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  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    As far as mcd goes, while there are some issues with his situational playcalling that are obvious at this point. I think you have to look at him like a young player with talent who you believe will project to a higher level, you've got to stick with him and let them learn from the lows, the experiences, to reach the highs.

    im not 100 percent confident that his method of coaching will work and I wish he didn't cuss as much as he does when he communicates, but there is too much raw talent to not allow his process to unfold.
     
  2. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    His cussing seems so forced to me. Just does not seem to fit what he shows in his interviews. He is young and I believe his style will work for sure. I would love to play for a guy like that. He does have a lot to learn and it is troubling to see some of the same things repeated, but he is a smart guy and will get those worked out.
     
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  3. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    yeah Im good with allowing him to manifest his style as well..
     
  4. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    He and the QB are the youngest and most successful marriage weve had here at the 2 most important positions in the organization in decades. People need to learn to love it and get the heck outta the way.
     
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  5. Striking

    Striking Junior Member

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    I find it absolutely hilarious that there are some pundits pushing a narrative that he is on the hot seat.
    Second year coach, two playoff appearances. Lost Tua last year, almost won the game anyway with a rookie. And this year with a decimated defense and an OL that just can't stay healthy along with injuries to the skill guys. And they still have a good chance to win vs KC.

    Mike should be given an extension this off-season
     
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  6. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    That is fair. Look at Jets and Pats both of them had OL injury issues and were completely terrible.
     
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  7. Crash Jensen

    Crash Jensen Active Member

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    If the team indeed "takes on the personality of its coach" as they say, I think there is a question whether McDaniel has the capacity to instill a personality into a team that's consistent with winning in the game of football. McDaniel's personality is not going to change, and being a goofball isn't consistent with winning in the game of football. He may have been promoted to his level of incompetence.
     
  8. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Such crap. Theres not one way. Reid isnt a disciplinarian. Carroll. McVeigh. LaFleur. Campbell. Those are all PLAYERS COACHES. Being a hard *** isnt the only way.

    and “promoted to incompetence?” 2 winning, playoff seasons? How quickly we forget what Dolphins incompetence looks like.
     
  9. Crash Jensen

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    None of the coaches noted above is a goofball.
     
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  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don’t think you should phrase it like that, I mean I get your convicted that his theories and style will work but they are not fully proven
     
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  11. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Since he's a "goofball" in press conferences he's a goofball when he coaches?

    Everyone that he's interacted with, players, media personnel other coaches say he's a leader and inspiring. I guess you're used to leaders who yell and scream and are all discipline ( like BB). It's a bit old school. Since you haven't seen a leader like this you might take that as weakness. None of the best leaders I've ever known were the screaming authoritarian type of person. He led them to wins in 9 games last year and 11 games this year. He has the respect of the players. It would seem that he's moving in the right direction and not the other way around. You people are total comedy.
     
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  12. Finatik

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    They have worked so far. We won 11 games and counting. While not fully proven since theres a small sample size of 2 (BTW 2 of 2 winning seasons and playoffs) it would seem YOU would need to prove why THEY won't work.
     
  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Hmm, it’s a good question, I’m not there yet to do either way, but I do want to have patience with him

    Like I said it’s like evaluating a college player projected to the nfl
     
  14. Striking

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    Going off memory...What is his record vs the AFC East? 4-0 vs Pats? 3-1 vs Jets? 1-4 vs Bills with 3 competitive losses. Solid record all things considered.
     
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  15. resnor

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    Uhhhh... Didn't we lose the first to the Bills 48-20??

    You call that competitive? And the second one, the score made it look competitive, but it really was one sided in the second half.
     
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  16. Finatik

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    One sided? They scored one TD on Offense. It's like you don't even watch the games.
     
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  17. Crash Jensen

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    There is a difference between being an authoritarian and being simply serious. A goofball isn't serious. There are many times in games when a team has to bear down and get serious in response to adversity. If the team's personality is that of a goofball, it may find it harder to do that than if its personality was simply more serious. And although that may not explain this team's pattern of performance this season, it's certainly consistent with it.
     
  18. Finatik

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    So you don't think they are serious?
     
  19. Crash Jensen

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    I believe their pattern of performance is indicative of finding it difficult to rise to the occasion in response to adversity, and that may be because their personality as a team is too far in the direction of being goofballs and not far enough in the direction of being serious.
     
  20. Striking

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    Yep, one game out of five. Being competitive is important as you're building a team to challenge the AFC leader.
     
