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***Official 2012-13 MLB HOTSTOVE OFF-SEASON THREAD***

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by BigDogsHunt, Oct 31, 2012.

  1. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Ok, post your favorite Team's (or Rivals) news, trades, FA Signings, Team speculations and rumors, etc....and all other HOT STOVE items to keep everyone interested and in the loop on club wheelin' and dealin' going on.

    Hopefully this will help keep the OFFICIAL Team 2013 Season threads (once created) uncluttered for ACTUAL deals; and not simply SPECULATION, etc.

    Enjoy!

    Post all news and updates as you see fit for all to follow:up:


    • Immediately after World Series - Eligible players hit free agency
    • Three days after World Series - Option decisions due
    • Five days after World Series - Qualifying offers due
    • Six days after World Series - Free agents can sign contracts with teams other than their former clubs
    • 12 days after World Series - Players must accept or reject qualifying offers
    • November 7th - 9th - GM Meetings
    • November 20th - Deadline for setting 40-man roster in advance of Rule 5 Draft
    • November 30th - Deadline for teams to tender contracts to arbitration eligible players
    • December 3rd - 6th - Winter Meetings
    • December 6th - Rule 5 Draft takes place at Winter Meetings
    • January - Teams, players exchange arbitration figures
    • February - Arbitration hearings take place

    Full list showing which 2013 MLB free agents remain available at each position, is found here.

     
  2. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    The Royals have acquired Ervin Santana from the Angels, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter). The Royals acquired Santana and cash from the Angels for minor league left-hander Brandon Sisk, the teams announced.

    The Royals will presumably exercise Santana's $13MM option, and perhaps attempt to negotiate a new long term deal.

     
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  3. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    You do great work bigdog in the off season threads. Thanks so much
     
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  4. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Andrew McCutchen won the Gold Glove this year. Well deserved. What a year that man had!!! MVP, imo.
     
  5. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    I like the Santana deal for the Royals, even if he was pretty bad this year. Good buy low.
     
  6. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    He is going to hog up quite a bit of there total Salary and he is hardly the #1 type pitcher they badly need.
     
  7. BigDogsHunt

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    Happy for him, but seriously in the AL how the heck did Trout get snubbed on Gold Glove????
     
  8. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Because the Gold Glove is a joke. The Fielding Bible awards are more accurate.
     
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  9. Ray Finkle

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    What #1 pitcher is out there that they can acquire for basically nothing? So they're paying him 12 million next year, if he stinks he's gone the following year. If he has a bounce back even better. Like I said it's a good buy low, they gave up a career 27 year old minor leaguer for potential. If I were the Pirates or KCs of the league I'd go for these moves instead of overpaying for FA pitchers (the Jason Marquis of the MLB) on multi-year deals.
     
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  10. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Lookk hahah where hahahahah the guy hahahahaha has hahaha Melky hahahahaha goingggggg hahahahahahahahhahahah.......

    Please please please......

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/10/2013-top-50-free-agents-with-predictions-1.html
     
  11. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Pujols to Miami
     
  12. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    You get what you pay for.. The Giants are trying to move Lincecum... The Royals would like to move Gordon to make room for Myers... That would have made more sense then trading for a very up and down pitcher in Santanna and when he is down he is really down!
     
  13. Ray Finkle

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  14. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    Why would the Royals move Gordon when they have dead weight in the OF in the form of Jeff Francoeur?

    However I still don't see how trading for Santana prevents them for trading for another player. I realize they have 12 million more on the books since they picked up Santana but I don't think that would stop them from getting a Lincecum if possible.

    Plus who's to say that the Giants would trade Lincecum or would trade him for Alex Gordon. If I'm the Giants and I want to move Lincecum don't you ask for Wil Myers instead?
     
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  15. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Deal....you gotta put it in your signature tho.....just the back.....

    dude if Melky signs with you guys, it will be for 1yr at like 1-3M.....low risk and he will hit LIKE A MANIC......
     
  16. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    Deal!

    If it's just for 1 year I wouldn't mind it truth be told. They can do a lot worse than him, even if it will pain me to have to cheer for him as I never really liked him as a player (nothing to do with the PED stuff). I'd rather have Torii Hunter actually and would give him a 2 year deal. He'd be my first chance, even over Cody Ross.
     
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  17. Nappy Roots

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    I'd hope we sign Melky for a deal like that.
     
