*Packers vs Bears NFC Title Game Thread*

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BpkBpkLuxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:30 PM

What do you guys think of Lovie Smith? I mean, if he gets his team back to the Superbowl, with different co-ordinators.. pretty impressive.

ALalen1New Member
Jan 23, 2011, 03:32 PM

"Bpk wrote:

What do you guys think of Lovie Smith? I mean, if he gets his team back to the Superbowl, with different co-ordinators.. pretty impressive.


I think he gets it. He knows when he's doing too much or not doing enough IMO.

"Bpk wrote:

Don't understand the use of spot drops enough to help you there, bro.

btw, you'd like Pat Kirwan's book, "Take Your Eye Off The Ball"


Spot dropping is like Cover 2. Having a landmark or a spot to drop to. Pattern reading is matchup zone.

I thought once about buying it but passed. You've read it?

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:33 PM

"Bpk wrote:

What do you guys think of Lovie Smith? I mean, if he gets his team back to the Superbowl, with different co-ordinators.. pretty impressive.


I like him, but keep in mind 2 #1's for cutler and 50 million for Peppers he is not exactly building space shuttles out of empty beer cans.

djphinfandjphinfanSupporter
Jan 23, 2011, 03:34 PM

How funny would Henne look doing that strait backpedal like cutler..lol

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:35 PM

"Bpk wrote:

Apparently yes, under certain conditions. I think they'll avoid it on kickoffs, unless field position is critical (like an OT drive or something).


Should be fun to keep track of, to me I like the approach of actually threatening the opponent in all 3 phases of the game and on every play.

DesidesDesidesForum Veteran
Jan 23, 2011, 03:35 PM

"Bpk wrote:

What do you guys think of Lovie Smith? I mean, if he gets his team back to the Superbowl, with different co-ordinators.. pretty impressive.


Not a big fan. Way too conservative. Mike Martz was like his sixth choice for OC.

@desides01

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BpkBpkLuxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:38 PM

"alen1 wrote:

I think he gets it. He knows when he's doing too much or not doing enough IMO.


Spot dropping is like Cover 2. Having a landmark or a spot to drop to. Pattern reading is matchup zone.

I thought once about buying it but passed. You've read it?


Well, spot dropping it seems a higher chance you'll waste resources as a defender covers dead space with no routes to his side (eg cornerback in flats away from the play on a trips bunch to the opposite side where no routes are coming his way, or an obvious overloaad to run away from the CB's side).

I love Kirwans book because I learn tidbits here and there that I didn't know. You may already know most of it though. Also, you tend more to X's and O's and he only does a very little of that. He does let us know things like keys on a play, technique at positions, etc. I may post some of the stuff I liked in a thread at some point.

adamprez2003adamprez2003Forum Veteran
Jan 23, 2011, 03:38 PM

Huge sack by urlacher. Took them out of fg range. Stupid of rodgers not to throw it away there



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BpkBpkLuxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:39 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Should be fun to keep track of, to me I like the approach of actually threatening the opponent in all 3 phases of the game and on every play.


I said, seriously, that Green bays special teams will be a hugefactor today and we are already seeing it. This is very much a field position battle and STs will account for a TD worth of field position by game's end.

ALalen1New Member
Jan 23, 2011, 03:39 PM

"Bpk wrote:

Well, spot dropping it seems a higher chance you'll waste resources as a defender covers dead space with no routes to his side (eg cornerback in flats away from the play).

I love Kirwans book because I learn tidbits here and there that I didn't know. You may already know most of it though. Also, you tend more to X's and O's and he only does a very little of that. He does let us know things like keys on a play, technique at positions, etc. I may post some of the stuff I liked in a thread at some point.


That's the exact complaint of spot dropping.

Interesting.

ALalen1New Member
Jan 23, 2011, 03:40 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

Huge sack by urlacher. Took them out of fg range. Stupid of rodgers not to throw it away there


He had to roll out to throw it away. If he throws it away there, its grounding.

BpkBpkLuxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:42 PM

Chicago Code commercial. Well, football aside, Chicago beats Green Bay hands down in terms of TV shows set in their city.

adamprez2003adamprez2003Forum Veteran
Jan 23, 2011, 03:42 PM

"alen1 wrote:

He had to roll out to throw it away. If he throws it away there, its grounding.

just throw it at a receivers feet like cutler just did



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BpkBpkLuxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:43 PM

Huge chance for the Packers Special Teams if Bears punt from endzone. Packers STs could help win this game with a big return or block.

BpkBpkLuxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:44 PM

"Bpk wrote:

Huge chance for the Packers Special Teams if Bears punt from endzone. Packers STs could help win this game with a big return or block.


aaaand Tramon is thinking the same thing and tries TOO hard for the big return, ends up screwing up.

ALalen1New Member
Jan 23, 2011, 03:44 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

just throw it at a receivers feet like cutler just did


I may be wrong but I didn't see anyone close to him.

BpkBpkLuxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:45 PM

Watching well coached, well played football really makes me see the gap between where we are and where great teams are.

adamprez2003adamprez2003Forum Veteran
Jan 23, 2011, 03:45 PM

Interesting game so far. Bears defense doing a nice job collapsing pocket now



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ALalen1New Member
Jan 23, 2011, 03:46 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

Interesting game so far. Bears defense doing a nice job collapsing pocket now


TJ Lang is responsible and so are their fire zones.

adamprez2003adamprez2003Forum Veteran
Jan 23, 2011, 03:47 PM

"alen1 wrote:

I may be wrong but I didn't see anyone close to him.

I got caught up watching the pocket collapse but I gotta think he had acheckdown option or two in the flats or nearby



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BpkBpkLuxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:47 PM

Thought he'd pick a hole earlier.

ALalen1New Member
Jan 23, 2011, 03:48 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

I got caught up watching the pocket collapse but I gotta think he had acheckdown option or two in the flats or nearby


Possibly.

adamprez2003adamprez2003Forum Veteran
Jan 23, 2011, 03:49 PM

Grt move by b jax



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BpkBpkLuxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:49 PM

Wow. This Bears D doesn't look like I thought it would. And Urlacher looking less athletic than I remember him.

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Jan 23, 2011, 03:49 PM

Bears Safeties are being exposed.