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Official WWE/TNA Wrestling Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by alen1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει


    The WWE has a...sort of formula for when they have an amazing match on their hands. Whether it was HBK-Undertaker, Austin-Rock, Hogan-Warrior or most other huge matches. It typically involves a certain..."sheen" to the match. False finishes, multiple kick outs of the other one's finish and a storyline element that is pounded into our heads by the announcers.

    This...didn't have that. It had a certain amount grit to it. It is rare for a great match to happen inside the WWE umbrella that doesn't follow their own basic formula, and this is one of those rare matches. I can't gush on it enough.
     
  2. Ray Finkle

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    The WWE style of working matches has gotten so old that part of the reason this match was so good was because it was so different.
     
  3. biggiesmalls3k1

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    I think part of it has to be that both Nakamura and Zayn really havent been versed in that WWE style. They still wrestle a very stiff "strong style" and in the Indies, we dont really see the formulaic style with a ton of false finishes that we see in a WWE ring on a normal basis. You see it with Cena, after a while you even saw it with Rollins and Bryan, they totally make every match exactly the same. They make you fight a certain way. At the NXT/Indy level these guys are afforded a certain level of freedom, and that newness is what sets it apart...

    Let us not forget that Generico/Zayn is on another lrvel and Nakamura just very well may be the #1 guy in terms of puro stiff style and just overall charisma...put that together and you got lightning in a bottle
     
  4. Vertical Limit

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    The setup in Jerry World for wrestlemania is just Wow.
     
  5. Vertical Limit

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    Ryder new IC champion, a very good ladder match in my opinion
     
  6. Vertical Limit

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    Wow WWE gave Jericho a win in WrestleMania. LOL That's a major shocker to me. Thought they were going to give Styles his wrestlemania moment. Gotta earn your stripes I guess.
     
  7. Vertical Limit

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    Stone Cold HBK and Mick salvaged a very meh tag match.
     
  8. Vertical Limit

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    That street fight was so crap..
     
  9. Vertical Limit

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    The diva championship match is better than the street fight.. Way to stink it up Brock and Ambrose
     
  10. biggiesmalls3k1

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    Who is booking this garbage?? My god, they have made every wrong finish...
     
  11. Vertical Limit

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    If the hell in a cell isnt the main event then we are about to witness a stinker here with shane vs undertaker. O boy
     
  12. Vertical Limit

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    So now its obvious the rock will be involved in the wwe heavyweight championship match to sell Reigns to the crowd..

    Nvm looks like hes involved in some lame segment
     
  13. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Triple H looks ten years younger today physically. But the crowd is already booing Reigns..
     
  14. Vertical Limit

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    That reigns tripke h match was smackdown worthy. A really bad match. Divas match was better
     
  15. Ray Finkle

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    Best part of the night was Ryder winning the IC title. I enjoyed everything up to the HiTC match. Everything after it was pretty long and boring. I mean I love The Rock but can do without his annual WM promo. Overall I thought it was a fine WM, obviously not the best or worst, but given the lack of hype it could have been a disaster.

    The biggest issue I have with WM is it is way too damn long.
     
  16. Vertical Limit

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    Stone Cold got a way bigger pop than the rock and he didnt get any time on the mic. Lol the rock just drags his segments too long and then comes things that dont make sense like fights against new day or the wyatts, just randomness.

    The street fight was just pure crap. And the title match well we knew it was going to be bad and wwe did their best to edit out the boo and roman suck chants but you can still hear it
     
  17. Vertical Limit

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    By the way, Shane kicking out of a chokeslam on the steelsteps made me roll my eyes. Since when was he super shane? Thats an easy pin without the steps any other day.
     
  18. Ray Finkle

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    The whole match was a train wreck and slooooooooow and boring as hell. None of it made any sense, much like the actual storyline for the match and they didn't even bother to bring out Vince to watch it. No run ins, nothing memorable except an extremely stupid bump that Shane took. Like I said before WM was fine until the HITC match, then it was a long boring disaster.
     
  19. Vertical Limit

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    I love Steve HBK and Mick and their wrestlemania moment was needed but at the same time I think its getting kind of pathetic to use your main roster as a punching bag for the legends just for a cheap crowd roar.

    So now you just burried the Wyatts (again), new day (again) and league of nations. all in just two segments you burried 10 wrestlers of your main roster.

    Im just glad John Cena was the one who came out to assist the Rock. Kept thinking Ronda Rousey is going to come out and help The Rock beat league of nations and maybe do her own elbow drop. That would have made it so lame.
     
  20. Ray Finkle

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    According to Meltzer, WM's actual attendance was between 93k and 94k, which is pretty damn impressive. It also drew 17.3 million at the gate.

    Meltzer is reporting that the original plans for the IC title ladder match was Kevin Owens winning but plans were changed at the last minute.

    Also Meltzer says that Karl Anderson and Doc Gallows will be on the main roster shortly. Enzo, Big Cass and Apollo Crews will be appearing on the main roster in the near future.
     
  21. Vertical Limit

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    Well they had ticket scanning issues at Jerry World, and thousands of people went home pissed off. WrestleMania began with thousands still outside trying to get in.
     
  22. Samphin

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    Ok Wrestlemania. They were stuck with that Roman Reigns victory, which you can tell by them having a game plan to drown out the boos. Here is hoping that Reigns turns heel officially to try and salvage this, but they probably won't.

