Opinion on Henning is mixed. Here's one list of the 10 worst play calling OCs and Henning made that list.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/423399-nfls-10-worst-playcalling-offensive-coordinators#page/1

 

cam cameron has done a great job in baltimore so far.don't care for him as hc but i wouldn't mind him as our o.c,doug marrone(currently syracuse hc)did a fine job for the saints,also marty mornhinweg from philly is a o.c i would not mind having instead of dan henning..i could go on but i think i have a word limit in post.

nice idea though,i'm not a henning fan but hadn't really thought about who i would replace him with.and if we don't do too hot this year i garuntee there wil be a change the next.

 

Hah. Dan Henning is nowhere in that picture.

 

Putting Dan Henning on the top ten worst play callers is incorrect IMO. He's done very well this year. He's an Air Coryell guy and I think we're going to see this offense open up more each week.

 

-Mike Martz

-Texans OC (Brian Shanahan?)

-Falcons OC

Thing is, I like Henning as well, I think what hurts his offense is the shuffling at Te and G-C-G, that is the cost of missing on the Nalbone and Groves of the roster.

WE do not have an H-Back and we do not have a true Movement Te, we cannot pass down the field to the Te and we cannot simply run block that is why I'm pinning some hopes on Mickey Shuler panning out from Day 1.

 

Kyle Shanahan is now the OC in Washington.

We already tried Mike Mularkey. Didn’t work.

 

texans score a lot in the 1st half but then tend to shut it down. i certainly wouldnt put them ahead of us in terms of playcalling. Same with Atlanta. Henning is better than Mularkey. The difference between Atlanta and us is they have had the same offensive line for three years, Tony Gonzalez and Matt Ryan is one step ahead of his development than Henne. Other than that its a mirror reflection but Henning is craftier than Mularkey. He can beat a superior defenser using scheme. Mularkey can only win when he has the mismatch

 

By what measure can you say that Cam Cameron has done a great job in Baltimore?

 

Not touching Martz are you...:shifty:

Eh, I like Henning so I just roll them up there..:D

I'd really like to see Shuler turn into a pancake creating H-Back type, that would be such a boon to the offense, but if he doesn't work out Deon Anderson is out there.

To be blunt, Henning's offense is NOT designed to have 1 Te, it just isn't.

 

I think Martz would give us a whole new set of problems.

 

i would rank them this way. if i include a name in parentheses its the head coach who i believe is calling the offensive plays

1) sean payton

2) joe philbon (mike mccarthy)

3) bill belichik

4) mike heimerdinger

5) jason garrett

6) tom moore

7) cam cameron

8) clarence shelmon (norv turner)

9) dan henning

10) bruce arians

11) ken whisenhunt

12) josh mcdaniels

13) marty mohrniweg

14) bob bratkowski

15) mike martz

16) brian schottenheimer

17) rick dennison (gary kubiak)

18) darrell bevell (brad childress)

 

He would not last past the first scrimmage, Sparano and Gugs would offer to take him out for dinner and he would never been seen again.

Now one thing I don't like about Henning is he has not developed new, effective wrinkles for the WildCat, he was given the keys to David Lee's idea and he ran it into the ditch, teams such as NYJ and Broncos have been far more creative than Henning.

 

both OCs very creative but they make far more weird scratch your head calls in game than Henning.

 

You must be thinking of Twitter .There is no word limit here.Have you ever seen one of CKs posts.:lol:

 

Nope, not buying it Southbeach, heard the same stuff about Pat White in 09.

They amounted to:

-1 option play

-1 deep overthrow to Ted Ginn

It came out at a Henning presser that they were afraid to let White run the ball and I just threw my hands up in the air, they drafted the man specifically for the Pat Cat, you'd think if they had reservations they would have expressed those prior to bringing White into Miami.

McAdolescent's use of the Wild Horses formation with the Qb starting out as if he was going to be under center was a simple and effective wrinkle..we never saw it used in Miami.

 

he does a good job of mixing things up and getting the ball to his players in many diffeernt ways.last 2 years they were a playoff team and for once it wasn't just because of their defense.

one of the biggest things i don't like about henning is his lack of creativity in getting the ball to his playmakers in differnt ways and one example of that (i know right?how can the wc not be considered creative?)is the lack of passes to ronnie we see.great hands for a rb being underutillized.even in the wc it is 98% of the time a run up the gut or trying to bounce it outside with ronnie/ricky.

cam does a pretty good job of utillizing the weapons he has in many different ways and i like that in a o.c and the lack of it in our offense besides the o-line and henne's growth as a starting qb is one of the reasons it is sputtering..our offense has become as vannila as our defense had been for so many years in the past and very predictable even with the wc.

