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***Offical 2009 New York Yankees Thread: World Series Champions***

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Jt0323, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    what killed baseball is allowing small market cities to have teams. They should eleiminate about ten to twelve teams. get rid of the weakest 250 players and you would see the quality of the sport go up dramatically. right now teams like the yankees support these loser teams. let them die already for the good of the sport
     
  2. Ray Finkle

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    I don't know if I would consider that home grown though because technically I consider home grown guys players who the team has either drafted or signed as an amateur FA. So I wouldn't count guys like Matsui, Ichiro, Matsuzaka, Kei Igawa etc as home grown even though they never played for another MLB team.

    The only thing that I feel is tricky is when a team makes a trade for a player who never played in the MLB and he spends from time in the minors (i.e. how the Red Sox traded for Varitek and Lowe, they never played for Seattle but were in their system and came to the Sox organization, spent time in the minors and made their MLB debut with the Sox). But even then I don't consider those players to be home grown.
     
  3. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    Eliminate 10 to 12 teams? No that's a terrible idea and would never ever happen. If anything you'll see 2 new AL teams after Bud leaves office. You could make an arguement to eliminate 2 teams (like they talked about in the past) but even then there would be a lot of jobs lost both in terms of players and also workers (whether it be front workers or people that sell hot dogs) so that won't happen. But beyond that is just too insane to even think about, sorry.
     
  4. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Or do the correct thing and Cap the freakin sport like ALL others are!
    Why should it only be the rich spoiled kids that get Christmas?
    Keep in mind, I am a D-backs fan, and I was almost immediately put out when I did indeed find out they basically bought their championship. Why should they be lent money by the commisioner to by premium players but nobody else?
    Doesn't this lack of fairness and integrity bother you even a little bit.
    Think about this, if it was Football that was uncapped, would it bother you that teams like the Cowboys, Patriots and Jests would be able to stack their rosters each and every year?
    This is no different.
     
  5. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    or do the correct thing and if you cant compete become a minor league team like you were meant to be. there are way too many baseball teams in the league that cant compete and are merely fodder for the real teams. get the league down to the healthiest 20 teams and you will see the quality of the sport improve dramatically. the problem with the sport today is too many players starting that shouldnt even be in the big leagues annd thats because we have too many teams

    this is a problem that all sports have. all sports shpuld eliminate about ten teams or so. the talent pool is way too diluted nowadays
     
  6. Pagan

    Pagan Metal & a Mustang

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    I might be mistaken, but isn't football going to be uncapped next year?
     
  7. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    There's more parity in baseball than any other sport right now in terms of the number of different teams making the playoffs and winning championships (baseball has fewer teams that make the playoffs than the other sports too). Even with a cap the same football and basketball teams are always good while the same teams are always bad. At least in baseball besides from the Pirates and Royals that's not always true.
     
  8. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    unless they reach an agreement with the players association...
     
  9. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What a great night!
    I watched all the post-game stuff too.
    What a great team and I knew they'd win it. Once A-Rod came back, they were the best team in MLB.

    Enjoy it Yankee fans!
     
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  10. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    Also regarding small market/need for a cap, how come no one mentions the Twins or A's? Both teams have made the playoffs numerous times this decade and are small markets (although the Twins owner before he passed away this year was the richest owner in baseball). Again just backs up my point about how teams don't need to spend a lot of money to be good, they just need a smart front office.
     
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  11. Jt0323

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    i was telling my brother that i am really impressed with what the twins do each year... I mean i believe i saw that they were the 24th highest pay roll in baseball, and they constantly make the playoffs...just imagine if they decided to spend some money, how good they could be...
     
  12. Ray Finkle

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    Meanwhile teams like the Tigers and White Sox spend a lot of money to finish 2nd, 3rd and 4th each year in that division. You have to respect what small market teams like the Twins do, and that's even after blowing the Johan Santana trade and trading Matt Garza and Jason Bartlet for Delmon Young who's been a huge bust. Imagine how good they'd be if the Twins actually got good players for Santana and kept Garza and Bartlet? Again and I keep stressing this, it's more about how good your baseball operation people are than how much you spend.
     
  13. Roman529

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    Congrats Yankees for beating my Phillies fair and square....no excuses on my part...you guys just beat us. But the Phillies will be heading back to the World Series for their 3rd straight trip next year. GOOD LUCK, and try not to sign up every free agent in the off season.
     
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  14. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    gotta give your team credit. you played your hearts out and never laid down. you deserve to be back next year and hope we get to play you again. wanna trade utlley? :lol: we'll give you matsui
     
  15. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    it better not be.
     