    Ladder match was really good. Jericho/Styles was solid. Women's match (and new belt) were awesome, and I enjoy seeing HBK/Foley/Austin as a segment AFTER the match.
     
  23. Ray Finkle

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    The perfect time to turn Reigns heel was at the Survivor Series, now even if he turns heel I don't think it's going to matter. Fans just don't like and/or care about him and part of the reason is he has no character or personality. So even as a heel none of that changes.

    I don't blame Reigns, he's been booked terribly since The Shield split up. I'm just thankful Reigns finally got his "WM moment" so now Vince and Co. can finally get their Reigns' fix until he tanks as champion and they move on.
     
  24. Vertical Limit

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    Reigns needs more moves.. Seriously... He had that samoan drop, the spear and althe superman punch.. I didnt see him do anything else yesterday..

    Maybe work in a jackknife powerbomb, some aerial attack, a submission like the ankle lock, a ddt, i dont know but something. His moves dont excite anyone. Its just clothesline five times, throw you off the ropes, throw u against the barricade, superman punch, samoan drop, spear, done. Yawn
     
  25. Samphin

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    Could see a LOT of new names on RAW tonight. The R-A-W (Raw After Wrestlemania) is an event in of itself, these days. Perfect time to debut NXT call ups and/or debut a certain popular "club".
     
  26. Vertical Limit

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    If you think about it last night should have been Rollins vs Reigns and Reigns winning the title for the first time. He may have been better received that way. But since Rollins injury Reigns has been champion three times already in 5-6 months

    Hes on pace to become a 15 time champion in 20 months
     
  27. Silverphin

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    That, and it probably would have helped if Vince didn't try to turn Reigns into Cena 2.0.
     
  28. Vertical Limit

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    I just love the Wyatt family. Theyre definitely a throwback.
     
  29. Vertical Limit

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    Vince trying to get his best heel (Jericho) to sell Reigns and Reigns is still getting bood, and Jericho is over. LOL this is so backwards
     
  30. Vertical Limit

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    Ya, that went bad.
     
  31. Vertical Limit

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    Wow pathetic taking away the IC title from Ryder after such a great moment yesterday. Way to go creative team.
     
  32. Jt0323

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    the whole Ryder thing pisses me off. Why give him the title to even begin with?
     
  33. Vertical Limit

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    That is just pathetic. And obvious its going to build up where he wins it on the next ppv but really, there are a billion other ways to legitimize the intercontinental title and instead you go the really stupid route.


    If there is any title division that is in serious need of work is the US title. That title is so useless.
     
  34. Vertical Limit

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    So Aj Styles, a guy that is super over with the crowd is the number 1 contender.
     
  35. Ray Finkle

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    Pretty telling that "The Next Cena" got 1 segment in the middle of the show and wasn't seen from again. Clearly the WWE was worried about the fan backlash.

    Interesting that Styles is his first opponent. Its not going to help get Reigns any cheers, perhaps its the start of a slow heel turn.

    Overall besides the main event RAW was pretty forgettable, which is very surprising since the RAW after WM is usually the best one of the year. I also am starting to hate the super duper smarky fans and all of their chants. Its cute every once and awhile but most of it is annoying.
     
  36. Samphin

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    One of the more tame Post-Wrestlemania crowds. It might be fatigue from the weekend of wrestling though. Plus, for us watching at home, the WWE is actively messing with the sound to drown out the crowds these days.

    It is always fun to re-set the business year, so to speak and see who and what we have to look forward to. The Vaudevillains, Enzo & Cass, Barrett Corbin, a returning Cesaro, a re-packaged Primo/Epico, Apollo Crews (not sure if he is up full-time or was just showcasing for an eventual main roster call up later), and of course, Wade Barrett on his way out of the WWE.

    Most importantly, there is, at least, a temporary refreshing of the main event scene. Whether AJ, Jericho, Cesaro and Owens stay there, or kick back down for more traditional main eventers that are returning (Cena, Orton, etc.). That is a lot for one show, yet is didn't come off as overwhelming, which can happen. Probably smart to hold back on the Balor Club and Bayley.

    I didn't mind the Ryder title switch as they clearly gave Zack a Wrestlemania Moment for being such the company man he has always been. Ryder knew it was going to be short lived from the beginning. His interview after winning the strap at WM, even alluded to losing it quickly.
     
  37. Ray Finkle

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    I agree about Ryder, no one should complain. He got his WM moment and was always going to be on borrowed time. I just have a problem with The Miz getting the title but I'm assuming he's probably going to drop the belt fairly soon.

    I loved Cesaro's suit/glasses look he came out in. Hopefully he will find that personally Vince feels he lacks and is given a real chance.
     
  38. Vertical Limit

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    They already booked the ic title rematch on smackdown.. Bet he wins it again
     
  39. dolfan32323

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    I actually like the Miz having the title. He's one of my favorite wrestlers on the roster. He's a natural on the mic and makes a fun heel IMO.
     
  40. Vertical Limit

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    Ran into this video on youtube and couldn't help but laugh... This is Triple H at his best.... LOL

    [video=youtube;aiJzEkWVBD8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiJzEkWVBD8&ebc=ANyPxKpbE24ZpHaxg0SsiIJ7uBmYdlfc_7o3IKoU31Awd3 YExXYOFCHLBsxokerA0hHMhKcErmn4ihCb8eguHUOV-CGRHamjrw&nohtml5=False[/video]

    He really sold it well, especially that "bite" Goldust was known for at 2:00, that had me on the floor laughing.
     

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