OK Now What About LG,Safety,CB,OL Depth,LB, And Quarterback!
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Phoenician Fanforum_veteranOPFirst of all: Let's be realistic, even if we have a little cap room left there isn't much left on the market as far as quality starters without character issues.
I think we need to start considering stop gap older veterans. Daniel Manning S and Charles Tillman CB at vet min. Mentors if nothing else. Maybe revisit the Evan Mathis deal.
My take on the draft: Try like crazy to trade down at least once and garner a pick or two.
Mock:
1st... after trading down twice.(two 3rds) Byron Jones CB/Safety.....Maybe you have a future shut down corner or maybe you have an all pro safety or maybe you just have a guy who can take dollar bills off the locker room ceiling with Cam Wake.
2nd.....Jake Fisher OT/LG Might not be the run blocker we want right away at LG but he would be lights out in protection for Tannehill and he could slide over to play LT if necessary; and that could be necessary right away if Albert isn't ready. I don't trust Fox to man the left side.
3rd....DT Marcus Hardison Not a starter but a legitimate disruptor in the interior pass rush. (10 sacks last year) Could explode next to Suh on passing downs.
3rd...CB/Safety Eric Rowe Missed only two tackles all last year.A four year starter. This kid is really smart and athletic and he just plain gets it done. Might be a day one starter. I saw four of his games last year, not flashy but big time play making could yet come from this kind of talent and athleticism.
4th.....Chris Conley WR.....There is nothing to dislike here besides limited body of work but there wasn't a whole lot he could do about that. Total freak athlete and award winning honor student with great character. Similar size and better combine numbers than Julio Jones.
5th.....Mitch Morse OG.....Competition for Billy Turner or depth.
5th......Bryan Bennett QB...http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/01/2015_senior_bowl_bryan_bennett_emerges_as_top_qb_p.html The next____. Aaron Rogers? I'd take Matt Moore at a much lower price right now. A reach?? Read the article. Chip Kelley recruited this kid and he has his eye on him.
6th......Junior Sylvestre OLB/SS/ST's...Elite instincts and a superior athlete. Coverage skills were untested in their scheme??? A poor man's Shaq Thompson??
7th......Bobby McCain CB/KR
Priority free agents....QB Conor Haliday ,OLB Kyle Emanuel,OG Myles Diffenbach,OT Jack Rummels,WR Jake Kumerow,Safety John Lowdermilk
These are my best guesses, who do guys have in mind??
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteranIf the Dolphins are trading, they are trading up.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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Piston Hondaforum_veteranWho cares? We don't need no stinking MLB, FS, CB, OL, WR, RB...
We got Suh!!!
jboogieforum_veteran"Piston Honda wrote:
Who cares? We don't need no stinking MLB, FS, CB, OL, WR, RB...
We got Suh!!!
Stop......just stop. Smh
Bpkluxury_boxLG,Safety,CB,OL Depth,LB, And Quarterback
LG - Sign a mediocre vet and draft a guard in the 4th to compete, along with a UDFA. Make sure you do NOT allow Philbin ANY input into who starts. That way Turner can start ahead of Dallas Thomas.
Safety - Delmas and take a late safety with the Vikes 5th rounder. Doesn't seem like this is a very talented draft at Safety in the upper rounds.
Offensive Line Depth - As usual, grab a 7th and a UDFA then pray.
LB - Priority, imo. Try to trade down a few spots and take Kendricks in Rd. 1 then pick up a 5th or 6th rounder who can compete on Special Teams like Trusnik. Also, Tripp may develop. We seem to have a decent LB's position coach.
Quarterback - Get a cheaper option than Moore. Not sure who's out there. I know CK loves Rakeem Cato.
muskrat21forum_veteran... we currently don't have a 4th round pick so......
Nappy Rootsforum_veteran"muskrat21 wrote:
... we currently don't have a 4th round pick so......
Why don't we?
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muskrat21forum_veteran"Nappy Roots wrote:
Why don't we?
didn't we trade one of this years picks for someone last year?
Brasfinforum_veteran"muskrat21 wrote:
didn't we trade one of this years picks for someone last year?
We traded a third for Kenny Stills, I think we still have a fourth.
SumlitNew Member"muskrat21 wrote:
didn't we trade one of this years picks for someone last year?
Maybe you're talking about the 7th rounder we traded for McKinney?
"Brasfin wrote:
We traded a third for Kenny Stills, I think we still have a fourth.
Yeah, according to ESPN (after the Stills trade) we do (only lacking a 3rd):
http://espn.go.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id/13800/re-setting-miami-dolphins-2015-draft-picks
EDIT: of course this is before the Wallace deal.
texanphinaticforum_veteranGuys, no team in the NFL has all stars at every position. What wins in this league is QB play, a solid defense and difference makers. Just surround them with average (if that in some cases) role players and see what happens.
"muskrat21 wrote:
... we currently don't have a 4th round pick so......
Yes we do, we do not have a 3rd though..or a 7th.
