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Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by alen1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Jt0323

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    Would not be surprised if Ryder failed the wellness policy. I mean with a broken back angle, he has to be off TV for some time...
     
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  2. TheAnswer385

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    The rumble is going to do something with the suspended cage that will be there from the earlier match. (too lazy to look up) Could be interesting
     
  3. Samphin

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    Idea has been around for years, actually. But it probably makes the most sense to use on Jericho this year if they are going to go that way. And Jericho winning doesn't mean he goes to WM to face the champ either, which is a nice way of getting him out of it if need be. I think I am actually liking the idea of Jericho being the one to give Taker his 20th win at Wrestlemania, even though it won't happen.

    My intuition tells me that Foley being involved at the Rumble is going to lead to him being involved with a younger Superstar at Wrestlemania. Foley is no dummy, he knows that a payday for a Wrestlemania that features Rock vs. Cena is worth cramming his way on to. It would not surprise me one bit to see Foley in some sort of garbage match with someone like Ziggler, Rhodes, etc.

    As for Ryder and this broken back stuff. It can go a few different ways, my initial thought was Wellness Policy violation too (we will know tomorrow, I suppose), but they may just have Ryder be out of the ring for awhile and be a non-wrestling entity. Clearly this is part of a larger storyline involving Cena and his path to the dark side. My guess is that this was not hot shotted, but in fact, a planned out angle. Either way, whenever Ryder comes back, I hope it allows him to drop the goofier parts of his gimmick, and he better be wearing rib tape for the foreseeable future. Always loved that about DDP's old gimmick. He had the ribs taped for months on end on account of them never being able to heal because he kept wrestling while injured. You don't see that attention to detail anymore.
     
  4. Ray Finkle

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    I'm pretty sure Foley vs. Ziggler is almost a lock for WM. Their promo against each other last week seemed to have set that in motion.

    I didn't even think of Ryder getting busted for a Wellness violation, I guess it would make sense but when again I still think it's the WWE trying to send a message to the smart fans that they're the ones that create the stars not us. And yes as stupid as that sounds that's the egos of the Powers That Be have. I'm kind of hoping Ryder returns at the Rumble and it turns out he leaked fake news of his broken back so Kane wouldn't be expecting it and he helps Cena beat Kane. Either way the consistent burial of Ryder since he won the US title has been awful. As has the whole Kane storyline since he returned.

    As much as I liked the winner of the Rumble getting a shot at The Undertaker, I'd rather Jericho have a match against Punk instead. I just think it would be a better match and the promos/angles the two guys could do would be pretty sweet.
     
  5. Big E

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    According to WWE the reason they took him off the air was " His segments weren't helping ratings any longer. "
     
  6. Ray Finkle

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    Seriously? Do you have a link/source to that quote? I'm not doubting you by any means so if it's true it just shows how out of touch the Powers That Be are out of touch with their own product and what the paying customers want to see.

    But that's ok stop pushing someone like Ryder (who sells a ton of merchandise), the fans really want to see more of Kane, Nash, Triple H and Michael Cole.
     
  7. Big E

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    I cant find the stupid article again...but I'm also seeing rumors going around that signs for Ryder were confiscated from fans at a London show recently.
     
  8. Alex44

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    But Jack ****ing IHAVETHEWORSTLISPINWWEHISTORY Swagger is going to help ratings? What a joke. A F'ing joke. Seriously considering NEVER watching wrestling again if what E said is true.
     
  9. Ray Finkle

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    I don't think the report Big E quoted is true.
     
  10. Jt0323

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    Well they backed off the "Zack broke his back to Zack Ryder's has Herniated Disc. Maybe they realize that WWE fans remembered that it took HBK 4 years to return from a broken back
     
  11. Big E

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    Ju callin me a liar ese?
     
  12. Alex44

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    It just really sucks. I stopped watching WWE for the last maybe seven years, decided to tune in again hoping things were better than when I left. It was right when CM Punk won his #1 contender match and was going to face Cena. I really almost didn't keep watching, but Punk showed me something I hadn't seen in wrestling since Austin and The Rock, so I kept watching. Even though he is ridiculous as a character, I respect Ryder as a wrestler and really enjoy his matches. Love his finishing move, its ridiculous as he is. He has such extreme athleticism for a guy his size, he is huge. Now I get to see two guys that keep me watching get repeatedly F'd over because they aren't licking managements butt crack.

