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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by JJ_79, Sep 13, 2025 at 12:32 PM.

  1. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Alex Smith qb rating 104 with 49ers.Harbaugh knew not winning Sb with this guy traded him to chiefs.
    Smith had ironically 104 qb rating with chiefs.Next year traded to redskins.
    Both coaches knew they needed upgrade to get to next level and they were right.Tua is not elite!
    Qb rating is not be all and end of all of how good a qb is.
     
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  2. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    And it's my opinion not trying to insult you.
     
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  3. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yeah I get it, the metrics that you believe are the best predictor of winning were good...but the numbers were fool's gold. Those numbers weren't a result of Tua, they were a result of the offense. Tua was the result/beneficiary of a novel new offense with one of the fastest receiving corps in the league. Tua was just a cog, he didn't drive it.

    That's what I've been trying to explain to you for years.
     
  4. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    This is a problem:

    Mike McDaniel - "I won't spend a moment worrying about my job security."

    Well you ****ING SHOULD BE.
     
  5. cbrad

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    Can't just replace Tua with most other QBs and get that kind of performance. That's why it does have a lot to do with Tua. Now Tua may be limited to a smaller range of offensive systems than a true "elite" QB, but he's not just a cog in a machine if he's hard to replace.
     
  6. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Please don't make me defend Tua, not with us having such a sh!tty season but there is more than enough of a sample pool to indicate that it's not JUST the offense. Tua has been injured enough times that no other quarterback could come in and run the offense with the same results. It's a symbiotic relationship. Did Tua benefit from this system of offense? Yes. Can ANY quarterback come in and run this offense with the same results? No, because if they could, we wouldn't have lost as many games without Tua as we did
     
  7. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    On a cooler note, how sweet was that move Achane put on the defender after he caught that pass in the 4th where his TD was called back? I love this kid!
     
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  8. Vertical Limit

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    Its sad the position we are in.. where we may very well be 0-3 after Thursday night… but we may follow it up with 2 wins against the jets and panthers (bad teams) and now we are 2-3..

    that middle side of not being good enough team to make the playoffs and actually be good in the playoffs but not bad enough to demand a rebuild.. that part is brutal as a fan.

    mcdaniels is way below .500 against winning teams. But he has a positive record against bad teams
     

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