BuckeyeKingNew MemberI no longer think we are moving up in round 1, we just can't afford it. So the options at 14 are...
La'El Collins, DeVante Parker, Jaelen Strong, Trae Waynes. Those are the 4 I feel there is a strong possibility we select. Collins would be the best as he could handle LT if Albert has a set back/future or start at LG.
1) Trade Dion Jordan for OG Evan Mathis.
2) If WR Devante Parker is available at #14, then draft him, then a CB in the 2nd rd.
3) If CB Trae Waynes is available at #14, then draft him, then a catch radius WR in the 2nd rd.
Use the rest of the picks for depth.
muskrat21forum_veteran"texanphinatic wrote:
Guys, no team in the NFL has all stars at every position. What wins in this league is QB play, a solid defense and difference makers. Just surround them with average (if that in some cases) role players and see what happens.
someone has to catch...
our WR are a downgrade compared to last year and our TE are equal so...
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"BuckeyeKing wrote:
I no longer think we are moving up in round 1, we just can't afford it. So the options at 14 are...
La'El Collins, DeVante Parker, Jaelen Strong, Trae Waynes. Those are the 4 I feel there is a strong possibility we select. Collins would be the best as he could handle LT if Albert has a set back/future or start at LG.
That is not how Tannenbaum works.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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Clark Kentforum_veteran"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
That is not how Tannenbaum works.
How about Hickey... He's still the GM, right?
Jimmy Johnson, for all of his faults, was a master draft strategist. I miss the days of him wheeling and dealing picks and assets stockpile draft choices. I'm not a fan of putting all of your eggs in one basket and moving up to target specific players, unless they have great value. See Dion Jordan. There's really only a couple of player worth trading up for in round 1 that we might have a shot at (Danny Shelton and Amari Cooper), and the price will be steep. As in, no 2nd or 3rd day draft choices. In a draft that has pretty good value, I'd be pretty upset with the loss of a 2nd. Now, if he wants to move up in the second round, I'd be OK with it.
jboogieforum_veteran"Fin4Ever wrote:
Yes we do, we do not have a 3rd though..or a 7th.
We still have a 7th also. We had 2 thanks to Jonathon Martin.
mlb1399forum_veteran"normaldude wrote:
1) Trade Dion Jordan for OG Evan Mathis.
2) If WR Devante Parker is available at #14, then draft him, then a CB in the 2nd rd.
3) If CB Trae Waynes is available at #14, then draft him, then a catch radius WR in the 2nd rd.
Use the rest of the picks for depth.
Personally speaking, Id be upset if we made that trade. Im still holding out hope that he can develop. Plus what DE/LB can cover Gronk and Megatron? There is value in that skill set..
Fin Dforum_veteran"Piston Honda wrote:
Who cares? We don't need no stinking MLB, FS, CB, OL, WR, RB...
We got Suh!!!
Honestly we don't need an MLB.
Misi wasn't the PFF rated #1 MLB in the league or anything, but he wasn't horrible or played in anyway to be considered a need. Same with Taylor at the #2 CB.
Really the MAJOR holes we have are FS, OL depth, #2 WR.
As far those go, we may just resign Delmas and we may just move Landry to #2 (or hell Cameron) with the two TEs we have (assuming we sign Clay).
Point being, we are no longer in dire straits at any position other than some average OL depth.
Phoenician Fanforum_veteranForgot to include this guy. http://www.apu.edu/stories/terrell-watson/
Seriously doubt he goes undrafted. Dolphins might want to manufacture another late round pick somehow and make sure they acquire this kid. He has the right stuff.
Hellionsubscriber"mlb1399 wrote:
Personally speaking, Id be upset if we made that trade. Im still holding out hope that he can develop. Plus what DE/LB can cover Gronk and Megatron? There is value in that skill set..
Not to mention Mathis is 33 years old, what other compensation are we receiving in this trade?
xphinfanxforum_veteran"mlb1399 wrote:
Personally speaking, Id be upset if we made that trade. Im still holding out hope that he can develop. Plus what DE/LB can cover Gronk and Megatron? There is value in that skill set..
This year is time for Dion Jordan to step up and show why he was picked in the first round. The more aggressive Dline might be just what he needs to get in position to make some big plays.
That's why they play the games!:yes:
Clark Kentforum_veteran"Fin D wrote:
Honestly we don't need an MLB.
Misi wasn't the PFF rated #1 MLB in the league or anything, but he wasn't horrible or played in anyway to be considered a need. Same with Taylor at the #2 CB.
Really the MAJOR holes we have are FS, OL depth, #2 WR.
As far those go, we may just resign Delmas and we may just move Landry to #2 (or hell Cameron) with the two TEs we have (assuming we sign Clay).
Point being, we are no longer in dire straits at any position other than some average OL depth.
I don't agree with your assessment of MLB... Koa Misi has never finished a full season. And as an added bonus, getting a true starting MLB gives us depth were sorely lack, as Misi can play outside too. Given all of the injuries that took place at the LB spot last year, I think adding a MLB is critical.
And #2 WR? Who's our #1 WR?
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