    Hopefully what E read and reported to us isn't the truth, but either way it still sucks. I think Ryder should go to Smackdown. He could easily fill a void if they want t0 move Rhodes up a tier and even challenge a guy like Daniel Bryan for the title now.


    Side note - They should have let Ryder hit his Rough Ryder on Kane, and had Kane get immediately up. It would have made Ryder look better as well as Kane look like a beast.

    Side Side note - Going off of the idea of Punk beating Ziggler and Ziggler winning the rumble, I would actually like the reverse. Ziggler cheats and leaves Punk laid out in the ring. John L tells Punk he won't get a rematch (because he made him go to sleep on Raw) but since John L is always "Fair and unbiased" he tells Punk he will allow him to compete in the Royal Rumble match, and he will be competitor #1. Punk is still groggily getting up as the first contestant (Miz?) comes out. Somehow Punk makes it to the end along with whichever wrestler you want here. Miz, Truth, Barrett, Orton, whatever. Not sure how the match should end. Cleanly, Mic Foley helping Punk win? Whatever, its kind of a random idea off the top of my head.
     
  13. Big E

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    Another thing I was reading said they were worried he was getting over too fast and that they wanted to slow his momentum down so he didnt burn out quickly.
     
  14. Samphin

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    So, wait...are you guys really talking bad about the WWE and their treatment of their wrestlers when you currently have an Internet's Wet Dream scenario of Cm Punk AND Daniel Bryan as their world champs? And while personally I don't really find anything too appealing about Ryder, there is no denying that they have given him tons of tv time since he forced their hands. This angle is probably what allows them to drop the silly parts of his gimmick and give him some long standing legs, if you ask me.

    They did downgrade the injury from a broken back to herniated disks, which implies what I thought yesterday...this is a planned area forRyder to get his heat back. Now, the best bet, in my eyes, is for him to come back, somewhat subdued, and apparently after revenge on Kane for injuring him, only to have him turn on Cena for putting him in this spot to begin with. Hell, even go as far as to have Ryder interfere in the Rock-Cena match and possibly indirectly cost Cena the match.

    Cena gets himself a built in fued after Rocky, Ryder get to shed the stupid parts of his Jersey Shore gimmick (and can still use the internet to get himself over as a heel), and Rock gets to win in his hometown on the biggest stage of them all.

    I also don't get the dig at the WWE for shoving Nash, Undertaker and HHH down our throats when none of them have been around for various forms of time.

    If you take a step back and look at it, the WWE has done a remarkable job since HHH took over, in developing their undercard. Punk, Bryan, Henry, Miz, Ziggler, Ryder, Swagger, Sheamus, Barrett and others have seen their stock rise considerably in that period of time. It is hard for me to complain.
     
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  15. Ray Finkle

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    Nope not you. I just don't think there's anything to that report. It makes zero sense.
     
  16. Ray Finkle

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    Why would the WWE turn Ryder though? He's making the WWE tons of money in merchandise. It wouldn't make any sense. And yes his gimmick is silly but that's what's appealing to the fans now. Once that starts to die out that's when you turn him heel and have him drop the silliness not before. It would probably kill his character off much like what they did with turning Rikishi heel. People wanted to see a fat guy dance. People want to root for Ryder.

    And my digs were at Nash, HHH, Kane and Cole, never mentioned the Undertaker but you probably got Taker and Kane confused. My specific beef with Nash and HHH is because those two were forced down the fan's throats and helped derail CM Punk's push in the fall. Then WWE spent time on a Nash/HHH feud when no one cared about it. Now it seems as though HHH will be back on Monday and slowly get worked into another Taker WM match that I don't think anyone wants to see except HHH. Plus it's HHH, he's an insecure glory hog, he's just a match away from ruining Punk's push again. As for Kane, my feelings on his character are obvious but since he's been back his feud/angles have been the worst on RAW.

    And while it's nice to see the WWE pushing newer superstars they always seem to drop the ball when it matters.
     
