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Discussion in 'Gaming Forum' started by danmarino, Jan 12, 2017.

  1. danmarino

    danmarino Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I've done a quick search of this forum, but didn't see anyone talking about PC gaming much. Anyone?
     
  2. Desides

    Desides Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It is true that console peasantry is a popular topic here, but relax, brother, for we know #PCMR is the true way.
     
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  3. mor911

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    I play more on pc than consoles.
     
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  4. Unlucky 13

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    There was a time in the late 90s-early 2000s that I did about a quarter to a third of my gaming on my PC, but those days are long gone. Between changes to the industry, the improvement in console game quality, big screen TVs, and the types of games that are being made, I'm much happier with my PS4.
     
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  5. #1 fan

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    PC here too

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  6. Desides

    Desides Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And then you get a PC and project 4K onto a wall and realize you've been doing it wrong. :tongue2:
     
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  7. Stitches

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    I can easily play my PC games on my projector screen.
     
  8. mor911

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    i am happier with the options on PC. And as many video games as I buy (a crapton), you can typically find games significantly cheaper on PC. RE7 is a perfect example. $60 on console.... If you look, it's as low as $34 on PC.

    Edit: Plus you can't play Factorio on a console (yet I guess). That game is brilliant.
     
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  9. danmarino

    danmarino Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What are some of your current favorites? Anyone big into MMORPG?
     
  10. mor911

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    Used to play a lot of WOW. Was in a regular raiding group and all. Then stopped after Pandaria. Loved the story of Garrosh and the whole Pandaria expansion. Then it all fell apart for me.

    Factorio!


    Civ 6


    Astroneer


    Just some of the crap I've been playing.
     
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  11. Unlucky 13

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    I would be very, very interested in Civ 6 if I could get it on a physical disc and play without an internet connection. And if my laptop wasn't four years old and seemingly near death, lol.
     
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  12. mor911

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    Civ 6 runs well on my 5 year old mac. For what it's worth ;)
     
  13. Not So Fast

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    PC here as well. I plays FPS, Adventure, and Indies on it mostly. Have a PS4 for the exclusives.
     
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  14. Stitches

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    You definitely can, I bought a physical copy at launch (of course I just used the code to download instead of the cd to install).
     
  15. Unlucky 13

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    Oh you can? I can't seem to find them in stores anywhere, and Amazon only sells the digital version. Gamestop claimed that they could get it for me, then realized that they couldn't. And after the initial forced anti-piracy download, you can play completely offline? And never install any other programs (like Steam)?
     
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  17. Unlucky 13

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    OK, thanks man. I bookmarked that. This might seem a strange question, but keep in mind that I haven't bought and kept a new PC game since Windows XP. Will Steam just sit there in the background and do nothing, or is it sending data back to them? I worry about it bleeding my bandwith allowance dry, bit by bit. Years ago, I tried to get another game, and after installing it, it continued to try to communicate to the servers, and used gigs worth of data in just a few days. I deleted everything, and haven't tried again since.
     
  18. Desides

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    Steam doesn't do telemetry, if that's what you're asking. It will only download updates automatically if you select that option, and it won't download very many updates to begin with unless you're on the beta update channel. You shouldn't be concerned.
     
  19. Unlucky 13

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    I happened to actually find a physical copy of Civ 6 in a Target yesterday, so based on the recommendations you guys gave me, I picked it up. Started installing it at about 8:30 last night and it finally finished at close to midnight. Used up almost 4 gigs of data in the process, but a lot of that was installing the Steam program, and then downloading all updates for the game. Hopefully, thats the worst of it. I wonder if I can turn off all auto updates? Haven't actually played the game yet, will try later on.
     
  20. danmarino

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    I just bought Civ 6 off of Steam this past Sunday. I've yet to start playing it.
     
  21. Unlucky 13

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    Played a few hours of CIV 6 last night. I've played the series for more than 20 years, but hadn't played a new one since the expansions to CIV 4 came out about a decade ago. (I've been playing that one since then).

    This one is a BIG departure from the previous games I'm used to, and there will be a big learning curve. I tried one game on the default difficulty setting (Prince), and was demolished not by other civs, but by barbarians. It was brutal. Then, I moved the difficulty down one level, and played a fairly long game, but was decimated eventually also. Later, I moved it down to just one step above the lowest setting, turned barbarians off, and am treating it as a long tutorial about how to play the new game.

    There are so many differences that its a new experience and a big challenge. It seems that you just aren't able to create as many cities as in previous versions, and you're going to have far, far fewer military units. My general MO of peace and isolation until I can out-tech the rest of the world might be difficult to pull off. Also, tech trading seems to not be a thing anymore, and the other civs seem far less interested in trading resources, so my whole master plan will need to be reworked.

    And no surprise, my 4-year old Windows 7 PC is good enough to meet the minimum specs and run the game, but not nearly fast enough to even run the graphics at a medium level, so I miss out on all of the extras with the world leaders, but it is what it is.
     
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  22. danmarino

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    I probably won't start a game until this weekend. I haven't played Civ in probably 10 years. I really liked it back then and because it got good reviews here and on Steam I went ahead and bought it. Sounds like I may have a pretty big learning curve initially. lol

    Thanks for the review!
     
