Notes: Crowder probably out for Browns game
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Dolphins ILBer Channing Crowder is sitting out his third straight practice because of a knee injury. Tim Dobbins likely starts Sunday
Delhomme was also named the starter for the Browns game.
gilv13Forum VeteranThe Delhomme news makes me happy.
this fo doesn't like players that don't/can't play due to injury and we've seen them ship guys out that maybe should've stayed due to injury's.it really sucks that we just resigned this guy and our d is much improved with him in but he is rarely "in" anymore.i can only dream of how good we can be once we replace him with quality talent.love the guys attitude ut when your pedelin your arse on a stationary bike you are not helping us win.
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Dolphins CB Al Harris, who strained a hamstring yesterday, is not practicing today
Not to worried, Harris is a vet he will have himself ready on Sunday.
djphinfanSupporterupgrading the insidebacker position is in my top 4 priorities this offseason....free agent signing.
padre31Luxury BoxWell now the JD Folsom resigning makes sense, he will play Nickel ILB if needed as Dansby and Dobbins will be on the field most of the time, if you have to sub either one Folsom comes into the game..all 230 pds of blue twisted steel!
Glad Reshad Jones will be back and active as we need all the help we can get containing Hillis.
Nappy RootsForum VeteranDobbins played great last week! Hopefully he plays like that again
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KillerphinsNew Member"djphinfan wrote:
upgrading the insidebacker position is in my top 4 priorities this offseason....free agent signing.
Crowder supporters don't understand what it would be like to have a true starting caliber LB on the inside next to Dansby.
Did Channing get better in there with Karlos? Nope it just further exposed his mediocrity. I harp on his play all the time and how badly ineffective he is but I never touch on his inability to stay on the field. How can you miss his zero tackles. :lol:
Yes, yes and yes it is time to upgrade the position and remove the dead weight.
djphinfanSupporter"Killerphins wrote:
Crowder supporters don't understand what it would be like to have a true starting caliber LB on the inside next to Dansby.
Did Channing get better in there with Karlos? Nope it just further exposed his mediocrity. I harp on his play all the time and how badly ineffective he is but I never touch on his inability to stay on the field. How can you miss his zero tackles. :lol:Yes, yes and yes it is time to upgrade the position and remove the dead weight.
bro, you see below my avatar where it says how long ive been here?, thats how long ive been on his ass...thank goodness we have a Dcordinator that recognized getting his stiffness off the field on third down.
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#Dolphins Benny Sapp, one of the DBs with the dropsies, stays after practice to work with the Juggs machine.
Hmm, there should be a line, Sean Smith, Chris Clemons, I'm looking at you two...
David Harris anyone?
Dol-Fan DupreeForum Veteran"Killerphins wrote:
Crowder supporters don't understand what it would be like to have a true starting caliber LB on the inside next to Dansby.
Did Channing get better in there with Karlos? Nope it just further exposed his mediocrity. I harp on his play all the time and how badly ineffective he is but I never touch on his inability to stay on the field. How can you miss his zero tackles. :lol:Yes, yes and yes it is time to upgrade the position and remove the dead weight.
What Crowder detractors do not understand is that first there should be an upgrade on the team for their to be an upgrade for the team. They act like just saying something means that it is true without using logic or facts. They also seem to fail the concept of football being a team sport.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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KillerphinsNew Member"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
What Crowder detractors do not understand is that first there should be an upgrade on the team for their to be an upgrade for the team. They act like just saying something means that it is true without using logic or facts. They also seem to fail the concept of football being a team sport.
He is hurt again man. Why even have him on the team. Dobbins has gotten better and has passed up Channing. Crowder's days are numbered. Once he is replaced you will finally understand the difference. What about Channing getting better. That is all I've heard for five years. The only thing that is happenening with Crowder's game is he is getting older. Just because Omar Kelly squats on his sausage doesn't mean he is valuable. Zero tackles. How does one do that at the ILB position anyway. Like I said you could line up a chair and move it down the field for the same result.
padre31Luxury Box"godolphins wrote:
David Harris anyone?
No way the Jets let him walk.
Well, bit picture Al Harris being out with a hammy is more of a blow than Crowder in the nickel defense.
I thought we have Crowder's replacement already. He is sitting in IR right now... Edds...
Georgia FinForum VeteranNot like he added much since coming back other than a whole lot of chatter. No big loss.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
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No way the Jets let him walk.
Well, bit picture Al Harris being out with a hammy is more of a blow than Crowder in the nickel defense.
I don't think they'll be able to afford to keep him with Braylon, Holmes, Cromartie and Brad Smith set to become free agents.
Dol-Fan DupreeForum Veteran"Killerphins wrote:
He is hurt again man. Why even have him on the team. Dobbins has gotten better and has passed up Channing. Crowder's days are numbered. Once he is replaced you will finally understand the difference. What about Channing getting better. That is all I've heard for five years. The only thing that is happenening with Crowder's game is he is getting older. Just because Omar Kelly squats on his sausage doesn't mean he is valuable. Zero tackles. How does one do that at the ILB position anyway. Like I said you could line up a chair and move it down the field for the same result.
That is the thing, I do understand the difference. With his injury history and injuries this year I do expect him to be gone. Unlike some people I understand reality.
