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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fin-O, Dec 7, 2015.

  1. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Ehhhh??
     
  2. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    except there isnt a QB worth drafting:winkiss::winkiss:
     
  3. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Pretty bare now
     
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  4. The Finest

    The Finest Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Tannehill's your starting qb for the simple fact you're more than likely not going to find anyone better unless you get a top 5 pick in the draft. Focus in the offseason should be fixing the OL and the LBs and then bringing in some comp for RT.
     
  5. sports24/7

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    Yes, he should be, but an unproductive offense doesn't necessarily mean you need a new quarterback.
     
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  6. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I just dont simply understand all this talk about Tannehill no being a decent QB.

    It's like playing a game a chess and never have played it before. Ryan needs an offensive line, a scheme to bring out what he does best and some coaches who know how to game plan and get it done.

    Tannehill has none of these
     
  7. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    It is really sad if there is no one out there better then him, we are doomed for sure.
     
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  8. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    What exactly does he do best? seriously, not trying to be rude, I just don't really see anything he is good at.
     
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  9. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I think Tannehill is in a bad spot. Zac Taylor? QB coach - wtf. That in itself was grounds to fire Philbin. You bring in a "project" and put him with Zac Taylor who has now been promoted to offensive Coordinator ----really??? Tannehill is an excellent athlete and can make 90 % of the throws. Last year against San Diego Tannehill showed what he is capable of. This was no fluke. Philbin was absent I believe because of his son's funeral and he lit it up. We won I believe 37 -0. I was amazed how he played -- 24 of 34 288 yrd 3 td's

    In the right situation with a QB coach who actually was qualified - Tannehill has the ability to be a top 10 QB. Unfortunately for him, he is not in that position and by default when the offense sputters most of us look at the QB. There is so much more going on here, including the line, receivers who are do for huge pay raises and most of all scheme and coaching. The coaches are the directors and they are terrible - by no fault of Tannehill's.
     
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  10. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    I have to disagree about Taylor, because you could make a very strong case that no QB in the league has improved as much as Tanne, just because he hadn't held the position before doesn't mean he isn't good at it, so far his results are pretty impressive.

    Also, that Chargers game last year was a fluke.
     
  11. jdang307

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    I'm not saying we should dump Tannehill, or even invest in a QB early. But you need to make your evaluations and stick to it. How many of the top QBs were even drafted in the top 10. Peyton was #1 overall. But Brady, Brees, Big Ben, Romo, Rodgers, etc. etc. alll out of the top 10. Newton was 1, and I'm not won over by his passing just yet. Russell Wilson. Last year you had Bortles go high, but Carr is sitting there in the 2nd. Tyrod Taylor? Ck and DJ were clamoring all year for him and to bring him in to compete with Tanny this past offseason.

    If you have a great grade on the QB, whether it be 1st or 2nd or 5th, and you're not looking for a QB but he falls, you almost have to take him. If you got a #1 overall grade on Aaron Rodgers but somehow Alex Smith goes first and he's there at 15 or whatever, why wouldn't you take him? All of those teams that didn't are kicking themselves and Packers got a steal.

    I don't like saying, "lets get a QB after round 4" you gotta make your evaluations grade them and see how it all plays out. But I'm all for hoarding QBs that's what we need to do.
     
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  12. Serpico Jones

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    I would hire Mike Shanahan. He would be a perfect coach for Tannehill.
     
  13. dolphin25

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    What did he do for RGIII ?
     
  14. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Found him a "gimmick" offense and got him killed.
     
  15. Serpico Jones

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    RG3 can't play. It's not his fault the owner forced him on Shanahan.
     
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  16. The Finest

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    I'm all for bringing in competition for tannehill, but they're likely not going to be in position to get a guy like Lynch or Goff, which is why they should focus on fixing the many glaring needs on this team. RT is a starter in this league and while he isn't going to carry this team to the playoffs, he isn't going to be the reason why they don't make it.
     
  17. Fin-O

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    You don't base drafting a QB out of desperation, thats how you fail. IDC if its in the 1st-3rd-5th...if you see a QB you like? You take him.
     
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  19. Shane Falco

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    You also think Omar knows anything. So there's that.


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  20. Shane Falco

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    And the perfect game this year vs Houston? Let me guess? Another fluke?


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  21. jdang307

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    Yes fluke. 90% if his yards were YAC. I think 10 out of 19 passes were at or behind the LOS. His average pass traveled 3.4 yards from the LOS, and his average completion was 3.1 yards from the LOS.

    None of this is bad for the team, mind you. But individually, Tannehill's performance wasn't all that impressive.

    You know who else had a perfect rating? Alex Smith. In his case it was dump offs to Jamaal Charles. Their stat lines are really similar

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/20131...gameinfo|contentId:0ap2000000299029&tab=recap

    17 of 20, 287 yards, 5 TDs.
    18 of 19, 282 yards, 4 TDs.
     
  22. Finster

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    Perfect games are always flukes, it shows how bias you are towards Tanne that you would think even for a moment that any and all perfect games are not flukes.

    A Rodgers having a perfect game is a fluke, seeing as how he's never had one, and in his 1st 3 years and 12 games starting he had 35 100+ rated games, compared to Tanne's 13 in the same time span, so I would say it's way beyond safe to say that it was a fluke.
     
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  23. dolphin25

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    neither can tannehill.
     
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  25. MikeHoncho

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    Uh, you got any Honey Nut Cheerios?


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  26. KeyFin

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    Any unbiased person would reach that conclusion based on our season's record and the 89 yards in total passing last week. But maybe you missed Omar's point- he said that we need to start considering Moore and other quarterbacks as the possible starter. Every football team at every level does that on a weekly basis; they evaluate their starters and make adjustments as necessary.

    Miller torched Baltimore's 10th ranked rushing defense for 114 yards (on 13 carries), while Tannehill could only generate 89 (on 14 throws) against the league's 19th ranked pass defense. But in the end, 7 points just doesn't cut it and it's hard to fault Miller with that type of production.
     
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