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**Official Franchise Expansion Game Thread**

Discussion in '2012 GM League Forum' started by schisno, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    ok. You're the boss. :wink2:


    With the 33rd pick of the NFL draft, the Pahrump NickelHoes trade up their pick to select Ryan Tannehill, QB Texas A&M. :shifty:
     
  2. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    Hey now, you know the rule he was picked in the mock. You and your illegal picks.
     
  3. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    can I trade the 33rd pick for three future 1st rounders?
     
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  4. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    Here is a solution that I have come up with for other rounds.

    Traditionally the expansion franchises get the 1st/2nd overall picks. Since I already put a mock in place, everyone from that mock and the selections you use for #33 and 34 respectively are off the table.

    I then randomize picks #1 through 8 in the second round for you guys, and you each take turn picking rookies. If the guy you wanted is taken in front too bad he's gone.

    Then we use the website rankings until the last 8 picks in round 3 and you guys draft from there again.

    It allows you to have your rookie class from rounds 1-3, and if it works well enough for you guys we can go all the way to round 7.
     
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  5. Boik14

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    New York
    OL Bryant McKinnie $3,500,000

    Last round for the night for me
     
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  6. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    only in the keeper league.
     
  7. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I have no idea what you just said.
     
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  8. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    lightweight. :shifty:

    The LA Sexpress... select with their 10th pick, LB Larry Foote
     
  9. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    schisno... can I PM you my next four picks?
     
  10. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    After everyone has drafted their 33rd or 34th pick in the draft.

    I take the 8 GMs in this expansion league, give them picks #35 to #43 (randomize who gets what pick) we draft like its a normal draft. Anyone that has been drafted in the mock draft, with the #33s and #34s are no longer available to draft.

    Then after you guys draft #35 to #43, I use the prospect rankings from a website until I hit say number #96, then you guys draft from #97 to #105 and so on.

    Any further clarifications?
     
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  11. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    yup, not a problem.
     
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  12. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    You're gonna let us have round 3 with pick 65-73, right?... and for that we can use players rated from 60-90 to allow margin for error since players always fall. And then repeat it again for round 4 using players rated from 90 to infinity?
     
  13. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. This way it allows for a semi-real draft containing alternate realities of new expansion franchises. I'd hate to be one of the voters cause they would have to consider how the time space continuim would collapse in on itself.
     
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  14. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Yeah... I mean, it could be the only way to distinguish some of our teams. Which is sort of nerve racking.
     
  15. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Or... how's this. In order for us to draft a few more players, and since we're not afforded the top of the first round, we each be allowed 2 picks 33, 34, 35, 36.

    And then from there we jump to the top of round 3, have 2 more picks using nfldraftscout's big board (players rated 60 and above which allows for margin for error since a few players always fall etc). Only this time the other team picks first.

    And then we can just to round 4, 2 more picks, use players rated 90+, and the teams that picked first in the 2nd round would pick first again.

    That gives 6 picks within the first 4 rounds..... and pushes us to 20 players, leaving us only 2 short of a starting roster.
    We could just to round 5 to give us 22 players, but that's up to you.


    Just an idea. But it might be more fun and allow for more strategy.
     
  16. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    Yup, and I figure it will give 8...er 7 of you guys some practice for the real GML draft later. I think it's the most appropriate route. So once the last two pairings finish their drafts, and everyone has drafted #33 & #34, I will randomize the draft order for rounds 2 to 7
     
  17. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    good point about the distinguishing. It possibly might be better for judging purposes if we use my above post. ??????

    6 picks in rounds 2-4? I like that. lol.

    Instead of the 8th pick in the draft for example, we get the end of the first round and an extra 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. That probably equals out on the trade chart I would think.

    It'd be like the draft snaked and the 2 expansion teams picking last in the 1st round would pick first in the 2nd round, which is completely fair IMO.
     
  18. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    That could be an interesting way of doing it, we should let the other guys finish their expansion draft and maybe I'll take back everyone's 33s and 34s. I will take the 4 guys who would have had 33 randomize them in order of the first four. You guys with the 34 would be the back 4. Then randomize it one last time for rounds 2-7 and we'll just snake it.
     
  19. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    you wouldn't have to take back the 33s & 34's b/c that wouldn't change.

    For instance.
    I pick 33.
    FinOoops picks 34.
    I pick 35.
    Ooops picks 36.

    Then we jump to the top of round 3 (using the big board of players ranked from 60+)
    Oops picks
    I pick.
    Ooops again.
    Me.

    Then we just to top of the 4th and repeat using players ranked 90+.
    I pick
    Ooops screws one up.
    I pick
    Ooops screws another.


    That sounds great IMO. But it's your league and you've done a great job with everything so far, so don't let me step on toes if everyone doesn't like the idea.
     