  18. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    I have zero doubt in my mind if TB signed him he'd hit .350/.450/.600 with like 25 HRs or something crazy like that.
     
  19. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Look how long Lincecum is signed for an there is your answer. And they would be lucky if anyone would be stupid enough to trade for Francoer.

    The Angels are trying to move Wells so i guess anything is possible.
     
  20. Ray Finkle

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    I know Lincecum is a FA after the 2013 season but I still don't understand why the Giants would want to. The team is coming off of a WS title and Lincecum just had his worst year in his career. They would be selling him low and the replacement likely wouldn't be close to his potential. At the very worst he showed in the playoffs this year he could be a super-reliever (a guy that can throw multiple innings, multiple days in a row), I realize 22 million is way high for that role, if he's in the role, but the Giants won't be hurting for cash, it simply makes zero sense to trade Lincecum just because he'll be a FA next year.

    Agreed on Francoeur but if I'm the Royals I'd release him or make him the 4th OFer before I trade Alex Gordon to make way for Myers.
     
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  21. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Today is qualifying offer day deadline.....so with that....
    So basically you get to pick at the end of the round instead of getting that teams draft spot....
     
  22. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    Certainly makes rooting for certain teams to sign your qualified FAs not as exciting anymore.
     
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  24. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    I don't get this from the Cubs side of things, doesn't seem to make sense or add up.
     
  25. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Could be just a move to keep the fans talking and well buying tickets of course.
     
  26. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    Would be surprised. Cubs draw well even when they have bad teams. Plus I don't think Theo and Hoyer would sacrifice the future of their organization prospect wise to draw more fans.
     
  27. Anonymous

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    Carlos Marmol for Dan Haren. Great for Chicago.
     
  28. LiferYank

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    I agree. Both one year contracts. Cubs have money to spend and id take Haren over Marmol anyday.
     
  29. BigDogsHunt

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    Hmmm, the trade will not take place, a Cubs source tells Carrie Muskat of MLB.com (via Twitter).

    Marmol would have approved a trade to the Angels, but the Cubs pulled the deal off of the table, a source tells Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (via Twitter). The Angels are still talking with other clubs about Haren as they close in on the 11pm CST deadline to exercise his $15.5MM option.

    Meanwhile, a source tells Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com (via Twitter) that the deal is not necessarily dead but is unlikely at this point.

     
  31. Ray Finkle

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    Best guess is the Cubs saw Haren's medicals and got cold feet. Also that's probably why he wasn't dealt to another team. Either way Haren is now a FA so let the bidding begin.
     
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  32. Nappy Roots

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    I would trade Marmol for a wet bucket of baseballs. So my guess is the medical thing as well.
     
  33. BigDogsHunt

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    Mariano Rivera informed Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman that he wants to return next season, tweets Erik Boland of Newsday. Gaining some clarity on Rivera's situation will almost certainly influence the Yankees' stance on Rafael Soriano or any other reliever on the FA market.

    Will be interested in what contract they can sign Mo to! Will it be a 1yr deal? 2yr deal? Same $15M they have paid him over the last 5 years? Will be interesting.

    Also, Yanks did extend the $13.3M qualifying offers to Nick Swisher, Hiroki Kuroda, and Rafael Soriano,



     
  34. Jt0323

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    Glad Rivera wants to come back. Hope they can get Hiroki Kuroda. I hope Swisher leaves. Hes not worth the big money he wants.
     
  35. LiferYank

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    Good to hear he will be back. The Yankees would be stupid to sign him for 2 years though at his age.. There simply is no reason to.
     
  36. BigDogsHunt

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    Only nine players received qualifying offers this winter. Players who received the one-year, $13.3MM offer now have until November 9th to accept the deal. If the player turns down the offer and signs elsewhere, the team will get a compensatory draft pick in June.




     
  37. BigDogsHunt

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    The Red Sox officially announced the deal for David Ortiz. Big Papi will earn $14MM in 2013 and $11MM in 2014 with a $1MM signing bonus, according to Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com (on Twitter).

     
  38. Anonymous

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    Javier Vasquez is considering a comeback.
     
  39. BlameItOnTheHenne

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  40. Ray Finkle

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    Jason Bay is now a FA. He and the Mets reached an agreement to buy out the rest of his contract. Today about an awful deal almost from the 1st day he signed that contract. I feel bad for him though, he's a good guy and I don't think his poor seasons were because of a lack of effort. When some players just lose it, they lose it quick.
     

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