, Soliai, Dansby, and Burnett. I really don't like what I see in the secondary. I hope Vontae and Sean plan on showing up this year.

There is just part of me that says blow it up and start over with the younger guys and keep adding pieces. Build around Tannehill and don't waste time on Moore or a guy like Garrard. I have done a complete turn away from all the sit Tannehill and cook him slow position.

"KingMotion wrote:

Cam Newton was utter **** in the 2011 pre-season. The year the Lions went 0-16, they were 4-0 in the pre-season.

Weren't the Colts traditionally bad during the pre-season during Manning's tenure as well? I think they were.

"BlameItOnTheHenne wrote:

Weren't the Colts traditionally bad during the pre-season during Manning's tenure as well? I think they were.

The Dallas Cowboy dynasty went like 0 for for three years in the preseason.

"KingMotion wrote:

They were remarkably bad. Good teams use these games for evaluation, concept installation, and situational coaching rather than wins.

And what do bad teams use the games for? A display of mediocrity?

I don't think there's anything that people need to be reacting this negatively about. I don't believe in writing everything off in preseason with "it's only preseason" but there's really nothing that was that bad that people need to be gnashing their teeth or alternately, making excuses for.

CANEPHINS wrote:

He lets the WR get behind him on the big pass play, that Wilson should have intercepted. Smith totally got beat on that play, which let the WR get in position to make a play. A play that Wilson should have won, but he didn't and his inexperience at S is showing

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/0ap2000000048622/Orlovsky-44-yard-pass

I don't see where you're getting that at all. Sean Smith was in a position to absolutely get his hands on the ball, and I don't see how Wilson's issue was a safety thing. He had to break on plays on balls thrown in front of him at cornerback, too.

LBsfinest wrote:

Jonathan Martin looked terrible, I think taking him in the 2nd round over a WR was a mistake. Lydon Murtha is probably better at this point.

I was going to give a serious response to this, then I saw who posted it.

Well, we sucked.

The result doesn't count, but it seems that for the last decade when we saw weaknesses in the preseason,
we saw the same weaknesses when the games counted.....

Wow some seem to be jumping to season conclusions after pre season game1!!

Don't get me wrong i was as disappointed in the
teams performance as the next guy. Let's give the new coach a little bit to get them in shape.

Positive note, Tanny definitely had the most talent of any of our qbs since you know who! Let's hope he can put it all together!

"Lloyd Heilbrunn wrote:

Well, we sucked.

The result doesn't count, but it seems that for the last decade when we saw weaknesses in the preseason,
we saw the same weaknesses when the games counted.....

I don't think this is true either. There are loads of examples of both units and individuals playing well and then sucking in the regular season, and the reverse. For literally the entire decade. Ricky Williams having literally like 30 yards on 20 carries his first pre-season here, dozens of later round guys from JR Tolver to Lex Hilliard lighting pre-season up to Chad Henne kicking ass last year.

Look at an individual player, what they're asking to do, but you need to be clear what the circumstances are.

Sean Smith missed tackles? I really doubt that, after all he did go to Deion Sanders school of tackling.

"Disgustipate wrote:

I don't think this is true either. There are loads of examples of both units and individuals playing well and then sucking in the regular season, and the reverse. For literally the entire decade. Ricky Williams having literally like 30 yards on 20 carries his first pre-season here, dozens of later round guys from JR Tolver to Lex Hilliard lighting pre-season up to Chad Henne kicking ass last year.

Look at an individual player, what they're asking to do, but you need to be clear what the circumstances are.

When we had no downfield passing game in the preseason with Fiedler we heard "They are not on the same page yet"

When we can't cover a TE in the preseason for a half dozen years we heard "We are not game planning"

When we could not pass protect last preseason, I forget that excuse, but there was one.

I think the weaknesses do show up.