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Official WWE/TNA Wrestling Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by alen1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    Why did Vince start up a body building federation in the early 90s? Why did Vince start up the XFL in early 2000s? Its Vince. He wants to be known as Mr. Entertainment. Of course it's silly and stupid but who doesn't want to see The Marine 6?
     
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  2. Vertical Limit

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    Lol some reason i found the champagne celebration with new day and atephanie too funny.. and the colors in that room couldnt be more... fruity..
     
  3. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    That was an awesome main event.. that ridiculous codebreaker KO and Jericho pulled off was awesome.
     
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  4. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    What didnt make sense to me was where was Roman Reigns the last five minutes of the match..
     
  5. SICK

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    And then he stood tall with both titles lol his booking is so senseless.

    He's supposed to be this big face....however he spent the last couple months tormenting newly weds, and last night he spears a guy that just lost his best friend.

    Roman is a big stinky jerk face.
     
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  6. Ray Finkle

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    The only part of RAW I caught in the last two weeks was last night's Rusev/Lana promo and Big Cass coming out. I think it was Bryon Saxon saying how he doesn't understand what Big Cass or Enzo's issue is with Rusev when Enzo was going after a married guy's wife. And the tattooed guy, I don't know why I'm drawing a blank on his name, was saying but Enzo got jumped or whatever. Stuff like that drives me crazy because Saxon has a terrific point and it makes no sense that Rusev, as a heel, is justified in his actions while Enzo, the face, is doing a heel move. Which goes to your point about Reigns and how he was basically the heel in his program with Rusev. The writing is just terrible and makes no sense.
     
  7. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Corey Graves, and yeah its ridiculous. Vince doesn't even think about **** like that, and people are too scared to bring it up. But it's all that Carnie stuff that is pointless that drives me crazy.
     
  8. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    That tag match last night was something you expect from a ppv. It was great
     
  9. Ray Finkle

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    Yes Corey Graves, thanks. I was way too lazy to look it up and I actually like him on commentary. I do think it's fair to say Vince, as he's gotten older, is really out of touch with the product and is way too hands on on things.
     
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  10. SICK

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    I honestly wonder, how much, and possibly how better the WWE and wrestling in general will be once VM is dead, and Steph/HHH takes over. Will they open it up creatively? Going to be interesting to see one day..
     
  11. Ray Finkle

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    I have zero faith in Stephanie just based off of what past employees say about her, basically that she doesn't add anything to the creative product. I have more faith in Triple H simply because he's getting experience doing NXT and he's a wrestling mind. But it's also different running NXT and running a public company.
     
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  12. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Well, HHH is pretty much in charge of creative, at this point, so you guys will get your wish, soon.
     
  13. Ray Finkle

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    But Vince still has the final say, which is the issue.

    What's your stance on the whole Vince, Stephanie, Triple H in charge of the WWE?
     
  14. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    So, the WWE is going to have a new championship - the United Kingdom Championship. Champion will be crowned in January.

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  15. Ray Finkle

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    UK Champion? Ummmm.... what? I don't get it. Are they planning on having a WWE brand in the UK or is this just another name for the old European Championship?

    If it's just another title for the WWE it seems silly. Sure the IC and US titles are meaningless once again and no one cares about the new Cruiserweight division and championship so let's add more titles!

    Either way tournaments are awesome so that should be fun.
     
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  16. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    It's a head scratcher, for sure. UK wrestling has been on a TEAR for a few years now. Lots of great talent, so I assume it is WWE attempting to capture that share of the market, but seems odd. I actually like that title better than most of their current belts, however.
     
  17. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    I am fine with them being in charge. I think HHH and Stephanie actually bring a lot to the table creatively, and are different enough on that spectrum, that they can filter each other out, with the poo ideas.

    At least, that is the hope. I suppose it could go the wrong way, all together.

    Vince has been dropping clues for quite awhile now, that he will be turning the reigns over to them before too long. His time is limited.
     
