Pat Kirwin's Mock Draft 4.0

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padre31padre31luxury_boxOP
Mar 22, 2010, 07:58 PM

10. Jacksonville Jaguars
Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech

Texas' Earl Thomas has been in this slot for a few weeks, but he is dropping slightly in the minds of some, and Georgia Tech's Thomas is moving up. So for now, the Jags switch Thomases. I could see Rolando McClain as the next guy in this spot as people continue to talk about his versatility. (Previous pick: Earl Thomas)

11. Denver Broncos
Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama

The Broncos bought a new defensive line in free agency and can now focus on the big inside linebacker to play on the strongside. McClain is a perfect fit and the inside linebacker class for the 3-4 teams is lean. (Previous pick: McClain)

12. Miami Dolphins
Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas

Sure, the Dolphins could use a nose tackle, but they also need a special outside linebacker to rush the passer. Bill Parcells has drafted DeMarcus Ware, Lawrence Taylor and Carl Banks to name a few for his 3-4 defense. Hard to resist a guy that made a combined 50 sacks and tackles for loss throughout his college career. (Previous pick: Kindle)

13. San Francisco 49ers
Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

Williams was the pick last week but with Scot McCloughan no longer the general manager in San Francisco and Mike Singletary having more influence on the draft, the Niners' draft philosophy could change. They need a right tackle and he's the best one left on the board. (Previous pick: Williams) Vote: NFL Draft MVPs

14. Seattle Seahawks
Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech

The Seahawks may take a defensive end with the No. 6 pick, but if they stay in this order, Morgan makes sense for a team that just traded away Darryl Tapp and isn't sure if Patrick Kerney is coming back. Morgan had 12.5 sacks and 18.5 tackles for a loss last year in 14 games. (Previous pick: Demaryius Thomas)

15. New York Giants
Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri

Some think I have Weatherspoon too high, but I had one coach tell me on Sunday he's not high enough. We'll see what the truth is in a month. For now, after watching his game tapes and practices, I will tell you that this versatile athlete can play any of the linebacker spots -- and the Giants have multiple openings. A 239-pound guy that is very smart, runs a 4.6 40, had over 400 tackles in his college career and squats 770. (Previous pick: Weatherspoon)

16. Tennessee Titans
Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida

The Seahawks' trade of Tapp could force Seattle to take a defensive end, and that should affect the Titans two picks later. Pierre-Paul is rich on potential and physical attributes but raw on experience and production. The Titans have a great defensive line coach and he will get the most out of Pierre-Paul, who will be asked to replace Kyle Vanden Bosch. (Previous pick: Derrick Morgan)

17. San Francisco 49ers
Joe Haden, CB, Florida

The Niners saw the improved speed at Haden's pro day and they need a corner. One astute personnel director said, "I love Joe, but he was mostly a boundary corner in college and I'd be careful." (Previous pick: Haden)

18. Pittsburgh Steelers
Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State

The Steelers have other needs, but they need a corner now. They lost Bryant McFadden last year in free agency and their other corners are either old or inconsistent. The Ravens and the Bengals are both bolstering their receivers, meaning the Steelers need to improve at corner. (Previous pick: Wilson)

19. Atlanta Falcons
Brandon Graham, OLB/DE, Michigan

The signing of Dunta Robinson took care of the cornerback situation and now the Falcons turn their interest to the rest of the defense. There are solid defensive tackles on the board like Dan Williams and Brian Price, but Graham gives them a hybrid OLB/DE to rush the passer and eventually replace John Abraham. Graham made 85 plays behind the line of scrimmage in college. (Previous pick: Graham)

20. Houston Texans
Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee

It wouldn't surprise me if the Texans take a corner here, but Williams could slide to them. Taking Williams would solidify their defensive line, which will make any secondary look better. (Previous pick: Brian Price)

