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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shouright, Sep 22, 2012.
"Reshad Jones breaks on the play, reads it perfectly and breaks it up..In real time, he would of picked that up or separted the head from the body..It was a very nice play, because, it was the first play, and it was on time from Moore, and it was his first option...Good recognition."
"Moore to Johnson on a reverse pitch..RJ blows that sh##up..very nice read and play."
Dude was flashin in camp, good to see it emerge..
I think he has looked pretty good so far. He's much more suited for SS IMO. Now the Dolphins need a FS that can be a playmaker and we might have the makings of a promising secondary.
I'd make my #1 free agent target Dashon Goldson of San Francisco. Him paired with Jones. Yes please.
sorry I'm still not a believer in him being the long term answer at strong or free safety
Just curious why? I see why you'd say that about FS, but what is it he lacks that would keep him from being a good SS?
And that would be the safe bet, since we're talking about a developmental player here, not someone who was considered a stud on draft day.
Sure but he had a lot of people tooting his horn still I believe, a lot of people saw potential to be a starter in this league.
Yeah, if we could get several of our young guns (Clemons, Jerry, Pouncey, Martin, Egnew, any of the WRs, Misi, etc, etc, etc) to come together at the same time....
I'm holding on to a smidgen of hope that he and Jimmy Wilson can be a very promising safety pair. I've seen enough of Clemons.
We'll see if he can bring more than just 1 week.
I was soured on Jones after last season. IMO, Clemons in 2010 as a starter looked better than Jones in 2011. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the rest of this season on whether he has turned the corner and will now be a solid productive starter.
I don't think FS/SS stereotypes are all that relevant in 2012. Switching up the role makes sense when the game has changed so much since those ideas became entrenched, especially in regards to the tight end which is I suppose the biggest reason for the SS/FS distinction.
If Jairus Byrd makes it to free agency, I think i might have him over Goldson. Dude is a ball hawk.
I agree that we need a playmaker at FS, especially if we keep Smith at CB. Smith and Clemons have some coverage skills, but neither one of them is even mediocre at creating turnovers. I havent seen enough of Marshall to form a hard opinion on him, but a secondary has to have SOMEONE back there who can take the ball away from the other team. Players we've had back there in the past may have been imperfect, but guys like Louis Oliver and Brock Marion could swing a game's whole momentum with a big pick or fumble recovery.
I thought he's played pretty well so far this year, especially against the run. Hopefully he has turned the corner and become a reliable safety for us.
I also think there is a stereotype that the SS is an "in the box" safety whereas the FS is the centerfielder with great range.
To be fair, he wasn't considered a "draft day stud" b/c he came out a year early. If he had stayed for his senior year, it's likely he'd have been a 2nd or 3rd rounder and one of the 2011 draft's best safety prospects.
You can't begrudge a guy for not being highly acclaimed enough.
Kid's been terrific so far in all phases.
You guys want a better secondary, you're better off drafting a pass rusher nowadays.
If only we'd gone for Goldson a couple of offseason ago when he was virtually free.
I think Reshad Jones also puts the Yeremiah Bell thing in pretty good perspective. They're not playing the same position in name, but Jones is playing probably better than Bell ever did. Having a 5th round pick play as well as Jones is a major coup, but replacing a high-money veteran and outplaying him is another.
sweet...sweet music to my ears. young strong defense.
There were numerous discussions during the offseason about whether this team had talent and some people didn't seem to get the different between talent and being a good football player. Reshad Jones has always had a lot of talent, but wasn't really a good football player yet. Now he seems to have turned the corner. Clemons is behind Jones in this regard, but not dissimilar. He has very good physical ability and although it has taken some time, he is playing pretty well. PFF has Clemons as its 14th ranked safety with positive grades in everything except pass rush, which he really hasn't done much of. Opposing QBs have a 40.6 rating when throwing at Clemons, with only 50 yards and 4 yards of YAC. He is tied for 3rd best among safeties at just 0.22 yards per cover snap. We very well might have our safety tandem of the future.