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I think Serra will win this fight.

Hughes is truly a one-trick-pony, his only strength is wrestling and ground and pound.

Serra has decent stand-up, with a lot of power in his hands, and he has outstanding jiu-jitsu.

Hughes isn't good enough at jiu-jitsu to submit a guy like Serra, and is incapable of knocking out ANYBODY. His only hope to win the fight is to take Serra down and lay n' pray his way to a W.

Serra has more options to win the fight. He could KO Hughes, or he could submit him.

I think that Hughes' is going to get KTFO'd. He is no longer the physical specimen he was when he ruled the roost at 170. He's lost a step, and he's lost some of that famous strength. The fact is that he doesn't have the technique to compensate for his declining physicality. Hughes is too cocky to think that he has to change his game, and that has been his undoing.

Serra is going to be ready for the takedown attempts, and will pick him apart on the feet.

Serra by KO rd. 2.

you reasoning about Matt Hughes losing makes some sense to me, but on the other hand Serra had one moment in MMA; he caught GSP, rocked him, and finished that fight.

but before and since that fight, he has shown me nothing to make me think he can do it again.

agreed 100%. litterly, nothing, zero..

"enforcerfin33 wrote:

Because he was a pompous idiot when he was a coach. I actually cheered for him when he was a comp. on the show. But when he was a coach he was arrogant and disrespectful and it rubbed ALOT of people the wrong way. Kind of like Bisping is doing this yr. I lost alot of respect for him when he missed one of his fighters fight because "he overslept".

isn't hughes an ass also??

"unluckyluciano wrote:

isn't hughes an ass also??

Well yeh, but he's not disrespectful, IMO.

i could careless about attitudes personally, i dont like either one, their fighters. i dont care to like them on a personal level, but atleast Hughes was once good, Serra litterly had one lucky fight and the only reason hes still in the UFC is because of his attitude if he was the quite respectful type no one would give a **** about the guy

"enforcerfin33 wrote:

Well yeh, but he's not disrespectful, IMO.

well he had a habit of talking ish to serra that he was a one hit wonder. I'd say thats pretty disrespectful. I really don't like either one, but I wouldn't base who I want to win on which one is the lesser ass :lol:

"charlestonphan wrote:

you reasoning about Matt Hughes losing makes some sense to me, but on the other hand Serra had one moment in MMA; he caught GSP, rocked him, and finished that fight.

but before and since that fight, he has shown me nothing to make me think he can do it again.

Serra is underrated, IMO. The guy has been in really close fights with some really good fighters. He took BJ Penn and Karo Parisyan to decision, he beat Yves Edwards, and not to beat a dead horse, he KO'd St. Pierre.

Is Serra a KO artist? No. But I believe that Matt Hughes' stand up is still so piss-poor that Matt Serra will dominate on the feet. Hughes has shown is his last 4 fights (his win over Lytle was NOT impressive) that he isn't the dominating fighter he used to be. Like Chuck Liddell, Hughes is a guy who refuses to change, hasn't significantly evolved his skills, and sticks with the same gameplan for every fight.

"enforcerfin33 wrote:

Because he was a pompous idiot when he was a coach. I actually cheered for him when he was a comp. on the show. But when he was a coach he was arrogant and disrespectful and it rubbed ALOT of people the wrong way. Kind of like Bisping is doing this yr. I lost alot of respect for him when he missed one of his fighters fight because "he overslept".

Never heard about that bc I gave up on that show.

That makes more sense then. Missing a fighters fight bc of oversleeping is horrible.

i think the "I overslept" excuse is just that; a fan friendly excuse.

to me, Bisping is the most babied fighter in the UFC. it seems as though all his fights are in the UK, and he has avoided fighting anybody really impressive thus far.

i understand why they are doing it though. they want to tap into the UK market, and then into the rest of europe, and feel the need to have a "superstar" from England to market to the Brits.

curious to see what caused him to throw water in the face of the American fighter in next weeks episode of TUF. to me, as a coach, Bisping has gotta be above that stuff.

"charlestonphan wrote:

i think the "I overslept" excuse is just that; a fan friendly excuse.

to me, Bisping is the most babied fighter in the UFC. it seems as though all his fights are in the UK, and he has avoided fighting anybody really impressive thus far.

i understand why they are doing it though. they want to tap into the UK market, and then into the rest of europe, and feel the need to have a "superstar" from England to market to the Brits.

curious to see what caused him to throw water in the face of the American fighter in next weeks episode of TUF. to me, as a coach, Bisping has gotta be above that stuff.

Yeah I never liked bisping. I never thought he was that good of a fighter to begin with. I agree with everything you said here.

"unluckyluciano wrote:

Yeah I never liked bisping. I never thought he was that good of a fighter to begin with. I agree with everything you said here.

If he wouldn't have hurt the deaf guy in practice he would have won the show, IMO.

anyone have a working link?

"slickj101 wrote:

anyone have a working link?

This for now...
http://www.freesportsnetwork.net/

Hughes by descision

http://www.justin.tv/mydickanjtvowner

Machida by KTFO!

"Mari0k wrote:

Hughes by descision

http://www.justin.tv/mydickanjtvowner

Machida by KTFO!

Dammn. The stream worked just long enough for me to see Evans get peeled off the ground.

Did Hughes win definitively over Serra?

