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Ok...I'm lost on nano blitzing myself. I looked it up, and it send like it's a really fast sack? So my question is, what constitutes a nano blitz? Are people glitching blockers out of the play to get A direct shot at the QB? Cause that'd be nasty. We have some very blitz happy teams in our league, and I've gotten some wide open shots at the QB (Torian Watts FTW!), but I haven't seen nor thought that I've done anything illegal.

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Mor pick up Peterson and White already, seeing high rated defensive free agents is way too tempting man. lol Just messing, but it is tempting...

Garrett Wolfe signed with the Jaguars today, adding some RB depth for the Jags after Shagg Makino broke his jaw against the Titans. Makino is expected to be back in time for the playoffs, but with MJD likely seeing less snaps the next two games Wolfe could see a lot of action with Rashad Jennings. Wolfe said he was thrilled to be part of a great organization and looks forward to contributing in any way he can.

"BigDogsHunt wrote:

Well, the INDUSTRY labels them as CHEATs and thats good enough for me. It isnt about whether you can still overcome them, its an integrity thing. Hopefully if anyone was thinking about using them, they shouldnt, and anyone who did use them, should stop....NO CHEATS or GLITCHES its a gentlemen's agreement and this league is about having some fun and about playing madden and building a team to compete straight up and NO CHEATS or stuff the INDUSTRY turns a bad eye toward should be part of it.

MY 2 cents.....hopefully we have every other owner feel the same, or at least bring it to a vote to play honestly if it ever came to that.

P.S. I played Aboome in week 5, and if he did this, I dont specifically recall, but from the video, and from what Alex states, apparently some of the things I did, helped me pull out the win...that said, still dont like the idea of anyone purposefully using CHEATs in this league.

"daphins wrote:

Ok...I'm lost on nano blitzing myself. I looked it up, and it send like it's a really fast sack? So my question is, what constitutes a nano blitz? Are people glitching blockers out of the play to get A direct shot at the QB? Cause that'd be nasty. We have some very blitz happy teams in our league, and I've gotten some wide open shots at the QB (Torian Watts FTW!), but I haven't seen nor thought that I've done anything illegal.

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"Alex44 wrote:

I personally don't use nanos. It takes the fun out of defense. I've never played Aboome but I've heard from an anonymous player that he may indeed use them. They aren't cheating IMO because they are easily destroyed. Which is why I'm giving him a heads up lol

I dont Nano I overload biltz and if what im doing is wrong then this should be also
YouTube- Ray Lewis stops the Chargers do u consider this a nano?

"aboome wrote:

I dont Nano I overload biltz and if what im doing is wrong then this should be also
YouTube- Ray Lewis stops the Chargers do u consider this a nano?

difference is, they dont do that every single play. the point of this league is to see whos better playing this game.....with different formations, defenses, offenses, etc. its no longer fun or a challenge to beat someone if all iam doing is throwin to deangelo williams in the flats because you set up in that defense 96% of the time. which you do. i still almost won. but i think its a joke to run that defense everytime, like alex said it takes the fun out of everything. its no longer set up the run to set up the pass. its "get rid of the ball quick cause hes abusing an obvious flaw in a video game"

thats no fun. but keep doing it if its the only way to stop people. i guess thats fun......?

"SICK wrote:

difference is, they dont do that every single play. the point of this league is to see whos better playing this game.....with different formations, defenses, offenses, etc. its no longer fun or a challenge to beat someone if all iam doing is throwin to deangelo williams in the flats because you set up in that defense 96% of the time. which you do. i still almost won. but i think its a joke to run that defense everytime, like alex said it takes the fun out of everything. its no longer set up the run to set up the pass. its "get rid of the ball quick cause hes abusing an obvious flaw in a video game"

thats no fun. but keep doing it if its the only way to stop people. i guess thats fun......?