21. Cincinnati Bengals
Taylor Mays, S, USC

The Bengals may have Earl Thomas and Carlos Dunlap on the board to choose from, and some would say Mays should be lower in the draft. The truth is the Bengals will get better on defense at this spot no matter what they do. Mays will impress the coaches with his knowledge of the game, and his dedication is unquestioned. (Previous pick: Jason Pierre-Paul)

22. New England Patriots
Jared Odrick, DT/DE, Penn State

Odrick solves a glaring need on the defensive line with the loss of Richard Seymour and Jarvis Green. Odrick is versatile and can line up at end or tackle. (Previous pick: Odrick)

23. Green Bay Packers
Maurkice Pouncey, C/G, Florida

Pouncey is a Day 1 starter at guard or center. Two line coaches confirmed what I saw on tape about his first-round grade, even though few guards or centers go in the opening round. (Previous pick: Mike Iupati)

24. Philadelphia Eagles
Mike Iupati, G/T, Idaho

Iupati is a Day 1 starter at guard and a potential answer at tackle down the road. The Eagles are building a very young offense right now and Iupati is a 10-year answer on the line -- especially after the release of Shawn Andrews. (Previous pick: Everson Griffen)

25. Baltimore Ravens
Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida

He has some maturity issues, but the Ray Lewis influence will take care of that if he wants to get on the field in Baltimore. The facts are the Ravens lost starting defensive ends Dwan Edwards and Justin Bannan in free agency, Trevor Pryce is long in the tooth and this 6-foot-6, 277-pound guy that ran 4.61 at his pro day fits a need. (Previous pick: Patrick Robinson)

26. Arizona Cardinals
Brian Price, DT, UCLA

Price looks like a great fit in a 4-3 defense and the Cardinals play a 3-4 defense, but he can still be a disruptive nose tackle. Bryan Robinson is still unsigned and the team just gave significant money to OLB Joey Porter, otherwise I might have Ricky Sapp in this spot. I would really like to see them take a tight end like Jermaine Gresham if he were available. (Previous pick: Charles Brown)

27. Dallas Cowboys
Earl Thomas, DB, Texas

This is a big slide for Thomas, whom I had going at No. 10 to Jacksonville last week. He may go higher than this spot, but if he's here, he solves a problem in the Dallas secondary. Thomas is a fine player (but not without his critics here at the owners meetings). (Previous pick: Nate Allen)

28. San Diego Chargers
Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State

I talked with Mathews this week and he told me he wore No. 21 in college because he idolized LaDainian Tomlinson growing up in California. He winds up in this spot every week and as long as a team like Houston doesn't take him earlier, he would be a solid fit for the Chargers. He had 1,808 rushing yards as a senior. (Previous pick: Mathews)

29. New York Jets
Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State

He's too good to pass up this late in the first round. He pairs up with Braylon Edwards and Jerricho Cotchery to give Sanchez lots of targets. Head coach Rex Ryan can handle whatever personality quirks come with Bryant. (Previous pick: Bryant)

30. Minnesota Vikings
Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State

The Vikings re-signed Jimmy Kennedy for depth at defensive tackle and there have been five drafted already, so they head to their biggest need, a corner. They could look at Robinson or Devin McCourty from Rutgers and not go wrong. (Previous pick: Taylor Mays)

31. Indianapolis Colts
Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers

Center Maurkice Pouncey has been in this spot for three weeks but other teams ahead of the Colts value him now, according to the line coaches. Corner is a need and McCourty has been rising up draft boards. (Previous pick: Maurkice Pouncey)

32. New Orleans Saints
Everson Griffen, DE, USC

Gone is Charles Grant after being released. Carlos Dunlap was in this spot last week, but he is moving up draft boards. Griffen is a solid choice at the end of the round. (Previous pick: Carlos Dunlap)

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d81714d0c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Fun stuff, Dez Bryant at #29?

E Thomas at #27?

But hey, he is foisting Sergio Kindle off on us again.

