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  1. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    first of all....its madden. a video game. this isnt that big of a deal.

    secondly, i ran 60% 3-4 30% 4-3 and 10% nickle/dime packages. besides, running the same defense (which i dont) is not close to the same level as taking advantage of a flaw in the game to win. its just not.

    your making it seem like its a base defense that i cant get past and iam fustrated. no.

    i snap the ball and immediatley iam sacked. thats bs.

    but like i said, keep running it, sure....im not banning it from the league (ill leave that to the league to decide)

    its just lame, and a cheap *****-out move to do it over and over again.
     
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  2. Fin-Omenal

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    Havent played Abome so I cant speak on it....

    But a nano is basically a pass rush generated because the OL (wich is the computer) is tricked nearly everytime into letting a man rush right in because of something as petty as "he put his guy 2yards back from the LOS and 2 clicks to the left"

    If someone is doing that, its quite "cheesy" although some people can counter these glitches...all in all it becomes more about what you KNOW HOW TO DO rather than gameskill.

    If anyone is doing stuff like that then I guess more power to them, but fact is Madden has became SO competitive that these "Nanos" are used religously at big tournaments and high dollar games.
     
  3. aboome

    aboome Resident Madden God Club Member

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    You ran the same zone d the whole 1st game (just because its not high pressure does not make it not gay) and the 2nd game u change up a bit.
    passing to your TE all game is also pretty lame (but not a flaw GTFOH) but u don't hear me complaining
    you say ur immediatley sacked that is the point of a engage 8, shoot and if you don't like it go to shotgun smarty pants throw some quick passes keep more people into block,stop trying to run slow developing tosses and post patterns over the middle, do wat u did the second game and run screens don't start crying because im not playing to let you win. ( it crazy! I have played a bunch of different people in this league no one has complained but after i play u there is talk of outlawing my D) Sick im not changing my scheme no matter how much you cry. all i can say is practice and improve your game because as the saying goes "there is always someone bigger, stronger, faster, samrter, etc than you" (in this case me in madden)
     
  4. Fin-Omenal

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    If it was really an engage eight then I personally have no complaints...
     
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  5. aboome

    aboome Resident Madden God Club Member

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    Yea that is a nano, but what i did was a overload blitz sick would keep 5 guys to block 7 that is the reason his qb was hit every time. at no point in our game did his oline look like a carousel and let my players threw without touching em. like i said before use the line shift, if you see pressure coming from the weak side then keep ur back and into block shift to that side (vice versa strong side with TE) Dont start yelling that's cheap! don't keep sending 5 receiver on pass patterns protect your franchise.
     
  6. aboome

    aboome Resident Madden God Club Member

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    Bro we need to play and then u can be the judge of what he is complaining about
     
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  7. Crappy Tipper

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    OK, I blitz a lot anybody that I've played will tell you the same but I run a very varied defense, that's not the point though by virtue of my giving up a about 35 points per game you can tell I"m not very good at it :lol:

    Now let's talk offense people keep getting bent out of shape about flats and underneath stuff to TE's and RB's.

    Where is the beef with this? If everyone else is covered why wouldn't I take the open option? I'm sure as **** not going to force it to a WR just so I can say that I didn't dump it off to the FB - that's just ******ed.

    I average about 20 completions per game, (about 6 1/2 are to C. Johnson) and the rest are pretty even through the RB's, FB, TE and other WR's
     
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  8. Crappy Tipper

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    See ya week 17 :yes:
     
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  9. aboome

    aboome Resident Madden God Club Member

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    Great point crappy:up: look at all the huge plays my D gives up its a high risk high reward type of D so its not Cheap what is cheap is when someone complains because they don't want to adjust and feels like they are entitled to get the win.:tongue2::loser:
     
  10. Starry31

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    So far everyone I've played has been pretty straight and I hope they think the same about me. Sorry Bo$$, MJD breaking 7 tackles like the Incredible Hulk isn't my fault, kid has a mind of his own. Of course the definition of "cheesey" I'm sure would vary between each person. Only thing I've seen to kinda raise my eyebrow was an out of franchise game where the RE was lined up right on top of the LE. In my opinion, kind of takes advantage of the CPU AI. Left side will block their side (nothing) and right tackle picks up one end, while the other is untouched. There are ways to combat that and it didn't count in the franchise so I didn't complain, but what you guys think?

    ps. Guys are really stealing Garrett Wolfe's spotlight.
     