Sick don't try and play the you run the same play card! if ur in a big set I will call a run D out of that formation when u went into shotgun i ran a different formation so that argument is a mega fail!
do i biltz? you bet your ass i do now dont cry because they are affective. if what you are trying isn't working then change your scheme up, that is the point of the game.

any way its crazy I have played about 10 games in this league and no one complained about my play style but now that i play sick and he gets out beat on then starts to bitch now everyone is cosigning with him. Now lets talk about ur d for a min, running the same 3-4 cover 2 all game dropping back 8 and rushing 3 because u have peppers so don't say that i run the same plays buddy that your lost like a man and leave the drama for the women bro

"aboome wrote:

Sick don't try and play the you run the same play card! if ur in a big set I will call a run D out of that formation when u went into shotgun i ran a different formation so that argument is a mega fail!
do i biltz? you bet your ass i do now dont cry because they are affective. if what you are trying isn't working then change your scheme up, that is the point of the game.

any way its crazy I have played about 10 games in this league and no one complained about my play style but now that i play sick and he gets out beat on then starts to bitch now everyone is cosigning with him. Now lets talk about ur d for a min, running the same 3-4 cover 2 all game dropping back 8 and rushing 3 because u have peppers so don't say that i run the same plays buddy that your lost like a man and leave the drama for the women bro

first of all....its madden. a video game. this isnt that big of a deal.

secondly, i ran 60% 3-4 30% 4-3 and 10% nickle/dime packages. besides, running the same defense (which i dont) is not close to the same level as taking advantage of a flaw in the game to win. its just not.

your making it seem like its a base defense that i cant get past and iam fustrated. no.

i snap the ball and immediatley iam sacked. thats bs.

but like i said, keep running it, sure....im not banning it from the league (ill leave that to the league to decide)

its just lame, and a cheap bitch-out move to do it over and over again.

Havent played Abome so I cant speak on it....

But a nano is basically a pass rush generated because the OL (wich is the computer) is tricked nearly everytime into letting a man rush right in because of something as petty as "he put his guy 2yards back from the LOS and 2 clicks to the left"

If someone is doing that, its quite "cheesy" although some people can counter these glitches...all in all it becomes more about what you KNOW HOW TO DO rather than gameskill.

If anyone is doing stuff like that then I guess more power to them, but fact is Madden has became SO competitive that these "Nanos" are used religously at big tournaments and high dollar games.

"SICK wrote:

first of all....its madden. a video game. this isnt that big of a deal.

secondly, i ran 60% 3-4 30% 4-3 and 10% nickle/dime packages. besides, running the same defense (which i dont) is not close to the same level as taking advantage of a flaw in the game to win. its just not.

your making it seem like its a base defense that i cant get past and iam fustrated. no.

i snap the ball and immediatley iam sacked. thats bs.

but like i said, keep running it, sure....im not banning it from the league (ill leave that to the league to decide)

its just lame, and a cheap bitch-out move to do it over and over again.

You ran the same zone d the whole 1st game (just because its not high pressure does not make it not gay) and the 2nd game u change up a bit.
passing to your TE all game is also pretty lame (but not a flaw GTFOH) but u don't hear me complaining
you say ur immediatley sacked that is the point of a engage 8, shoot and if you don't like it go to shotgun smarty pants throw some quick passes keep more people into block,stop trying to run slow developing tosses and post patterns over the middle, do wat u did the second game and run screens don't start crying because im not playing to let you win. ( it crazy! I have played a bunch of different people in this league no one has complained but after i play u there is talk of outlawing my D) Sick im not changing my scheme no matter how much you cry. all i can say is practice and improve your game because as the saying goes "there is always someone bigger, stronger, faster, samrter, etc than you" (in this case me in madden)

If it was really an engage eight then I personally have no complaints...

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Havent played Abome so I cant speak on it....

But a nano is basically a pass rush generated because the OL (wich is the computer) is tricked nearly everytime into letting a man rush right in because of something as petty as "he put his guy 2yards back from the LOS and 2 clicks to the left"

If someone is doing that, its quite "cheesy" although some people can counter these glitches...all in all it becomes more about what you KNOW HOW TO DO rather than gameskill.