  17. Alex44

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    Wade Barrett hasn't developed anything. He's been shoved down our throats. Daniel Bryan is whatever to me...he's alright. Never had any feelings either way. They didn't develop Punk at all, he developed despite them just like Ryder. Miz is god awful, Jack Swagger is absolutely god awful, and Sheamus is maybe even more boring to watch wrestle than Cena. No make that for sure.

    The ONLY guys you listed that they've really done a good job with are Henry and Ziggler. All of those other guys are absolutely terrible entertainers. Miz can be OKAY sometimes but in general I find him to be not a very good wrestler and just annoying on the mic. And I have no real feelings about Bryan.

    As for Ryder, I agree he could use to lose a bit of his ridiculousness. However the guy is just lovably ridiculous and plays his character well. That is ALL fans care about. Be an entertaining wrestler and play your character well regardless of what it is.

    Also while I agree that Nash/HHH was not a needed thing that anyone wanted, sadly they put on the second best match of that PPV.
     
  18. Samphin

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    So...the guy who is actually in charge of the day to day stuff of the WWE is an insecure glory hog? I think that stigma about HHH is leftover from a time that has long since passed. The guy has proven himself as an executive and his inclusion as part of the corporate structure is a direct correllation to an influx of actually TALENTED wrestlers being signed and developed within the WWE. Dan Bryan was signed on his watch, as was Sin Cara (who has been a bust in my opinion, but like you said...the guy moves merchandise). HHH is also responsible for the mini spike in tag team wrestling and is clearly repsonsible for a farm system that houses some of the best talent available what with the likes of Claudio Castignoli, Tyler Black and my personal favorite indy nobody of the moment, Jon Moxley (re-named Dean Ambrose...and if given the opportunity, he will change how promos are cut in the WWE).

    I'm sorry, I just can't fault HHH anymore for being a glory hog when he has had maybe, five matches all year long and been involved in two storylines since Wrestlemania from last year. He seems content with his career as a whole and promotes old school values that most of us say we are yearning for with regards to storytelling continuity and psychology.

    As for turning Ryder heel, why not? Merchandise isn't the end all, be all. I don't think they will turn Ryder heel, but his character as it is currently will not last long term. It just won't. He needs more depth than what he has. Like I said, I don't find him to be all that great of a character and don't really think he does anything special in the ring to warrant the spot he has. I don't even really find his internet shows too thrilling, but that is just my personal tastes. I respect the niche that he has carved out for himself and clearly, the WWE does too. Otherwise they wouldn't be giving him the high profile spot they have given him.

    Those are clearly just opinions of one person. And you are entitled to those opinions, but it begs the question of why watch, then? You are complaining about how bad the next generation of superstars is...yet continue to watch?

    Also, anyone who thinks that Ryder or Punk are doing anything that was already approved by the WWE beforehand, is fooling themselves. Ryder's internet shows, Punk's "shoots," and everything else all a part of the WWE. Yes, those guys have talent to pull off their roles, but make no mistake about it, they are as part of the machine as Cena, Orton, Taker and the rest. The WWE has just done a good job of marketing them as anti-establishment and people are buying it.

    I would also throw R-Truth into the mix of wrestlers who got character tweaks that have paid off in spades. He is by no means a young gun though, which is why I left him off. I suppose Henry isn't young either, but the point remains, that the WWE is better off at the top and middle of the card than they have been in a very long time. Whether one person likes Miz or not is irrelevant. The guy is a good wrestler, owns his character completely, and has made himself into a crossover celebrity.

    Same for Sheamus, especially in foreign markets, and despite what was stated above, is actually a very good wrestler from a technical aspect, and may have as surprising a succesful face run as anybody not named Randy Orton, in the past year. Punk was absolutely developed with the WWE, as was Ryder. Swagger is a good wrestler but hasn't quite turned the corner yet. He may end up going the way of Shelton Benjamin in time. As for Barrett, his character took off so quickly, that he had no choice but to start over, hit the reset button, and build himself up again. He needs some seasoning, but I think he is probably one or two small tweaks away from busting out, very similarly to Dolph's path. And this speaks nothing of Alberto Del Rio's successes.