  23. Stitches

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    -There is an actual tutorial.
    -Barbarians are hard, but I really don't mind. It's a nice change, though bad spawns sometimes screw you.
    -I pretty much turn religion off.
    -You can do tech trading, or joint research or whatever.
    -As to military size, I feel like I got mine pretty big the one time I was going for domination. I didn't finish before a tech victory happened though.
     
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  24. Unlucky 13

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    OK. thank you. I must not have gotten to the point where tech trading was an option yet. I got to about the year 1500AD in one, and was surprised that no matter which leader I talked to, even one I had an alliance with, it just never showed as a possibility.

    I feel like the units take so long to build that I'm cheating myself if I make them instead of city improvements. I'm used to a typical unit taking 3-5 turns in a normal city, maybe 10 in one with poor production. So far, they take 10-12 in a good city, and 20-30 in a poor one. And instead of having 3-4 units per city by the time Im at about 500BC, I'm lucky to have one in each. With the rampaging hoards of barbarians that I encountered in my first game from the very start, I was overwhelmed fighting those guys off almost every turn.
     
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  25. Unlucky 13

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    Stitches, thank you for the tutorial suggestion. I guess I thought that I didn't need it, but it was very helpful. I learned some things that I had no idea about otherwise. I'm also now more convinced that the difficulty levels are all set higher than they used to be, and thats ok. I just have to find my own comfort zone.
     
  26. Phin McCool

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    PC gamer here too.

    Don't get a boatload of time to play but at the moment I'm playing Pro Evo 2017 and Dirt Rally. I have a wheel and pedals set up for my racing/rally games and I'm hoping to get one of those racing seat frame things which everything bolts on to.

    Any other Pro Evo or racing sim gamers out there?
     
  27. Desides

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  28. Unlucky 13

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    I read an article a few weeks ago (sorry, no link), that said on today's PCs, especially laptops, there is no benefit to paying extra for an i7 processor, even for gaming, and that most people should be good with an i5 unless you do graphic design, AutoCAD or other rendering. Would you guys agree with that?

    When I was last working, and selling PCs, there did seem to be a tick of difference for the i7, but that was 2013. Obviously, things likely have evolved since then. My own PC is an i5 from that year, and its on its last legs.
     
  29. Desides

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    Yes, that is generally true—due to the console-first design of most games, they don't take advantage of multiple cores or threads as well as they could. Thus, the primary distinguishing factor between the Core i5 and the Core i7, Hyperthreading, generally does not make a difference in gaming.

    THAT SAID, you must evaluate each game on a case by case basis. ArmA 3 is still singlethreaded because it runs on an ancient engine; Watch Dogs 2 is multithreaded and will not only take advantage of additional cores, but additional threads (Hyperthreading). It all depends on the game. Additionally, gaming-related tasks that occur out of game, like streaming or encoding game footage, absolutely takes advantage of the Core i7's Hyperthreading.

    So, look at the games that you want to play, see what they benefit from, then go from there.
     
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  30. Desides

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    Big stuff happening:

    February 27: GDC 2017
    February 28: AMD RX 500 announcement, Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti announcement
    March 2: AMD Ryzen release
    March 3: Nintendo Switch release

    Good time to be a gamer.
     
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  33. Unlucky 13

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    Thank you. ANY pc gaming im likely to do will be nothing more advanced than a strategy game like Civ. Im currently running civ6 at the absolute lowest settings, and it still takes forever to load, lol. Anything more advanced, ill stick with the PS4.
     
  34. danmarino

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    Speaking of hardware. This time last year I was looking to upgrade my home desktop. I'm not a huge gamer (mostly due to having a lot of kids and a wife and a job..lol), but I still like to play and when I get the chance I want it to run well.

    Anyhow, I purchased a Xidax computer. It cost me around $1500 and that included monitor etc. and it has some really nice components. If anyone is looking to get a new computer I HIGHLY recommend them. My old computer was built by me, and I always assumed that building one yourself was cheaper, but it's not really THAT much cheaper. Add to this that Xidax has a lifetime warranty on parts and service and I was sold. If my motherboard burns up in 5 years they will replace it. If my hard drive goes bad in 10 years they will replace it.
     
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    I hadn't heard of the brand before, but I checked it out on your recommendation and.....thats a lot more than I'm looking to spend on a laptop, lol. My needs aren't high end.

    Also, Chrome and Norton both warned me that their website isn't secure, for whatever reason.
     
  36. danmarino

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    Yeah, they can get up there. However, you can get a really nice gaming laptop for around $1100. Altjough, their laptops don't have the lifetime warranty.

    That's weird that you got that warning. I use Chrome and get no warnings from the site.
     
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  37. Stitches

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    Norton is as bad as anything you can get from an unsafe site.... :thumbdown:


    :tongue2:
     
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  38. Unlucky 13

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    I'm more in the $600 or so price range for my next laptop, lol.
     
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    GTX 1080 Ti announced. Standard GTX 1080s get a price cut and new revisions with faster memory.
     
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  40. danmarino

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    I currently have the ZOTAC GTX 1080 with an i7-7700K. I'm playing everything on ultra and getting over 60fps. I wonder what the specs for the new 1080 Ti will be. I hate that things upgrade so fast! lol
     

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