If anyone is doing stuff like that then I guess more power to them, but fact is Madden has became SO competitive that these "Nanos" are used religously at big tournaments and high dollar games.

Yea that is a nano, but what i did was a overload blitz sick would keep 5 guys to block 7 that is the reason his qb was hit every time. at no point in our game did his oline look like a carousel and let my players threw without touching em. like i said before use the line shift, if you see pressure coming from the weak side then keep ur back and into block shift to that side (vice versa strong side with TE) Dont start yelling that's cheap! don't keep sending 5 receiver on pass patterns protect your franchise.

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

If it was really an engage eight then I personally have no complaints...

Bro we need to play and then u can be the judge of what he is complaining about

OK, I blitz a lot anybody that I've played will tell you the same but I run a very varied defense, that's not the point though by virtue of my giving up a about 35 points per game you can tell I"m not very good at it :lol:

Now let's talk offense people keep getting bent out of shape about flats and underneath stuff to TE's and RB's.

Where is the beef with this? If everyone else is covered why wouldn't I take the open option? I'm sure as **** not going to force it to a WR just so I can say that I didn't dump it off to the FB - that's just retarded.

I average about 20 completions per game, (about 6 1/2 are to C. Johnson) and the rest are pretty even through the RB's, FB, TE and other WR's

"aboome wrote:

Bro we need to play and then u can be the judge of what he is complaining about

See ya week 17 :yes:

"Crappy Tipper wrote:

OK, I blitz a lot anybody that I've played will tell you the same but I run a very varied defense, that's not the point though by virtue of my giving up a about 35 points per game you can tell I"m not very good at it :lol:

Now let's talk offense people keep getting bent out of shape about flats and underneath stuff to TE's and RB's.

Where is the beef with this? If everyone else is covered why wouldn't I take the open option? I'm sure as **** not going to force it to a WR just so I can say that I didn't dump it off to the FB - that's just retarded.

I average about 20 completions per game, (about 6 1/2 are to C. Johnson) and the rest are pretty even through the RB's, FB, TE and other WR's

Great point crappy:up: look at all the huge plays my D gives up its a high risk high reward type of D so its not Cheap what is cheap is when someone complains because they don't want to adjust and feels like they are entitled to get the win.:tongue2::loser:

So far everyone I've played has been pretty straight and I hope they think the same about me. Sorry Bo$$, MJD breaking 7 tackles like the Incredible Hulk isn't my fault, kid has a mind of his own. Of course the definition of "cheesey" I'm sure would vary between each person. Only thing I've seen to kinda raise my eyebrow was an out of franchise game where the RE was lined up right on top of the LE. In my opinion, kind of takes advantage of the CPU AI. Left side will block their side (nothing) and right tackle picks up one end, while the other is untouched. There are ways to combat that and it didn't count in the franchise so I didn't complain, but what you guys think?

ps. Guys are really stealing Garrett Wolfe's spotlight.

As long as we agree that this "NANO Blitz" or any other Cheat is not used, cool by me....simply put, anything in MADDEN that the Industry labels as a "CHEAT" should be avoided. Its not whether they can be beaten, the take advantage of glitches and the INDUSTRY frowns on them to the point of labeling CHEATS, so just avoid them.

All else is fair game and I agree "a STOP IT if you dont LIKE IT" type approach is fine...you dont like my touchdown dance...than stop letting me get in the endzone type response...just avoid any CHEATS as part of the reasons.

AGREED???

Nano blitzes are cbeap to those who can't stop them. Honestly I do vote they are banned, though it doesn't impact me because I can beat them

i dont think they should be banned all game. but to use it the majority of the time? thats ****ing tiresome.