ALalen1New Member
Mar 22, 2010, 08:12 PM

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azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Mar 22, 2010, 08:17 PM

Hasn't this been posted over and over again? Or is this a new and improved model?
If so, I swear our FO isd paying him off to help paint this smokescreen.
If this happens, I very well might have an Orange, Aqua and White bonfire in my backyard.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Mar 22, 2010, 08:26 PM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

Hasn't this been posted over and over again? Or is this a new and improved model?
If so, I swear our FO isd paying him off to help paint this smokescreen.
If this happens, I very well might have an Orange, Aqua and White bonfire in my backyard.

No, Dez Bryant has not been as far back as #29 before, ditto Earl Thomas.

Kirwin is either way ahead of the curve or he has lost his mind.

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Mar 22, 2010, 08:39 PM

"padre31 wrote:

No, Dez Bryant has not been as far back as #29 before, ditto Earl Thomas.

Kirwin is either way ahead of the curve or he has lost his mind.

But he still has us taking 'suerzzio'.
I watched this kid last year A LOT.
If we could trade back and get him anywhere from about pick 60 back, then and only then would we be getting our money's worth IMO.
We will see....we indeed will see.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Mar 22, 2010, 08:51 PM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

But he still has us taking 'suerzzio'.
I watched this kid last year A LOT.
If we could trade back and get him anywhere from about pick 60 back, then and only then would we be getting our money's worth IMO.
We will see....we indeed will see.

hehe..you have to roll your keyboard:

Ssseerrrggiiioooooooo

I hear ya Az, I'm tempted to start a thread asking the Draft Guru types how much Dan Williams reminds them of Haloti Nata..purely because all of the media types are determined to pawn Williams, or Ssssssssseeeeerrrrgiooo Caliente' on the Phins.

Not that I hate him as a player, but I suspect he is more of a #40-#60 pick than a top 15 type.

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Mar 22, 2010, 08:55 PM

"padre31 wrote:

hehe..you have to roll your keyboard:

Ssseerrrggiiioooooooo

SNORT :sidelol:

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Mar 23, 2010, 08:13 AM

"padre31 wrote:

No, Dez Bryant has not been as far back as #29 before, ditto Earl Thomas.

Kirwin is either way ahead of the curve or he has lost his mind.

Kirwin didn't just post this in the past day or so. I've seen mock drafts from him with Bryant that low for over a week. The other nfl.com mock draft guy, Bucky Brooks, has Bryant in the 20s as well.

Kirwin's 1.0 mock draft from 18 days ago or so, has Bryant 25th
2.0 version has Bryant going 27th.
3.0 and 4.0 versions both have him going 29th.

Kirwin has had Bryant low through all 4 of his mock drafts.

As for Earl:
1.0 he is 12th
2.0 he is going 10th
3.0 he is still 10th
4.0, Pat drops him to 27th.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Mar 23, 2010, 08:28 AM

To compare with the other nfl.com "expert", Brooks has done 3 mock drafts with Earl and Dez as follows:

3.0 has Dez 21st and Earl going 24th.
2.0 version has Dez 11th and Earl 20th
His 1.0 version, the oldest of his mock drafts, has Dez 21st and Earl 20th

Brooks, btw, is about the last draft analyst I'd pay any heed to. He is all over the place on players. He has Sam Bradford going 26th to the Cards in his first two versions, then catapults him all the way up to #1 overall in his latest version. How can one respect the intelligence of someone like that? Heck, Omar looks brilliant next to Brooks.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

GMJohnsonGMJohnsonNew Member
Mar 24, 2010, 03:55 PM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

But he still has us taking 'suerzzio'.
I watched this kid last year A LOT.
If we could trade back and get him anywhere from about pick 60 back, then and only then would we be getting our money's worth IMO.
We will see....we indeed will see.


THANK YOU!!! Kindle would be a terrible pick. He stinks vs the run, has no pass rush moves to speak of, and the few sacks he did get in college were against overmatched college RTs. He'd only be a fit at WOLB, when our top need is SOLB, and his skill set is similar to Cam Wake except he'd be making 3-4 times as much money. I swear I dont know how some of these Mockery drafts ever hit the wire.

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