  11. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    As long as we agree that this "NANO Blitz" or any other Cheat is not used, cool by me....simply put, anything in MADDEN that the Industry labels as a "CHEAT" should be avoided. Its not whether they can be beaten, the take advantage of glitches and the INDUSTRY frowns on them to the point of labeling CHEATS, so just avoid them.

    All else is fair game and I agree "a STOP IT if you dont LIKE IT" type approach is fine...you dont like my touchdown dance...than stop letting me get in the endzone type response...just avoid any CHEATS as part of the reasons.

    AGREED???
     
  12. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Nano blitzes are cbeap to those who can't stop them. Honestly I do vote they are banned, though it doesn't impact me because I can beat them
     
  13. SICK

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    i dont think they should be banned all game. but to use it the majority of the time? thats ****ing tiresome.
     
  14. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Again, its not a question of can they be beaten, its avoiding any tactic labeled as a game CHEAT.:up:
     
  15. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Was that mme? Imo that's not a cheat or glitch because simply shading the line blocks them both, and a shotgun run kills it. Though I don't even do that anymore so its moot.
     
  16. aboome

    aboome Resident Madden God Club Member

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    do u really want to open pandoras box? well since tosses are greatly effective then we should limit that, pass to a good TE are hard to stop we should limit that, **** anything that results in me losing we should limit:up: im not saying dont outlaw cheats but i dont want people to say my high pressure d is a cheat because it can be beat like i said earlier its high risk high reward
     
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  17. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    An overload blitz with people in the right place is a nano...I'm not saying you cheat or that you're lying. I haven't played you or seen a highlight of plays in question.
     
  18. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    I'm not clear on what constitutes a nano. If you find something effective in the game that LOOKS like normal football you should be able to use it until someone can stop it.
     
  19. SICK

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    not getting that logic. but here ya go

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqyjtNEoYEg"]YouTube- Madden 10 Nano Blitz (Nickel 1-5-5) - Cover 2 Sink (MaddenBuffs.Com)[/ame]

    if its as basic as "football blitzing" then you shouldnt need a ****in instruction manual. if you watch that video, the ravens clearly have both runningbacks in to block from a shotgun formation, regardless its a sack. its an obvious flaw in the game that is taken advantage of by inferior defenders. like i said, doing it once or 4 times. sure. but being in that formation every play is tiresome, and obviously not just being good at defense, its taking advantage of a flaw.

    if you watch this video

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTsatITiAOc"]YouTube- Madden 10 Nano Blitz :: Nickel Odd Split - Monster 3[/ame]

    you see clearly before the video ends, the left guard looks right at the blitzing mlb, but chooses to go for the outside rusher (DT) which is unrealistic because lineman since little league are taught to block the inside guy, its an exploit of the **** AI of offensive lineman on this game, plain and simple. i didnt stop aboome defensivley (maybe i should have played a cheap D) but the fact is....it was used more than 90% of the time against me. He obviously very defensive about being called out on it....

    but the fact is, google it, its everywhere. its a classic exploit used by guys online to boost their wins online (aka grow their E-*****) so let aboome use it, he obviously couldnt beat me playing basic defenses like everyone else does

    all i know is, i have wayyyy more respect for raffie, the dude beat me fair and square 2 years in a row, the kid does it right, hope he gets back next season.

    Good luck aboome, iam done talking about it, because instead of discussing it, you seem to quickly use words like "cry" "*****" "complain" and smart *** comebacks. its a video game, you joined late and took the super bowl champ saints, and now think your hot **** cause you use a exploit to shut down (still got 30+ points) on the supposed best player in the league, so now iam crying cause i lost :lol:

    i didnt do this **** after losing a very important game to raffie last year. there isnt a "cry after a loss" bone in my body, i could careless if i lose. if i lose fairly. i didnt. so iam bringing it up.
     
  20. Bpk

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    Wow. This whole thing is getting kinda intense.

    Can't we all just get along.
     
  21. SICK

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    im done with it, i got 2 cpu games left to lock up the nfc south. then its playoff time.

    i do know, its getting lost in all this.....i couldnt stop ramsey ****ing barden and david eat **** carr.....so i deserve to lose regardless because of that :lol:

    aboome is def a very very good madden player, so i dont want that to get lost in all this, i just think using that exploit is lame. but maybe its just me and iam a n00b.
     
  22. Fin-Omenal

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    If its an overload blitz then its not a nano because the computer CANT block more defenders than they have blockers, Ive played people in the past who could nano and have 7-8 guys in coverage....thats shi--y because the pressure is generated by exploiting the OL ability to pick up things.