    I don't know...I just see more positives than negatives with this roster right now . Kane's stuff is awful, sure. And I can do without the sorry attempt at women's wrestling that the WWE trots out every week, And yes, I wish I had more tag teams as well as tag team matches, but given the massive overhaul and turn around in some other areas, I am willing to give it time and see if those things get better down the road.

    We are in an interesting transitional phase right now where Undertaker, HHH, Kane, Mysterio, Show, and the other last remaining pieces from the last golden era are on their last legs. Replaced with capable, reliable and interesting wrestlers who seemed poise to slide in whenever they are called upon to do so. Sure, Cena and Orton will be the staples for a good long while, but there was a time in which we questioned their sustainability at the top of the card. Now it is a no brainer. And they have since been joined by Punk as the third mega star that they have developed. Give Ziggler about six more months of doing his thing, Dan Bryan some credible wins, Cody Rhodes a defining program/angle and continue forward with Sheamus, Barrett and Swagger (who I think would make for a great three man stable with Regal leading them, by the way), and you have yourself a fantastic look upper card.

    Call up Ambrose, Claudio and Tyler Black (Seth Rollins) after Wrestlemania and you have a solid rookie class to sprinkle into the mix and I am a happy camper.
     
  19. Ray Finkle

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    Yes Triple H is still an insecure glory hog. Why else would he beat CM Punk in the fall and then team up with him at the next PPV? None of that made sense and it derailed Punk's push. It didn't help the business by any means, plus him as the COO was just awful. I still don't get the booking of having him beat CM Punk. Because Triple H only wrestles 4 or 5 times a year he should be the one helping get talent OVER, not by beating the WWE's hottest star at the time.

    While he might be great in the front office in his current role, he still has his ego to feed and being good in the FO doesn't mean he still can't be insecure about his spot when he does wrestle.

    Obviously merchandise isn't the end all, be all but Ryder is I believe 3rd behind Cena and Punk in terms of selling (and obviously the WWE cares about that stuff which is why Cena hasn't turned heel and the main reason the WWE always gives is because he makes them too much money in merch and now the WWE is selling "Anti-Cena" shirts for the people that want him to be a heel). You turn him heel, you lose all of that revenue and the WWE has been putting out new Ryder merch almost weekly it seems. Plus you turn him heel you risk killing his character (ala Rikishi) even though if Ryder "turns" on Cena he probably wouldn't get booed anyway.
     
  20. DenverDolfan

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    While you are entitled to your opinion, I think saying that no one cares to see Nash and HHH is putting your thoughts on to a lot of people you don't know. I personally enjoyed seeing Nash and although he has never been a great worker, he has almost always been entertaining. Like others have said it was probably the second best match of the pay-per-view. I don't think you can say no one cares when he still gets a bigger pop than 3/4 of the current wrestlers and there are still NWO shirts at every arena. Now I'm not saying he should play a prominent every day role, but I definitely enjoy seeing the Nash's and Booker T's and Foley's from time to time.
     
  21. Ray Finkle

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    When I say people don't care about Wrestler X I don't actually mean everyone, I'm sure there are people out there, like yourself, that do care or want to see that wrestler so I'm talking about the majority of people, and the majority of people couldn't care less about Nash in 2011/2012. Which is a big reason why he's not around full time anymore. The ratings and buyrates for the shows Nash was on prove it, he did very little in terms of making money for the WWE in the short months he was around. In 2003 when Triple H and Nash had their original feud, no one cared, it showed in the ratings and buy rates then too and that was when both guys were still full time wrestlers.

    Sure Nash, Booker T and Foley get good pops, almost all former stars get them when they return. The nostalgia factor is HUGE with wrestling fans. But just because people pop for the returning stars initiality doesn't mean fans want to see them in big spots/storylines. If the Ultimate Warrior or Ric Flair showed up on RAW on Monday I'd mark out for sure, but that doesn't mean I want to see him back full time nor do I ever want to see him wrestle.