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  18. Samphin

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    For my next match, it also, stems from the Royal Rumble (shocking), and is a continuation of the AJ Styles/Samoa Joe feud. After watching his star NXT pupil abandon his brand, and ultimately, go to Smackdown, instead of his wife's show, HHH is pissed and has a few things on his mind that he needs to relay to Shane.

    So the week after Joe announces his intentions, as outlined above, HHH announces that he will be at RAW, the following week. HHH shows up in a suit, grabs the mic, and lays into Shane. Rips Shane for leaving the family business, only showing back up when he failed at his other ventures and capitalizing on the hard work of Steph, Vince and himself. He never liked Shane, but always maintained respect. That is, of course, until The Royal Rumble and the events that played out.

    HHH is sick of Shane disrupting family business, and if Shane wants to play the game (at this point, HHH is ripping of the tie, suit jacket and shirt, to reveal a (new!) T-shirt design of his likeness), then HHH is happy to oblige.

    The following night on SD, Shane takes ot the mic to respond to HHH. He scoffs at the notion that he is interfering with family business, since Shane is, in fact, family, whereas HHH is not. No matter how much HHH wishes he was a McMahon, the fact remains, that he never was, and never will be. So before HHH goes and makes Shane REALLY mad, he suggests, he stop his little temper tantrum and go back to doing, whatever it is his sister, has him doing.

    A week later, on NXT, Apollo Crews shows back up, tearing off his SD Live t-shirt, to reveal an NXT one. After his match is over (he wins) HHH joins the ring, shakes Apollo's hand, and welcomes him back home. He then looks into the camera and tells Shane, that this is just the beginning. He will continue to raid SD, until there is nothing left, and there is nothing Shane can do about it.

    The week after that, the same thing happens with Baron Corbin. He shows up on NXT, rips apart the SD shirt, and aligns himself with HHH who, once again, explains to Shane that this won't stop.

    The week after that, on Smackdown, Shane is confronted by Daniel Bryan who tells him he needs to do SOMETHING to stop this. Because if he doesn't, HHH will put them all out of business. Shane tells Daniel, that he will take care of it, tonight.

    Shane goes to the ring and recaps everything that has happened, and then challenges HHH to a match at Wrestlemania. But says that a match, by itself, isn't good enough. Much like how he wrestles, Shane takes chances in business, as well. So in addition to the match at Wrestlemania, Shane wants the stipulation that whoever wins, gets control of the other's brand. So is Shane wins, HHH relinquishes control of NXT to Shane, and vice versa for Shane and Smackdown.

    HHH tweets out that he will have his response on RAW, the following week. HHH comes out, in a t-shirt, leather jackets and jeans. Gone are the corporate suits, dress shoes and the management attitude. HHH accepts Shane's challenge, and come Wrestlemania, in Orlando, The Game will be played in both NXT, AND Smackdown Live!

    WRESTLEMANIA XXXIII

    RETIREMENT MATCH: John Cena vs. The Undertaker (loser retires immediately)

    NO DQ, NO COUNT-OUT MATCH: Brock Lesnar vs. Bill Goldberg

    WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: AJ Styles (c) vs. SAMOA JOE


    NXT VS. SMACKDOWN LIVE: WINNER GETS CONTROL OF THE OTHER'S BRAND: HHH vs. Shane McMahon
     
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  19. Vertical Limit

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    Maybe they do a gimmick/MMA style match for goldberg vs brock. Maybe put an octogon somewhere in the stadium for that match only
     
  20. Ray Finkle

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    I think a Triple H vs. Shane WM match makes the most sense on how to use both guys but unfortunately the WWE seems to want to do the Triple H vs. Rollins match that should have happened in November.
     
  21. SICK

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    Didn't watch Raw.....errr sorry....Roadblock last night. Im sure Ill get a literal repeat of everything tonight, so no worries.

    Happy for Cesaro/Shameus however. They wrote a cool ARC for those two guys that was impressive.
     