  21. Dorfdad

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    Dont have a problem with him as a coach. he seems to have players who love him which means they will by in. The problem is he's still young and hopefully get better. However Im worried that things could turn south on his style and carefree attitude could lead to players second guessing him over time.
     
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  22. The_Dark_Knight

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    What an offensive post! McDaniel may not have the appearance of a hardened veteran football player turned coach…he may have the appearance of an intellectual who loves the game of football but never had the gifts nor talents to play professionally and he’s labeled a “goofball”?

    If your assertion is he can’t be or isn’t a good leader simply because of his small stature or intellectual appearance, then this is one of the most belittling offensive posts I’ve ever read.
     
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  23. Crash Jensen

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    Neither does Bill Belichick have the appearance of a hardened veteran football player turned coach and he is also highly intellectual, but he is not a goofball.
     
  24. Crash Jensen

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    The players’ loving him doesn’t necessarily mean they will buy in in a way that’s consistent with winning. They could just as easily buy in in a way in which the inmates run the asylum and the culture of the team is far too playful and circus-like to involve the seriousness necessary to win at the level of the elite teams in the league that are highly serious and driven to win.
     
  25. Striking

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    They made the playoffs in his two years as a head coach. A half way from winning the division. Kinda undermines the argument
     
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  26. Crash Jensen

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    The team collapsed at the end of both seasons, when teams make a late-season push to make the playoffs and get the highest seeds possible. The team also collapsed in the second halves of the last four games this season. They’ve exhibited a pattern of being thoroughly manhandled when opposing teams are presumably playing their best and highly driven to win.
     
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  27. Dorfdad

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    I’m just saying I’m still in on him as coach. He’s very young and learning on the fly. He’s better than most we have had and I’m willing to continue the experience. I do have some offseason thoughts I will be posting but we’re in playofff mode and don’t want to distract from that.
     
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  28. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think your bringing excellent points to think about..

    Perhaps a little more sample size is needed cause this is some deep **** you’re talking about
     
  29. mlb1399

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    I think its way too early to want to get rid of a HC who’s got 20 wins in his first 2 seasons as a HC. Seems like anything, he would have to get better with experience and learning from mistakes. If his teams continue to collapse at the end of the season over the next couple years, then we have something to talk about.

    Next year will be tough managing salary cap hell, so we’ll see how well he coaches these players and if they make more strides on both sides of the ball in year 1 and 2 of the respective sides of the ball. I’d like to see us add a legitimate TE to add another layer of this offense. That or we have to find a 3rd WR who can step up when Waddle and/or Hill are out.
     
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  30. Finatik

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    Their pattern of performance is just a factor of McD being silly. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve seen on this board and I’ve seen some really dumb things here.
     
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  31. Crash Jensen

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    if a team takes on the personality of its coach and the coach is a goofball, the team may very well find it difficult to match the seriousness of opposing teams that are highly driven to win.
     
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  32. TheHighExhaulted

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    McDaniel doesn't want to win, he's just lining up his second career as a standup comedian.

    Get a clue, guys.
     
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  33. resnor

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    We didn't score in the second half. Theygot 14 points. Keep insulting me, it doesn't change the fact that the second half was one sided.

    The fact that you want to argue with me over that statement says a ton.
     
  34. Striking

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    There were certain mitigating factors involved in how both seasons ended. A win on Saturday puts to rest some of that, agreed? And as far as being manhandled, my assessment of their play differs from yours so I simply disagree with the statement
     
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  35. The_Dark_Knight

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    Belichick does have a hardened physical appearance. I can’t believe this has turned in to a childish name calling, bullying over physical appearance discussion.

    I’m dumber for even clicking on this thread.
     
  36. Crash Jensen

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    The Dolphins' EPA per play in the second half against Buffalo was an extremely woeful -0.49, whereas Buffalo's was 0.004. On a season-long basis this year that would place Buffalo 13th in the league in EPA per play and the Dolphins far and away dead last. Likewise the Dolphins have performed terribly offensively in the second halves of the last four games, despite performing very well offensively in the first halves of those games.
     
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  37. Crash Jensen

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    That's called being serious. What McDaniel is not.
     
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  38. TheHighExhaulted

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    Crash is obviously in the 55+ age range and still thinks it's 1977 in the NFL.
     
  39. Fishhead

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    Just because he has fun with the media makes him a goofball?
     
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  40. dolphin25

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    Winning is winning and McDaniel is winning the game of life. He leads well.
     
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