  16. Roman529

    Roman529 Senior Member

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    It's hard to win a World Series....I think it's even harder then winning a Superbowl. I have read a couple columns that have said a Yankees-Phillies World Series repeat is a possibility next year. Las Vegas already has the odds out for next year and the Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies are the favorites to win it next year, in that order. The Royals, Pirates and Nats and are at 100-1 to win it.
     
  17. Jt0323

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    To be honest, i may put 10$ on the Royals... Out of those 3, they are the best
     
  18. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Lots of choices and decisions to fill some holes: (forgot about Nady).

    LF, C (Starter/Backup), Utility, RF will be interesting decisions.

    Of our FA's, I would like to see if Nady is healthy, if Hairston would agree to Utility role, suspect Molina will return as backup and Burnett battery mate, and also have to decide on Minor League talent if Jackson is ready for OF role.

    All other FA's I suspect would be gone (Andy has to make the call).

    I know some fans are eyeing Bay moving from Boston to patrol LF for Yanks (or Holliday from STL), just not sure on that myself.

    2009-10 Major League Baseball free agents
    ATLANTA BRAVES
    Anderson, Garret OF
    Gonzalez, Mike RP
    Hudson, Tim ** SP
    LaRoche, Adam 1B
    Norton, Greg 1B/OF
    Soriano, Rafael RP

    ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS
    Davis, Doug SP
    Schoeneweis, Scott RP
    Tracy, Chad 1B

    BALTIMORE ORIOLES
    Baez, Danys RP
    Hendrickson, Mark SP/RP
    Moeller, Chad C
    Mora, Melvin 3B

    BOSTON RED SOX
    Baldelli, Rocco OF
    Bay, Jason OF
    Byrd, Paul SP
    Gonzalez, Alex SS
    Varitek, Jason ** C
    Wagner, Billy RP
    Wakefield, Tim SP
    Woodward, Chris 3B

    CHICAGO CUBS
    Fox, Chad RP
    Grabow, John RP
    Gregg, Kevin RP
    Harden, Rich SP
    Johnson, Reed OF

    CHICAGO WHITE SOX
    Castro, Ramon C
    Dotel, Octavio RP
    Dye, Jermaine OF
    Podsednik, Scott OF

    CINCINNATI REDS
    Hernandez, Ramon ** C
    Wells, Kip SP

    CLEVELAND INDIANS
    Carroll, Jamey 2B/3B/OF
    Ohka, Tomokazu SP/RP

    COLORADO ROCKIES
    Beimel, Joe RP
    Betancourt, Rafael ** RP
    Contreras, Jose SP
    Embree, Alan RP
    Fogg, Josh SP/RP
    Giambi, Jason 1B
    Herges, Matt RP
    Marquis, Jason SP
    Rincon, Juan RP
    Torrealba, Yorvit C

    DETROIT TIGERS
    Everett, Adam SS
    Huff, Aubrey 1B/3B
    Lyon, Brandon RP
    Polanco, Placido 2B
    Rodney, Fernando RP
    Washburn, Jarrod SP

    FLORIDA MARLINS
    Calero, Kiko RP
    Donnelly, Brendan RP
    Gload, Ross 1B/OF
    Johnson, Nick 1B

    HOUSTON ASTROS
    Boone, Aaron 1B/3B
    Brocail, Doug ** RP
    Erstad, Darin 1B/OF
    Hampton, Mike SP
    Hawkins, LaTroy RP
    Michaels, Jason OF
    Tejada, Miguel SS
    Valverde, Jose RP

    KANSAS CITY ROYALS
    Chen, Bruce SP/RP
    Crisp, Coco OF
    Olivo, Miguel ** C
    Wright, Jamey RP

    L.A. ANGELS OF ANAHEIM
    Escobar, Kelvim SP
    Figgins, Chone 3B
    Guerrero, Vladimir OF/DH
    Lackey, John SP
    Oliver, Darren RP
    Quinlan, Robb 1B/3B/OF

    LOS ANGELES DODGERS
    Ausmus, Brad C
    Belliard, Ron 2B
    Castro, Juan 2B/SS
    Garland, Jon SP
    Hudson, Orlando 2B
    Loretta, Mark 1B/2B/3B
    Mientkiewicz, Doug 1B
    Milton, Eric SP
    Mota, Guillermo RP
    Ohman, Will ** RP
    Padilla, Vicente SP
    Schmidt, Jason SP
    Thome, Jim DH/1B
    Weaver, Jeff SP
    Wolf, Randy SP