"slickj101 wrote:

Dammn. The stream worked just long enough for me to see Evans get peeled off the ground.

Did Hughes win definitively over Serra?

i was link hoping at the time, saw the end of first, and the descision. I know Serra rocked him in the beginning, but then Highes did what he does, and just ragged him down and GnPnd him. Serra didint make excuses tho, so win is a win.

I thought winner will get their ass handed to them by Rampage regardless...but I dont know now. Machida looks dangerous, and Rampage looked meh, vs very mediocre Jardine.

serra "rocked" hughes in the first because of a head butt......hughes didnt do much....but he won.....i dunno about it being unanimous.....but he won none-the-less....

machida is F'ing scary......

"SickFinFan33 wrote:

serra "rocked" hughes in the first because of a head butt......hughes didnt do much....but he won.....i dunno about it being unanimous.....but he won none-the-less....

machida is F'ing scary......

Im not 100% sold on Machida. Id say 85%.
He is good, and very unorthodox. He is definitely a top guy. but i always suspected Rashad of being overrated. IF he does Rampage the way he did Evans, than holy s#$t, he is scary.

Regardless, great win. Both fighters were classy, thats good to see. Serra and Hughes kissed and made up, bout time with that, too.

"Mari0k wrote:

Im not 100% sold on Machida. Id say 85%.
He is good, and very unorthodox. He is definitely a top guy. but i always suspected Rashad of being overrated. IF he does Rampage the way he did Evans, than holy s#$t, he is scary.

Regardless, great win. Both fighters were classy, thats good to see. Serra and Hughes kissed and made up, bout time with that, too.

I think Rampage has more power than Evans.

His chin still hasn't been that great lately and I could also see Machida leg kicking him to death.

Rampage is going to have to train his ass off to win that one.

I thought Serra won the fight. He won rounds 1 and 3 IMO. I think Matt Hughes knew it too. That's the problem with boxing judges scoring MMA fights.

Machida is a monster. Rampage's only hope is to land a big shot he doesn't see coming. He's the most powerful guy in the division, but his hands and overall game isn't nearly as fast as Evans. Rampage has a great chin. But you get caught with enough of the right stuff and you go.

Machida is just so dynamic. He could rule the division for awhile IMO.

"Muck wrote:

I thought Serra won the fight. He won rounds 1 and 3 IMO. I think Matt Hughes knew it too. That's the problem with boxing judges scoring MMA fights.

Machida is a monster. Rampage's only hope is to land a big shot he doesn't see coming. He's the most powerful guy in the division, but his hands and overall game isn't nearly as fast as Evans. Rampage has a great chin. But you get caught with enough of the right stuff and you go.

Machida is just so dynamic. He could rule the division for awhile IMO.

He has an OKAY chin, and thats coming from a rampage fan.

Exactly, I think he will stay on top until somebody 1) Just catches him with one (which is very doubtful, with his style) or 2) figures him out. There is a counter-strike to everything. Somebody will just have to figure it out.

the Hughes/Serra fight told me one thing; it is time for both these guys to get out. Matt Hughes looked in really good shape as usual, but that did not play out in the fight. he was gassing, and so was Serra by the second round.

Serra won round one (he benefited from a inadvertant headbutt that rocked Hughes), no question, and Hughes won the second round, no question.

round three, was a snooze fest really. both guys were gassed. Hughes took him down about a minute in, but couldn't pass guard, and after controlling him in half guard for most of the round and landing some sporadic G&P, there was a scramble, and Serra ended up on top, and landed some good shots in the last 25 seconds.

i was surprised by the unanimous decision; i really thought it would be a split decision going one way or the other, and it would be hard to argue against either way.

guess the judges scored the third round being controlled mostly by Hughes in his favor, over the reverse at the end by Serra.

as for Machida/Evans... Machida as a striker was clearly better than Rashad. he got off more punches and kicks by far, and was far more confident.

i dont recall Evans even attempting a takedown. i realize Machida has good BJJ skills to go with his Karate/striking skills, but still, how do you completely fight your opponents fight like that, standing up, as the champion?

Evans has got one punch KO power, but that's not going to be what carries him in MMA.

same thing could be said about Hughes, he barely attempted to take down Serra, and let Serra dictate the pace and initiate. plus Hughes fought lefty again, which makes me think his knee is still an issue and he is protecting it.

"Muck wrote:

I thought Serra won the fight. He won rounds 1 and 3 IMO. I think Matt Hughes knew it too. That's the problem with boxing judges scoring MMA fights.

Machida is a monster. Rampage's only hope is to land a big shot he doesn't see coming. He's the most powerful guy in the division, but his hands and overall game isn't nearly as fast as Evans. Rampage has a great chin. But you get caught with enough of the right stuff and you go.

Machida is just so dynamic. He could rule the division for awhile IMO.

i thought Hughes won just because he controlled the fight. even though it was a boring win.

Machida is a monster, i like his game a lot. i like Evans game a lot to though. i didnt know who was going to win, but one of my boys refused to admit Machida was nice, so i decided to bet him a lower amount of money Machida would win. appreciate the money Machida!

also i think Rampage would be a different fight then this one. he would be a more aggressive and physical i think, then Evans. im not to sure who i think would win that one, if i had to pick one today it would be Machida..

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