"Alex44 wrote:

Nano blitzes are cbeap to those who can't stop them. Honestly I do vote they are banned, though it doesn't impact me because I can beat them

Again, its not a question of can they be beaten, its avoiding any tactic labeled as a game CHEAT.:up:

"Starry31 wrote:

So far everyone I've played has been pretty straight and I hope they think the same about me. Sorry Bo$$, MJD breaking 7 tackles like the Incredible Hulk isn't my fault, kid has a mind of his own. Of course the definition of "cheesey" I'm sure would vary between each person. Only thing I've seen to kinda raise my eyebrow was an out of franchise game where the RE was lined up right on top of the LE. In my opinion, kind of takes advantage of the CPU AI. Left side will block their side (nothing) and right tackle picks up one end, while the other is untouched. There are ways to combat that and it didn't count in the franchise so I didn't complain, but what you guys think?

ps. Guys are really stealing Garrett Wolfe's spotlight.

Was that mme? Imo that's not a cheat or glitch because simply shading the line blocks them both, and a shotgun run kills it. Though I don't even do that anymore so its moot.

"SICK wrote:

i dont think they should be banned all game. but to use it the majority of the time? thats ****ing tiresome.

do u really want to open pandoras box? well since tosses are greatly effective then we should limit that, pass to a good TE are hard to stop we should limit that, **** anything that results in me losing we should limit:up: im not saying dont outlaw cheats but i dont want people to say my high pressure d is a cheat because it can be beat like i said earlier its high risk high reward

An overload blitz with people in the right place is a nano...I'm not saying you cheat or that you're lying. I haven't played you or seen a highlight of plays in question.

"BigDogsHunt wrote:

As long as we agree that this "NANO Blitz" or any other Cheat is not used, cool by me....simply put, anything in MADDEN that the Industry labels as a "CHEAT" should be avoided. Its not whether they can be beaten, the take advantage of glitches and the INDUSTRY frowns on them to the point of labeling CHEATS, so just avoid them.

All else is fair game and I agree "a STOP IT if you dont LIKE IT" type approach is fine...you dont like my touchdown dance...than stop letting me get in the endzone type response...just avoid any CHEATS as part of the reasons.

AGREED???

I'm not clear on what constitutes a nano. If you find something effective in the game that LOOKS like normal football you should be able to use it until someone can stop it.

"Bpk wrote:

I'm not clear on what constitutes a nano. If you find something effective in the game that LOOKS like normal football you should be able to use it until someone can stop it.

not getting that logic. but here ya go

YouTube- Madden 10 Nano Blitz (Nickel 1-5-5) - Cover 2 Sink (MaddenBuffs.Com)

if its as basic as "football blitzing" then you shouldnt need a ****in instruction manual. if you watch that video, the ravens clearly have both runningbacks in to block from a shotgun formation, regardless its a sack. its an obvious flaw in the game that is taken advantage of by inferior defenders. like i said, doing it once or 4 times. sure. but being in that formation every play is tiresome, and obviously not just being good at defense, its taking advantage of a flaw.

if you watch this video

YouTube- Madden 10 Nano Blitz :: Nickel Odd Split - Monster 3

you see clearly before the video ends, the left guard looks right at the blitzing mlb, but chooses to go for the outside rusher (DT) which is unrealistic because lineman since little league are taught to block the inside guy, its an exploit of the **** AI of offensive lineman on this game, plain and simple. i didnt stop aboome defensivley (maybe i should have played a cheap D) but the fact is....it was used more than 90% of the time against me. He obviously very defensive about being called out on it....

but the fact is, google it, its everywhere. its a classic exploit used by guys online to boost their wins online (aka grow their E-Dicks) so let aboome use it, he obviously couldnt beat me playing basic defenses like everyone else does

all i know is, i have wayyyy more respect for raffie, the dude beat me fair and square 2 years in a row, the kid does it right, hope he gets back next season.

Good luck aboome, iam done talking about it, because instead of discussing it, you seem to quickly use words like "cry" "bitch" "complain" and smart ass comebacks. its a video game, you joined late and took the super bowl champ saints, and now think your hot **** cause you use a exploit to shut down (still got 30+ points) on the supposed best player in the league, so now iam crying cause i lost :lol:

i didnt do this **** after losing a very important game to raffie last year. there isnt a "cry after a loss" bone in my body, i could careless if i lose. if i lose fairly. i didnt. so iam bringing it up.

Wow. This whole thing is getting kinda intense.

Can't we all just get along.