    Actually Ric Flair is the perfect example, the guy is a flat out legend and one of the greatest workers ever in the business however his star and drawing power is extremely limited. If he were to show up on RAW people would go nuts but if he kept showing up more and more the pops would slowly start to die down. That's why you don't see Stone Cold around each week (even though there are almost always Austin 3:16 t-shirts around), the fans would tire of him (and they did when he was the GM of RAW years ago). It happened with Hulk Hogan in 2002. He came back in Feb, the fans were nuts for him for 2 straight months, he had a great match with The Rock at WM, the WWE gave him the WWE title and he tanked as Champion and was gone by August. He came back a few months later, fans popped for another month, he had a match vs. Vince at WM, then the fans didn't care about him anymore and he was gone. Then the WWE smarted up and realized Hogan was only good in limited appearances for 1 match, if he stayed longer the fans would tire of him.

    For a one time appearance the old time "legends" get good pops and crowd reactions but those definitely die down with each consistent appearance.
     
  22. Ray Finkle

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    New WM match up rumors are:

    CM Punk vs. Triple H
    Chris Jericho vs. The Undertaker
    Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton or Sheamus

    Word is the WWE is concerned with doing another Triple H/Taker match at WM and a Jericho/Taker match would be something new.

    I'd rather see Punk/Jericho simply because I think that could be the match of the night and the promos leading up to the match would be great. And believe it or not I don't want to see either Triple H or Orton in the title hunt. WM is going to draw huge money because of Rock/Cena, why not give the rub to the young guys who are the future of the company?
     
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    I used to watch WWF/WWE back in the days of Bret Hart, Steve Austin etc, i recently started watching it again and i am surprised at how tame it seems now. The crowds seem dead? you guys are talking about this guy Ryder being one of the top guys, every time i have watched it recently, this guy comes out and the crowd seem silent! When Bret Hart came out or Steve Austin, the crowd would go nuts.

    I also don't get why they have so many 'champions' in the old days it was the WWF title and the Intercontinental Title, both were held by guys who were at least always memorable. Daniel Bryan every time i have seen him seems to be met with no reaction from the crowd, what title does he actually have?

    Perhaps i am just thinking too fondly of the 'good old days' but it doesn't seem even half as good now compared to say 1994-2004.
     
  24. Ray Finkle

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    Wrestling is completely different today than it was 10 to 15 years ago. And you're right it's not half as good as it was from like 1996 to 2002 which I consider the golden years to be a wrestling fan with the WWF Attitude Era, WCW Nitro Era and ECW.

    The star power is extremely limited too back when you watched you had mega stars like Austin, The Rock, Hogan and even the mid carders were bigger stars back then compared to some of the main eventers today. Nowadays the WWE only has 1 legit mega superstar in Cena.

    And the crowds are much different as the product is different. Most of the hardcore/die hard fans still watch but most of the fans either stopped watching or switched to UFC. The WWE is now much tamer as they're trying to bring in newer young fans to help build a new target fan base.
     
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    Is Cena turning into a sort of Bret Hart figure? i noticed he seems to get boos and cheers much like Bret Hart did before he turned heel. The irony is despite not being anywhere near as good, it seems as successful as it has ever been, perhaps that is down to a lack of competition, and like you said appealing to the kids more.
     
  26. muscle979

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    I agree about Triple H. At this point in his career he should be putting guys over. But he's not. What explanation is there for that? Does it enhance some storyline for him to beat CM Punk? No it certainly doesn't. You go back 12 or 13 years ago and look at a guy like Foley. He could still work full time and was a pretty big star in the business. Yet he put guys over all the time, including Triple H. No, he never had the look of a Triple H or whoever but I would say he had enough clout to ask for a few more Ws if he had wanted to. Now here we are in the twilight of Triple H's career and he can't seem to bring himself to be pinned for any of the new stars in the company.
     
  27. muscle979

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    I don't agree with that at all. I was at the TLC event and I can think of several guys who got much bigger pops than Nash. Zach Ryder for starters. My daughters LOVE that guy. They were not alone. The Nash/Triple H match was decent, I actually thought the Ryder/Ziggler match was one of the better ones of the night. I'd rate that ladder match behind the opening match and the main event.
     
  28. Alex44

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    To be fair I never said Sheamus was a bad wrestler. I said he was a BORING wrestler. Big difference.

