love this!

 

I'm not a coffee guy either.

 

You're missing out!

I never understood all the hate for Ochocinco. He's a cool guy.

 

I guess this means that Starbucks has replaced his stolen Gold card. Good for them

 

Has anyone ever said he had a terrible work ethic? From everything I've heard he works hard.

It's his freelancing ways that upsets some people.

 

Well, thing to keep in mind is he played with Carson Palmer for most of his career, that sort of relationship leads to free lancing.

What is more interesting is..he's not chatting up Garrard or MMoore...hmm..

 

$9 cup if coffee is 9 dollars.

 

His work ethic was never in question. He is a workout warrior. He often tweets out to other players regarding working out.

He also tweet ups with fans. He will take fans out to dinner, bowling, etc. he loves meeting up. Another thing that goes against the diva myth.

 

Chad was always a hard worker during his time in Cincinnati. It's the stuff like being on Twitter 24/7, eating McDonald's every day (one of his rituals), his celebrations on the field, etc. that give people the perception that he's not a hard-worker in my opinion. Now, he's definitely not smart with his money, for example, there's a restaurant down the street from my apartment where if you went on a Friday night, you could see Chad's pink Cadillac parked out front. He'd pay for everybody in the restaurant's meal if you were sitting at a table when he got up to leave. But I think he's a very hard worker.

 

I also think it's very good that he's out there with Tannehill. When I worked for Anthony Munoz's office, we used to get to go on the field and watch Bengals training camp from the sidelines. He and Carson Palmer were so in-tune, they could simply look at one another and change a route or make an adjustment. They burned just about every DB the Bengals had, including Leon Hall and Jonathan Joseph, simply because they knew what the other was thinking. I'd like to think that can only be good for Chad and Tannehill.

 

the more andmore I think about this, the more and more I see this as a positive signing.
If the man puts in work day in and day out, he can do all the dancing in the endzone he wants to........... assuming he gets there.
People really need to stop overstating the impace his td dances have.

 

1) Where I come from that's called being classy.
2) How do we know he isn't well invested?

 

Lord have mercy! I can't open both eyes without a cup of joe in my hands...

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Hopefully there was a phone call made the prior night. That's all you need is your QB pissed at you within a week of signing.

 

I have a feeling Ochocinco is going to be the kind of acquisition that Bush turned out to be.

 

Now wouldnt it be something if we made a little noise with some castoffs (Bush for a late pick, Ocho for the vet min + incentives), a bunch of guys no one really wanted (Bess, Hartline, all the young wr's on the roster) and a good defense?

I like OCNN (his facebook is Ocho Cinco News Network) and I think he will be highly productive. Theres definitely something left in the tank based on what I saw last year.

 

I have a twitter account, I have followers and I follow others, but one thing I can't follow is the conversations on twitter, I have yet to figure this out and never have a clue who is talking to who. Frustrating.

So who is the coffee drinker out of the two and who is not?

 

Was thinking more along the lines of Irving Fryar, but yeah I do expect a good season out of him as well.

 

I dont like coffee either.

 

That's the issue with Chad. He tends to be undisciplined in his route running despite being a hard worker. In certain systems that's simply a bad fit. In NE, for example, he never did much for that very reason (IMO). And outside of Welker their WR talent was thinner than what we have here. I expect that our system will require at least the same level of route precision as NE's does. I have always liked Chad. He was the guy I wanted in that draft where we got Chambers and I was happy for him fulfilling a childhood dream of signing with Miami, but I don't see him as a great fit here at this point. When he was younger, he got by due to his dynamic athleticism, but now his athleticism is average to below average and he isn't a great fundamental player. He's a low risk signing, so it's no big deal. I just don't see the odds of him making a significant contribution as all that good.

 

His athleticism is actually one thing I've been trying to get a grasp of, so far it has boiled down to either he was not tasked with doing enough in NE to say, or he was done before he came to NE.

So basically, we'll have to wait and see what he has in the tank, Tory Holt was his age and vanished in Jville, then again Rice and Brown and even Fryar all still were highly productive. The one thing in his favor is no major knee injuries to this point which tends to be a good predictor of whether a vet will be productive or not.

 

My issue is that it may not matter. I expect that in Philbin/Shermer's system disciplined and consistent route running is far more important than athleticism.