There is more to football than just stats. Stats do not always correlate to a good or bad game. Crowder was one of the reasons for one of the best defensive performances on sunday. Tackles are not even a official stat of the NFL. They are done through the team. A guy could do everything right and be the reason for a loss and not get any tackle credit for it. There isn't a stat for filling the hole and causing the runningback to not go in his hole.
People love saying Crowder sucks for the last five years, yet in the last five years when healthy Miami plays consistantly much better defense than when he isn't there.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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KillerphinsNew Member"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
That is the thing, I do understand the difference. With his injury history and injuries this year I do expect him to be gone. Unlike some people I understand reality.
There is more to football than just stats. Stats do not always correlate to a good or bad game. Crowder was one of the reasons for one of the best defensive performances on sunday. Tackles are not even a official stat of the NFL. They are done through the team. A guy could do everything right and be the reason for a loss and not get any tackle credit for it. There isn't a stat for filling the hole and causing the runningback to not go in his hole.
People love saying Crowder sucks for the last five years, yet in the last five years when healthy Miami plays consistantly much better defense than when he isn't there.
All I ever get is stats thrown at me when people are debating Crowder. He has so many tackles and he is great against the run and now you are going to tell me he is better because he had a game where he didn't make the stat sheet. Downright fuggin' comical. I love how you say a stat for filling holes. I see running backs every Sunday running to get out of a hole that Channing has filled. That is comical too. It is a good spin on Crowder picked the wrong hole.
The lack of awareness is even more apparent now that Dansby is beside him. I understand Channing's role but Jesus Christ Dupree not one single tackle. Hell for a while it was hard to tell if he was even in the game.
Keep it coming though 'cause you have me rolling. You got schooled the other day on JT now you're defending Crowder. I love player fans they are the most ridiculous of the lot. Go to the end of the earth defending garbage players because you bought their jersey or hand picked them to be your guy. Crowder is the weakest link in this defense. If we want to be elite we HAVE to upgrade.
BTW did you even watch the football game?
amazing how everyone is caught up in crowders injury history and that we should upgrade the position in the offseason...
The issue here is the only real threat we need to defend is hillis. Crowder is good at one thing. Run defense. NO one can sit here and say he isnt a huge lift to our run D. Once he came back we didn't allow much running.
Lets hope we don't miss him too much on Sunday. Dobbins plays ST so he could be tired and we need him at full stamina/strength to stop hillis.
OzzyLuxury Box"djphinfan wrote:
upgrading the insidebacker position is in my top 4 priorities this offseason....free agent signing.
We have one on injured reserve, and already have an excellent veteran inside. I'd rather they draft another YOUNG stud to play along side Dansby.
Unless of course they can someone land a Pat Willis... :)
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OzzyLuxury Box"Killerphins wrote:
You got schooled the other day on JT now you're defending Crowder. I love player fans they are the most ridiculous of the lot. Go to the end of the earth defending garbage players because you bought their jersey or hand picked them to be your guy. Crowder is the weakest link in this defense. If we want to be elite we HAVE to upgrade.
You have not schooled anyone on Jason Taylor. I hate his ass, and have NEVER been a players fan so you won't be putting me in that catagory. I have favorite players though. The ones wearing the uniform THIS year. Taylor is playing a limited role, which is what almost every single one of would have expected from him if he was here this year. But he is filling that role very very well for a 14 year vet.
Crowder is my least favorite Dolphin. I would love for them to upgrade his position but for now, he is the best we have, including Dobbins, who has only recently made a play or two...
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Da 'FinsStaffFunny, I actually came on the site tonight, after reading about Crowder being out, just to comment that I am completely done with the guy. And it's good to see several in agreement. I think we need to simply release him at the end of the year - asap - and move on. Or send him on his way now.
I am dumbfounded by his defenders as a player. Fans of him? Okay, fine. But, defend his unbelievably mediocre play - defend a player who gets blown up on blitzes by scatbacks? A player who constantly makes misreads throwing his body into the wrong hole? A player who makes his tackles 6-8 yards downfield? And, a player whose greatest asset is to get the other teams players fired up to shut him up? I can completely do without that. And, he's not even reliable to stay on the field anymore.
I'd just as soon have Dobbins on the field b/c even if he's not that great - at least he's not nearly as frustrating!
padre31Luxury Box"Da 'Fins wrote:
Funny, I actually came on the site tonight, after reading about Crowder being out, just to comment that I am completely done with the guy. And it's good to see several in agreement. I think we need to simply release him at the end of the year - asap - and move on. Or send him on his way now.
I am dumbfounded by his defenders as a player. Fans of him? Okay, fine. But, defend his unbelievably mediocre play - defend a player who gets blown up on blitzes by scatbacks? A player who constantly makes misreads throwing his body into the wrong hole? A player who makes his tackles 6-8 yards downfield? And, a player whose greatest asset is to get the other teams players fired up to shut him up? I can completely do without that. And, he's not even reliable to stay on the field anymore.
I'd just as soon have Dobbins on the field b/c even if he's not that great - at least he's not nearly as frustrating!
Hmm, I am not the largest Crowder fan nor detractor, but I do see more value in his play than what you are describing Da' fins, he is more of a 2 down role playing Ilb whom you can live with, he is certainly upgradeable, but you can also do much worse and you need players who keep guys loose on the team.
I like him, don't love him, however he is not a scrubbini.