    Infact if he is doing an overload having not played him before I would think you could beat that with the slightest adjustment? Obviously not I guess if no one can beat the guy..

    Yea Id like to play ya Aboome I wont b in the playoffs so you wont be giving anything away.
     
  23. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    A nano is more about confusing tge blockers than how many guys are coming. I mean, it can make your line not picj up the right players as well.
     
  24. Fin-Omenal

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    Right but if he is bringing 7-8 defenders it doesnt matter how smart the computer is or isnt thats just strength in numbers.
     
  25. SICK

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    Not really considering u keep a fb and te to block and someone sacks the qb up the middle before you get to drop 1 of a 3 step drop
     
  26. aboome

    aboome Resident Madden God Club Member

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    Well im happy to say that I don't use any of the plays you listed. you keep saying I used the same play 90% of the time, now that is lol cause my D play call at least doubles your little *** DSMH. but Sick if you really think that im good because Im using a High rated team then give me the Raiders or maybe the bills and I would still warm ur ***. I'm just saying if you feel this way about my game im afraid what your going to say when we play agian and I have Brees back little warning for you tho be ready because I will not hold back my offense for you
     
  27. SICK

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    ok.
     
  28. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    That explains it. I had no idea about that cheat. I was wondering how the Saints was sacking Flacco so fast, so constantly.
     
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  29. SICK

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    so you tell us....am i just complaining cause i lost? or is it a severe flaw in the game thats being taken advantage of?
     
  30. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I think it is a flaw in the game that is being taken advantage of. I do agree that it is also tiresome. It isn't 100% slam dunk defense that works all the time. Took me a full half to figure out how to beat it.
     
  31. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    This is true in a sense. However in a normal blitz the OL will pick up the defender closest to the QB. In a nano they won't. Also in a nano you play delayed bump and run so the player actually CAN'T throw the ball to WRs.
     
  32. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    yea, receivers are not smart enough to break their routes.

    Aboome would also move the safety over to bump and run with the tight end.
     
  33. SICK

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    true, happened all game
     
  34. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    That is the definition.Of a nano
     
  35. Crappy Tipper

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    I have the biggest logistic question of the bunch here.

    Let's say that we play the Saints. How can we really substantiate the claim that the loss was because of this "nano" thing? It isn't like you can reverse the outcome of a game.

    If it's a clear cheat or exploit then I'm all for "banning" it from the league (in so much as you can ban this type of thing - kind of an honor system).

    If it's a certain legit play that just has people pulling their hair out it's another thing all together. It's up to the consensus I guess to determine which.

    All I give a damn about is playing is a straight up league played within the boundaries of what we all consider reasonable.

    All I'm saying, and I'm not saying that any of you ARE doing this is let's just make sure we don't lynch the guy for beating us because we lost instead of because there were questionable tactics employed.
     
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  36. aboome

    aboome Resident Madden God Club Member

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    I dont play man all game and my boundary cb dont press the wr

    I would user bump ur te yall talking about a flaw how about any run of the mill TE beating a allstar mlb like Urlacher or Vilma yea there is no double standard.

    go look at the video of the Jets video I posted and tell me they pick up all the inside rushers first. by the way aint u the guy that grabs Ernie Sims and goes to the opposite side of the field because the oline dosent pick u up, unless the player shifts his line, my A gap blitz does the same thing so Alex dont throw rocks when u live in a glass house bro
    okay my next opponent tell me what D to run so I can make u happy, I will drop all my players into coverage so u can run tosses and I can give u all the time u want shoot u'll have time to make a nice Martha Stewart cake for all I care.

    I just hope everyone is treated fairly because the quick pass to the TE on a slant stop, hb quick pass to the flats and toss to a fast rb can be seen as cheap too. but since some one finds a counter for that scheme it has to be considered a exploit or flaw in the game.

    now its over.
     
  37. aboome

    aboome Resident Madden God Club Member

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    Nah bro really never got to that level, were just two highly competitive guys in the same division
     
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  38. Fin-Omenal

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    Damn I wish I was going to be in the playoffs with all these dudes......

    Can we hurry and finish THIS season so maybe we can get one more in?
     
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  39. SICK

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    True. I frigging love/hate aboome. Bastard :lol:
     
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  40. Bpk

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    ONE more!?!? Only ONE???

    I'm playing at least two or three more seasons. The hell with Madden 11. Even if I buy it I'll continue this.
     
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