  20. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Sorry, I didn't read through the entire post before my last response.


    you lost me.. I mean Paul again. lol.
     
  21. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    ok, I get it now, Schis. That could work. I wouldn't mind that.


    As long as we're snaking picks and getting 2 in the 2nd, 2 in the 3rd, 2 in the 4th.... and maybe 1 in the 5th, I'd be ecstatic with it. That's 7 rounds, upwards of 23 players per team, and the draft would be more life like which would lead to more dissimilarity among teams. That's ok with me.

    And maybe at the end, we could somehow throw in a pot of FA guys that we bid on or what have you to push us to a 30 man roster so that we can better see the vision each GM has (the ability to run different schemes on both sides of the ball, especially since some of us already have 3 CBs lol).
     
  22. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    So what we will want to do is start at #33, all four of the following BuckeyeKing, ToddsPhins, Paul13, GridIronKing34 who originally had #33, would be randomized for draft positions #33, 34, 35, 36.

    Then I would take those who had #34 Skeet84, Fin-Omenal, Boik14, BigE, and randomize them for #37, 38, 39, 40.

    We would then start at #41 where I randomize all eight of you for positions #41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48

    Then I would use the draftboard rankings until round 3, and whoever had 48 goes first in round three and we snake backwards

    repeat for the rest of the draft.
     
  23. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    **** that ****... I must have my 33rd pick, I built my whole team around it... :shifty: I say we keep the 33rd/34th the way it was, then randomize after that.
     
  24. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Perfect. Ignore my last post if you're reading it before I can delete it which might happen b/c I'm taking too long to type this message b/c I've misspelled numerous words and have had to retype them. Again, ignore my above post.
     
  25. ToddsPhins

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    :tongue2:


    I thought you liked your team? Not as confident in them anymore? :shifty:
     
  26. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I like my team with my 33rd pick. Must have him... He completes me...
     
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  27. Skeet84

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    Wtf is going on?!?!?
     
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  28. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I'm going to bed... not that Boik is still up... Schisno, you have my bulletin board. If you need it, use it. Otherwise, I'll check in in the morning and see how things are going. Good night now!
     
  29. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    It would look more like
    (random set of original #33 owners)
    33. BuckeyeKing
    34. ToddsPhins
    35. Paul13
    36. GridIronKing34

    (random set of #34 owners)
    37. Skeet84,
    38. Fin-Omenal,
    39. Boik14,
    40. BigE

    (Take all 8 randomize your next picks "Round 2"
    41. Paul 13
    42.
    43.
    44.
    45.
    46.
    47.
    48. ToddsPhins

    (Draftboard Ranking 60+)

    96. ToddsPhins
    97.
    98.
    99.
    100.
    101.
    102.
    103. Paul

    repeat with rankigs 90+
     
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  30. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    this... THIS!!
     
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  31. ToddsPhins

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    You know what's be funny. [The GMs who aren't with us right now] when they try and catch back up, if they don't skip to the last page first, they'll read through a ton of meaningless confusing crap for nothing or have no fuggin idea what's going on. :chuckle:
     
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  32. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    sorry, playing around with an expanded rookie draft model.
     
  33. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    :chuckle:

    reference post #187. :chuckle:
     
  34. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    see, I'll go with the 33rd pick randomizer that you posted schisno, with me being third behind Buckeye (Weeden) and Todd (??) as long as Todd's ?? isn't my guy :tongue2:...
     
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  35. ToddsPhins

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    That works.... except you're leaving out the 3rd round and jumping to the 4th. :shifty:
     
  36. ToddsPhins

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    Simpletons. I swear. :shifty:





    With this perplexity involving numbers it's a good thing you're not like an accountant or anything. :whistling:
     
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  37. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    I am taking back all the picks, and currently randomizing all draft positions for a 7 round draft.

    I apologize for any confusion this causes, but this is a new League idea I am working with, there is some hiccups as we try and work out the kinks. Sorry again guys, but I want this to be fair for everyone as much as possible.

    Posting New draft orders shortly here.
     
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  38. ToddsPhins

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    In a physical sense? :groucho:
     
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  39. ToddsPhins

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    hahaha.

    Don't worry buddy, I'll pick for you. :wink2:
     
  40. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    No need to apologize Schis. Confusion, yes, but you just made it better for all. More competitive, more realistic, a little longer lasting, and more enjoyable since most of us love draft time. It's ideal right now IMO, and it allows our teams to grow off in their own direction and take on an actual identity and judge it. Makes it more fun to track the team as well IMO.

    If you like, perhaps we could also add in separate FA after the fact to give us roughly a 30 man roster. Perhaps use this year's FAs (removing the ones that teams are likely to franchise), and we're all given a set dollar amount to use up in a bidding fashion where it's completely private. Maybe a 3rd party can be PM'd the bids so that no one knows what the bid amounts are and the highest bid for each player gets him.
     

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