  22. Ray Finkle

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    I only saw the Reigns/ Owens match. Nothing special and you could tell the fans were just waiting until Jericho came out. The ending was creative, a good way for Owens to keep his title and Reigns not to get pinned. But yeah it was a typical RAW main event match.

    These RAW or Smackdown only PPVs have been pretty eh outside of a match or two. I think the WWE is shooting itself in the foot with the brand split. Sure it's giving more guys a shot but they could do that without the split and just not have every guy on the roster wrestle at both RAW and Smackdown. But hey USA is calling the shots now so it is what it is.
     
  23. SICK

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    Nevilles turn was awesome
     
  24. Vertical Limit

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    I enjoyed the payperview last night. Only match i didnt care for was Sami Zayn vs Stroman.. very lame throughout.

    I wonder what this means for the New day. They were completely dominated the entire match, wonder if theyll play it like they took cesaro/sheamus too lightly.

    It was obvious Jericho would interfere but the reigns/KO match was pretty good. Creative ending, and the bestfriendship is repaired.

    The ironman match was good but im also glad the rivalry ends there... theyve fought each other enough times.. time to get Bayley a chance. Maybe they can do a women's division royal rumble in next months PPV to face charlotte at wrestlemania
     
  25. Vertical Limit

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    Side note, i found it interesting michael cole used Hulk hogans name to compare resumes with charlotte. I dont know if his name has been used before since they removed everything about him from the company, maybe theyre trying to slowly enter him back in the archives.
     
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  26. Ray Finkle

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    The Cruiserweight Division badly needs Neville and even Arias. It's been a pretty big dud since the tournament took place.
     
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  27. Vertical Limit

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    Okay nevermind, i rather see more sasha vs charlotte.. bayley vs charlotte matches run in slow motion and the crowd is as dead as the cruiserweight division
     
  28. Samphin

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    Just move the women to RAW, the cruiserweights to SD, and call up a few people from NXT and the roster won't be as thin, anymore.

    Also, NJPW appears to be close to announcing something big. Even announced WWE by name, which is odd. It probably means they are working together, in some capacity, which would be interesting.
     
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  29. Ray Finkle

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    Agree about the women and cruiserweights.

    I wonder if NJPW and WWE are partnering up so people can view NJPW on the WWE Network or maybe a big joint PPV event or something like that.
     
  30. SICK

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    WWE vs NJPW would be cool

    Would love to see an open challenge from Cena or Ziggler and Cody Hall come out to put on a match. Would be fun to see if he gets a good reaction.
     
  31. SICK

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    Also Young Bucks Vs New Day please

    And Ricochet Vs Neville
     
  32. Samphin

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    It actually sounds like they are gearing up to fight the WWE global expansion.

    Interesting.
     
  33. Ray Finkle

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    Very interesting. Don't know if they would be able to get a strong foot hold in the US but any competition would be good for the fans.
     
  34. Vertical Limit

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    I guess with the new belts, cesaro and sheamus will be holding onto them for a good while.
     
  35. Silverphin

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    Speaking of belts, congrats to American Alpha!
     
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    Rumor of Kurt Angle coming back in April, however Metzler shot it down immediately 0% chance....

    Also, Finn "The Troll" Balor tweeted "30" today....of course Smarks are going crazy its a tease for the rumble...however this is the guy that teased a Monday debut for like 37 Mondays.
     
  37. Ray Finkle

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    Current betting odds for WM title matches are Reigns vs. Stroman for the Universal title and Undertaker vs. Cena for the WWE title. No thanks to Reigns/Stroman but I think Cena/Taker could be a good match that would be 10000 times better if the streak was still in play.
     
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  38. DenverDolfan

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    That sounds like Raw would be awful for a while.
     
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  39. Vertical Limit

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    I never noticed until last night how small Kevin Owens is compared to Reigns/Goldberg.
     
  40. Jt0323

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    Miz is just awesome right now
     
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