    MILWAUKEE BREWERS
    Cameron, Michael OF
    Catalanotto, Frank OF
    Counsell, Craig 2B/3B/SS
    Kendall, Jason C
    Looper, Braden ** RP
    Lopez, Felipe 2B/3B/SS/OF
    Patterson, Corey OF
    Vargas, Claudio SP/RP
    Weathers, Dave RP

    MINNESOTA TWINS
    Cabrera, Orlando SS
    Crede, Joe 3B
    Mahay, Ron RP
    Pavano, Carl SP
    Redmond, Mike C

    NEW YORK METS
    Cora, Alex 2B/SS
    Delgado, Carlos 1B
    Dessens, Elmer RP
    Martinez, Ramon 2B/SS
    Putz, J.J. RP
    Schneider, Brian C
    Sheffield, Gary OF
    Tatis, Fernando 1B/3B/OF

    NEW YORK YANKEES
    Damon, Johnny OF
    Hairston Jr, Jerry 2B/3B/SS/OF
    Hinske, Eric 1B/OF
    Matsui, Hideki OF
    Molina, Jose C
    Nady, Xavier OF
    Pettitte, Andy SP

    OAKLAND A'S
    Crosby, Bobby SS
    Duchscherer, Justin SP
    Garciaparra, Nomar 1B
    Kennedy, Adam 2B
    Tomko, Brett SP

    PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
    Bako, Paul C
    Cairo, Miguel IF
    Eyre, Scott RP
    Feliz, Pedro 3B
    Martinez, Pedro SP
    Myers, Brett SP
    Park, Chan Ho SP
    Stairs, Matt OF

    PITTSBURGH PIRATES
    None

    SAN DIEGO PADRES
    Blanco, Henry C
    Giles, Brian OF

    SEATTLE MARINERS
    Batista, Miguel SP/RP
    Bedard, Erik SP</B>
    Beltre, Adrian 3B
    Branyan, Russell 1B
    Chavez, Endy OF
    Griffey Jr., Ken DH/OF
    Sweeney, Mike 1B/DH
    Wilson, Jack ** SS

    SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS
    Aurilia, Rich 1B/3B
    Howry, Bob RP
    Johnson, Randy SP
    Molina, Bengie C
    Penny, Brad SP
    Uribe, Juan 2B/3B/SS
    Winn, Randy OF

    ST. LOUIS CARDINALS
    Ankiel, Rick OF
    DeRosa, Mark 3B
    Glaus, Troy 3B
    Greene, Khalil SS/3B
    Holliday, Matt OF
    LaRue, Jason C
    Pineiro, Joel SP
    Smoltz, John SP
    Wellemeyer, Todd SP

    TAMPA BAY RAYS
    Bradford, Chad RP
    Crawford, Carl ** OF
    Isringhausen, Jason RP
    Percival, Troy RP
    Shouse, Brian ** RP
    Springer, Russ RP
    Zaun, Gregg ** C

    TEXAS RANGERS
    Benoit, Joaquin RP
    Blalock, Hank 3B
    Byrd, Marlon OF
    Guardado, Eddie RP
    Jones, Andruw OF
    Rodriguez, Ivan C
    Vizquel, Omar SS

    TORONTO BLUE JAYS
    Barajas, Rod C
    McDonald, John 3B/SS
    Millar, Kevin OF
    Scutaro, Marco 2B/SS

    WASHINGTON NATIONALS
    Bard, Josh C
    Hernandez, Livan SP
    Kearns, Austin ** OF
    Villone, Ron RP
    Young, Dmitri 1B
     
  19. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    hahahahaha...too funny not to post:
    [ame="http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1924701"]Remix: Yankees MasterCard Commercial - CollegeHumor video[/ame]
     
  20. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091118&content_id=7684008&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

    Different goals in free-agent market

    Overhaul not in order, Yankees looking to tweak roster


    If they end up getting their hands on Halladay or Lackey....phewwwww...look out.
     
  21. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Love when the FARM is getting props....

    Dunn, Kennedy shine in AFL stint
    Yankees hurlers show their talent against big league prospects

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091120&content_id=7693972&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy


     
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  22. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    Who would have thought that a championship could ONLY cost $1 Billion dollars? Really amazing feat by the New York Yankees!
     
  23. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/

    Just dont see them retaining his services.....until all other priorities are addressed (assessment of Nady, and bidding on LF "Bay??? or Holliday"???).
     
  24. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    http://ruthianclout.mlblogs.com/arc...o-keep-both-damon-matsui.html?obref=obnetwork

    Here is an argument for not just Damon but also Matsui "compelling case really":
     

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