 

...Brian Schottenheimer. :shifty:













:shifty:

 

If Henning is replaced who will be the next OC to be hated should be the question....


Give me an offensive coordinator that bases his system from Don Coryell and I'd be content to give him a try.

Oh wait! Henning fits that bill. There are more times than not that I like Henning but I do tend to think he outsmarts himself too often.

 

I don't get it when people say this..."I think we're going to see this offense open up more each week". Why wait ? Open it up from the start of the season and get the guys in gear. We don't have time and games to waste waiting for them to get their act together. We have to win Monday, or our season may already be about playing for no more than a Wildcard. We lose I just don't see us overcoming the advantage the Jets and Pats will have over us to win the division.

 

The Ravens just had the ball 3rd and goal from the 2 and Cam Cameron called two straight passes. Both were incomplete. Ray Rice had rushed for 6 yards on 2nd and 8 to get them to the 2. Glad to see that Henning isn't the only coordinator who sucks in the red zone. We all knew Cameron sucks, but still.

 

I realize that we only have one loss, but saying that he did well this year is ridiculous. 2/3 of our games have been dominated by defense and we barely moved the ball at all except on the ground. Our one loss came from a shootout where we all but abandoned the running game for passes, even when the Jets secondary was playing run defense 100%.

Opening up the offense is fine and dandy, but when you're five yards from tying the game against one of the league's top passing defenses it's time to pull the ball on the ground and power in the end zone. It's hard to fault Henning in the two games we won (even though after our week 3 performance it's obvious those two games could have been blowouts), but we can definitely fault him for our week 3 loss.

Henning seems to be a man of extremes..either we're running or we're passing. Stop the Wildcat three times and we won't use it again. Pressure Henne into a few incompletions and we won't try to go deep again that day. We have a very balanced offense, but a very inbalanced offensive coordinator.

 

who was going to run the ball. ronnie had a bad hamstring and ricky has a fumbling problem and is running slow. the game isnt played in fantasy land where we can just turn the run game on and off at will

 

Aah...this isn't the fantasy league where if a running back gets the s&#t knocked out of him and fumbles he's automatically worthless either. Polite or Williams could have punched it on four carries...and don't forget there was a 1st down at the 1 available too.

Williams had the ball stripped on a great defensive play...that's a far cry from saying he shouldn't be on the field. I know Madden doesn't teach you that, but it's true.

 

Well, although i have nothing against Henning, I would be a turncoat if I didn't say that I wish we didn't run the ball more.

If the argument is that we cant run the ball, then that is different :tongue2:

 

we are having far more success passing in that game then running yet when the game is on the line you want to go to our less effective weapon? the 1st down call was a fade to marshall one on one isolated. you couldnt get a better matchup then that. there is no way a run is a better call than that. thats an execution foulup not a playcalling foulup

 

Its not so much a foul up on play calling, more an inadequacy in rushing consistently IMO. We just dont run the ball very well on 1st down.

 

I'm not disagreeing on what you are saying, I just don't like it.

 

three new starters on our inside offensive line. it will improve as the season goes on. hell it will improve as soon as we get jerry back

 

well i didnt like the outcome so i'll meet you halfway :lol:

 

blearcherreport.com ... all I have to say.

 

Clarence Shelmon :pointlol::lol:

 

There was already a thread on this and commentators have talked about it as well. Marshall had just sprinted over half the field and he was sucking wind...he clearly didn't go all-out on that play.

Do I fault Marshall? Heck no. Do I fault Henning for not paying attention? Yup. 1st down should have been Polite right up the gut, let Marshall catch his breath, then hit in on 2nd down. If Polite picked up 2-3 yards, then maybe repeat the call for the first down...plenty of options other than the fade pass to the gassed WR.....it was not the perfect call by a longshot.

 

call me crazy but i think norv turner is in charge there :lol:

 

brandon marshall isolated one on one, even if he's gassed, is a better play call than polite up the gut. i doubt there is an offensive coordinator in the league that wouldnt agree

 

Situational football: most overlooked thing IMO.