    Ryder vs Ziggler was an entertaining match as well. It's right up there with Nash vs HHH for second best of the night for sure. Punk vs Miz vs Del Rio was match of the year....has to be. Though I'm still unsure why Ricardo Rodriguez tried to climb for the title lol
     
  29. Ray Finkle

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    Yup absolutely. Once Triple H turned into a full time main eventer, the only guys he ever put over where his friends (HBK, Batista, Sheamus) or guys that were established already (Undertaker, Cena, Orton). Meanwhile you have/had guys like Foley, HBK (once he came back in 2002), Cena, The Rock putting guys over left and right. Triple H is the modern day Hogan where if he does lose, it's set in stone he'll get the rematch win to get his heat back.

    The Punk thing still bugs me even months after it happened. It made zero sense, except to stroke Triple H's ego. The WWE is lucky that Punk loss didn't kill his heat totally, it only derailed it a bit. Triple H's shoulders should have been on the mat and he should have done his best to make Punk look like a million bucks in the process.
     
  30. Two Tacos

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    I'm an avid MMA fan and a casual wrestling fan. This Saturday is the second UFC event to be televised on Fox, the Co-main event and probably most interesting match is between Chael Sonnen and Michale Bisping. Chael was going to have CM punk walk him to the cage, but Vince apparently put the kibosh on it. I really don't understand why. Is MMA still looked at as competition?
     
  31. muscle979

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    Good question. That's interesting if true. I would think if anything it's free advertising for WWE. The two are not really the same thing.
     
  32. Ray Finkle

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    The WWE says no but that's where most of their older fans turned too. UFC took a huge chunk of their fan base and those fans haven't looked back.
     
  33. muscle979

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    So why not let one of your hottest commodities get some exposure in front of some former fans that you probably wouldn't mind getting back. I don't get it.
     
  34. Ray Finkle

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    Because Vince fears things he can't control.
     
  35. Two Tacos

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    This is all according to Chael who doesn't have the best record with the truth. He is famous for cutting WWE style promo's to hype his fights. It'll be interesting to see if he comes out to Cult of Personality.
     
  36. Ray Finkle

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    Just read the Rumble results, seemed kind of meh show. Really surprised guys like Cena, Ryder (hey WWE keep burying the guy), Kane, Clay weren't in the Rumble and instead we get Lawler, Cole, Rodriguez and a bunch of jobbers like Alex Riley. I don't have a real problem with Sheamus winning, at least it's someone new/different and not predictable or boring like Randy Orton. If I were to guess I bet Jericho was suppose to win it (he probably still should have) but the WWE switched it since he was an obvious choice and they love trying to be unpredictable.

    EDIT: The more I think about it, the more I think Jericho should have won it. Makes no sense why he didn't, especially since he hasn't gotten wrestled at all since his return nor said much. Seems like a classic McMahon changing his mind during the day of the show.
     
  37. Ray Finkle

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    By the way, can't wait for tomorrow's RAW when we get the return of "Monday NigHHHt RAW's Triple H SHHHow".
     
  38. Jt0323

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    Terrible rumble imo. I agree with having Riley and Cole and karma ect... where they could have had other superstars who deserve it. I did like Road Dogg though. Anyway, I don't get what they are going with Jericho now. He should have won. What was the point of his promos he cut, and saying the Royal Rumble was the end of the world as we know it or something around those lines...
     
  39. Jt0323

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    My top moments were
    Road Dogg
    Cobra vs. Mr. Socko
    Kofi handstand

    I also turned to my friend and said the King would be in this match because he didn't wear a suit or anything and looked ready for a fight.

    Also I was expecting Goldust to come out and Eliminate Cody. Thought that would have been cool to see

    Also I was surprise to see Big Show at 30 and not Y2j. I was expecting a surprise with #30 being Jericho was already out. Disappointed when it was Show
     
  40. Ray Finkle

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    Exactly. Makes zero sense. Again I really do think Jericho was originally booked to win the Rumble but they changed their minds because he was the obvious choice and no one would have been surprised. The WWE wants so badly to be unpredictable all the time but sometimes it's ok to do the obvious thing if it makes sense and there's a good storyline involved.
     

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