He'd be a great get for the Phins.

Put it this way: I'd rather we made Asomugha the highest-paid non-QB in the league than do what I think Ireland will do, which is go into draft day with CB as his top positional priority, and take a CB at 15.

Asomugha would instantly make us a far more aggressive Defense and improve us by a year or more in terms of a build plan.

 

Well if Patrick Peterson ever somehow fell....

 

Why do you think Ireland's biggest priority is CB? Corner is one of the deepest and youngest positions on the team.

 

Can he throw? Does he keep his eyes downfield when forced out of the pocket? How is his footwork?

 

We've already masturbated enough with our defensive hand. Now you wanna make that hand bionic?...Switch it up already.

 

This makes about as much sense as spending loads of resources on another wide receiver. You've already got arguably too many cornerbacks on the roster as it stands, two second year players who look like they might be elite corners, and a rookie who didn't look out of place in a decent amount of action, along with Sapp who did solidly and has a specific skillset as a slot corner, and Will Allen who might be a kind of excellent addition for the money.

Not to mention that the player in question didn't really even play up to his billing last year.

 

We need a REAL NFL QB or it doesn't matter what we do on offense or defense.

 

Now you are thinking properly TP, non of that wussy "offense" stuff, but maybe we can get Justin Bannon to play ILB for us?

:wink2:

A guy who could be interesting is Brodney Poole.

 

I'm just starting to like you again, really lol

And I mean this in the least possible insulting way, but....

WHAT??????

 

You mad?

:chuckle:

Just funning about their love for large players.

BTW, you kind of have "the future is now" a bit wrong, that would not involve drafting a Qb, it would involve signing someone like Kerry Collins, as "the future is now".

 

How is it deep? Who is behind Smith and Davis? Will Allen?

And how is it good...I mean consistently good? Smith got benched last season and Davis has one good game and two bad ones. And NEITHER of them is any threat to turn a game around with big plays.

In Asomugha you'd get a legit worry for opposing OCs, a guy who would force gameplans to change; no one in the Secondary right now represents anything even close to that.

Besides: it wouldn't cost us a damn thing except money!

And why do I think Ireland is focused on CB? Because if you follow the Phins' drafts over the last three seasons at all there's one pattern you see above all others: picks that do not address the greatest areas of concern at the time.

We needed a pass-catching TE last draft; despite several dropping right into our lpas at various points, none were taken. NONE.

We needed a stud power back to address the concern that Ronnie couldn't make it through a whole season uninjured—not to mention that he wouldn't even be under contract after the season; LaGarrette Blount was the stud back we needed, yet round after round late, we kept passing on him and taking...who? Can you even NAME our picks in the 6th and 7th rounds? I can't. But Blount gained 1000 yards in his rookie season for Tampa Bay as an undrafted free agent.

I don't have to list them for you; if you have eyes you can see the trend, and if not you're simply blind or willfully ignorant; this team does not draft well to fill needs. Except last draft with Linebackers, and then they drafted 55 of them just to get one right.

Here's the one thing of which I am confident going into draft day 2011: Ireland's pick in the 1st will confound EVERYONE'S expectations.

We're all talking about Ingram, and how if not Ingram it should be Julio Jones, and if not...

But it doesn't matter, because I know in my considerable gut that the last thing Ireland intends is to draft Ingram or Julio Jones, or ANY RB or WR in the 1st. He will draft what we least expect.

But hey...maybe it won't be a Corner.

Another DE maybe. :rolleyes:

 

We HAD a REAL NFL QB for 16 years with NO RUNNING GAME and NO DEFENSE!!!
WHAT GOOD DID THAT DO US??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

I'm all for upgrading the CB spot. If we cant get Namdi then John Joseph and Cromartie would be next on the list. There were at least 5 games (at Buff, vs NY, vs Cle, vs Buff, at NYJ) where dropped INTs could've changed the outcome of the game. Despite having no run game, a banged up OL, no speed or play making ability on offense, and outmatched OC and an HC w/ a FG fetish, the season would've been very different if:

A. Kendall Langford or Jason Allen make the INT vs NY on Sunday night.
B. Carrol makes the INT for the TD vs Cle
C. Dansby or Smith make easy INTs vs Buffalo

5 more plays, 3 more wins. And FYI, 10-6 w/ a sweep of the Jets would've put us in the tournament and the masses wouldn't have to spend the whole off season bashing the QB.

 

IMO we're not deep at CB at all. Vontae and SS are the only guys on the roster w/ legit starting capability, and neither of guys made (m)any plays last year. Neither can be trusted one on one vs opposing teams #1 WRs. Devin McCourty had 6 INTs as a rookie, that's more than VS & SS have in two years, combined. And if one of them were to get hurt we'd be deep all right, knee deep in sh^t.

 

Are Will Allen and Nolan Carroll just gutter trash now?

 

Add a top CB and I can definitely see the parallels to the Packers D on our own. Work on the offense and we may have something.