 

Eh, 10 yr vet vs UDFA's though?

 

So he just made Tannehill wait for two hours? lol I'd be piiiiiissed.

 

I believe Ocho is the coffee drinker. He is the one with Gold Star bucks card.

 

6:30 is nice and cool I'd be marking one up for negetive bs there if he made me wait that long to.

And Ocho is the one that set the time? Come on man.

 

I don't think that his work ethic is poor. I think, from what we know of him, is that he's basically a rock from the neck up... He was in the same O with Cincy for several years and TJ (who, incidentally, hadn't been in that O as long as Chad) commented he had to line 85 up at times. He was criticized in NE for not having a good handle on the offense. That's where the criticism has come in with him. That and whether he's still got enough at 34 yrs old....but we'll see about that soon enough. The question is still him learning new language and a different offense...not his work ethic...

And, off topic...I'm liking Tanny even more...not a coffee guy myself...

 

I've always liked him too, but it's not that, it's whether or not he has done the necessary things to regain the strength in his body, when he got wrapped up in the reality show business, his body started to shrink, and he started to get handled at the LOS, guys like Revis were just playing with him like he was soft tissue. He lost the strength to battle, separate, and fight for the ball..I hope he gets it, because he's still young enough to get it back.

 

TJ and Chad were in that offense the same exact amount of time. They also played one year together prior at Oregon State, then were drafted both in the 2001 draft. Chad in the 2nd, and TJ in the 7th, which was a big surprise to many that he lasted that long.

 

Not really. I just find the taste and smell to be hideous. Just my opinion or personal preference. ;)

I don't get the hate for Chad either. He has almost a childlike quality about him to me. Sort of an upbeat happiness and innocence to his demeanor. Some folks didn't like his end zone celebrations, so the rest of the hate or dislike grew from that IMO.

 

One concern to me, is his addiction to McDs food, which is really just a step up from junk food. They cram their food full of preservatives. Buy one of their $1 burgers. Leave it in the wrapper untouched for 6 months or even longer, then unwrap it. You'd expect to find rotten meat and bread covered in mold. The burger other than being cold and hard will look basically like it did when you bought it. That's scary to me. I've not done that experiment, but several people have and made videos about it. Just search youtube. :)

If a major part of his daily calories comes from there, well, we have a sign at the gym I go to: "You can't out train a bad diet." So, while it is all well and good that he trains hard, perhaps due to his diet, his body will just start slowing down earlier than someone else who also trains as hard, but is very careful about the kinds of food they usually put into their body. JMO.

 

I have never been a fan of coffee. Just too bitter for me. Which is weird because I do think coffee smells good.

 

Old guy vs. young guys? Father time is undefeated. The best you can hope for is to delay him by being great in the fundamentals.

You would expect Chad to look better than the UDFAs in OTAs just b/c he has the speed down and nobody knows the playbook or runs precise routes. But once in TC, the advantage will go to whomever figures out how to run the precise routes that this offense demands. If nobody figures it out than Chad retains the advantage, but I would see that as bad news for us.

 

Supposedly his problem wasn't route running but the post snap options that tossed him up.

If I'm Philbin I'm like this. Run the route or you'll be cut. Then we'll see how well he runs his routes but I suspect he won't freelance.

 

I think a lot of it will depend on who wins the quarterback competition. If it is Garrard, then his freelancing might not be as valuable.

If it is Moore, who pretty much throws it to the open guy and isn't that good of a timing quarterback, his freelancing wouldn't be too much of a problem.

If it is Tannehill, I think his freelancing might be a benefit due to Tannehill's amazing ability to throw on the run.

 

That sounds exactly like what is tripping up Gates at this point. Freelance is probably the wrong term. It's all about making decisions quickly that match what the offense and the QB expect.

 

The McD's stuff is nonsense. They claim to have 100% beef patties so if they say it, I believe it until the FDA or FTC busts them for lying.

http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives...f-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results.html

This guy tested the myth and made his own patty of the same size. Guess what, the fresh homemade patty didn't rot either. It's the size of the patty. It's so small it dries up before mold can form. When you ziploc the McD's burger and a homemade burger, they do, indeed rot (ziploc traps in the moisture). The larger El Royale With Cheese (oops, i mean quarter pounder) does rot at the same rate as the homemade burger. Due to the larger size.