 

Nolan Carrol is not a starting caliber CB. Allen hasn't played a snap in 2 years and he just took a huge pay cut to avoid being released. If we had to start either of those guys on opening day we'd be in serious trouble.

 

Nolan filled in repeatedly as a nickel and did a pretty good job. That's fairly promising as a rookie he'll continue to be able to do so, especially since he'll probably end up being the 4th or 5th CB on the roster.

 

OK...so you are speculating. Gotcha. Because you have no way of knowing if what you said is true. You would be better served to start using "IMO" when posting your opinion, rather than stating it as fact.

IMO, If Will Allen is healthy he is more than capable of starting for either Vontae Davis or Sean Smith. And Nolan Carrol looked pretty damn good playing quite a bit for a rookie. There is no reason to think at this point that he could not possibly win a starting CB spot some time in the future.

 

The implication is that Ryan Mallett would lead us to the superbowl this year (many predict it will take several years to contend, let alone reach and win a superbowl).

It's obviously a joke, but I want Mallett and I believe he is a franchise quarterback.

 

"Ryan Mallett or Julio Jones or Bust" :lol:

 

If you think something is that stupid, it's because you misunderstand. He's saying that having Marino and no supporting cast makes no sense. There are no franchise QB's available to the Dolphins. There are NONE available to the Dolphins. So you can all caps needing an NFL QB as much as you want. How do you propose we do that? We have ways to bring up the team other than QB though, so since we can do those, we might as well. Bring in a solid running game and elite Defense and then IF (it's not a guarantee) you can get a franchise QB, you'll be set.

 

Really? I think we are loaded at Cb GMJ, as in we have 4 guys who can start for most teams, especially if WA shows he is healthy.

I watched Nolan Carrol last yr and thought he was a solid man press corner, so much so that made Al Harris expendable, that is good progress in a Rook 5th rd pick.

 

We've got no idea if this is actually the case or not, and acting as if there isn't is just as big a recipe for failure as acting if every prospect you've heard of before is going to be.

 

Well, Mallet is maybe my #5 guy at #15, for me I want to run the ball, and to be able to run it against anyone as I believe that would solve a host of problems the offense had in 2010, if that means adding Mark Ingram, I'm fine with it, if that means Daboll thinks Hilliard can do what Hillis did in Cleveland, even better, if Sheets can come in on spot duty for both, wonderful.

Just get it fixed or we are going nowhere.

 

OK...

A) Marino had a good O-Line, Good WRs, poor RBs on offense, poor defense. We have, a top five or so defense, good WRs, good pass protection O-line, decent RBs, crappy QB. We went SEVENTEEN YEARS without a losing season (only one with Dan Marino)!!! How can you even compare those?

B) Ryan Mallett is the QB we should be targeting at #15.

C) I can not help it if Don Shula was senile and could not put together a defense and a good running game for Dan Marino in the decade and a half he had the chance to. He was too loyal to his crappy coordinators if you want to know my opinion. He should have made changes to the coaching staff but did not.

 

Having gotten good play for a bargain is not a reason for spend additional money.

Devin McCourtney gave up more receiving yards than Vontae Davis, and would have proportionately to Sean Smith's snap count. He's not leaps and bounds better, he essentially came down with interceptions that Smith dropped, and that's the difference. He still had the same inconsistencies as both Smith and Davis did, and had games where he was outright abused.

There are better things to spend resources on then ****ing up our young corners snap count for the 30th player in a row someone has fallen in love with because they're a part of the passing game and have a name they've heard cast in a positive light on television.

Based on....?

If it comes down to Nnamdi or nothing, maybe you've got a point. That's not a realistic scenario, however?

 

Fine balance though between natural improvement (over 20 dropped int's is highly unlikely to happen again) and adding pieces though, the secondary looks fine, lacks playmakers, but servicible.

I think he would be good competition for Clemons FS job, and he would not have as many questions.

Not really very much going on TP, have to absurd sometime.

 

It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it crashes the board again...

 

I'm all for bringing in nnamdi. Look what revis does for the jets. They win games with mark sanchez at qb.

 

I assume you're implying that Will Allen and Carrol could start for most teams, which I disagree with, but that's besides the point. Could they start for the good teams, the playoff teams, the teams w/ top tier defenses? I don't think so.

Allen hasn't played in two years. If he was healthy and ready to complete for a starter's role then why take a pay cut? IMO assuming he'll return to what he was in 09 is a mistake.

IMO Carrol is a good backup, but not someone I'd want lining up across form the leagues top WRs week in and week out. Harris was made expendable b/c he wasnt healthy, his straight line running was OK but his short area quickness was limited and he was clearly favoring his knee from the second he got on the field. In that spot I agree w/ playing Carrol instead, let the guy get some reps. Of course, going against the passing offenses of the Jets, Bills, Brows, & Lions isn't a great litmus test. I agree he played well considering he was a 5th rounder, but I don't see him as a starter.