PFT:Redskins have to make smart choice with Haynesworth
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padre31luxury_boxOPThe Washington Redskins have a problem. Defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth wants out. But he knows that, in order to keep his $26 million in bonus money, he needs to show up for training camp and for every game.
So he'll be there, but he won't he happy. And he possibly will behave that way in the hopes of being traded or cut.
The Redskins have to make a choice. Do they dump him now in the hopes of avoiding a major distraction to the first year of the Mike Shanahan regime, or do they hold Haynesworth's lead feet to the fire in the hopes of teaching all current and future players that they won't be able to talk their way out of town?
Getting rid of him helps the team's short-term interests, while at the same time creating a possible blueprint for other unhappy players. Making an example out of Haynesworth advances the long-term interests, while likely undermining the "win now" vibe that has arisen from the decisions to acquire veterans like Donovan McNabb, Larry Johnson, and most recently Jammal Brown.
If the team forces Haynesworth to show up for training camp, he could behave in a manner similar to a certain wide receiver who disrupted significantly the Eagles' 2005 season. And, in the end, what did they gain by forcing Terrell Owens to continue to show up when he wanted out?
Coincidentally, the quarterback who endured the T.O. saga now faces another similar mess, with A.H. (a fitting set of initials, observes M.F.) poised to behave in similar fashion. So we suspect that Donovan McNabb to make known quickly and clearly, but hopefully discreetly, his desire to avoid another situation of that nature, lobbying for the team to get rid of Haynesworth before he can screw up the interests of a team that has a chance to compete right away in the relatively wide-open NFC East.
A good analysis from Florio on this situation, in the Jamal Brown Trade thread I was chatting with Alen about the thinking that has to go into the whole Fat Albert situation, and as Florio shows, there is much more to it than "he can play the 3 technique" (no offense meant to Alen).
And notice, Florio tosses McNabb's time in Philly with TO, but never delves into whether or not Haynesworth can actually help the 2010 Redskins Defense? Which at the end of the day is "the" decision imho.
BTW, Haynesworth is something of a hero for me, he shares my disdain for the 3-4..:D
MikeHonchosubscriberSend his sorry behind to Oakland.
Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.
"padre31 wrote:
A good analysis from Florio on this situation, in the Jamal Brown Trade thread I was chatting with Alen about the thinking that has to go into the whole Fat Albert situation, and as Florio shows, there is much more to it than "he can play the 3 technique" (no offense meant to Alen).
And notice, Florio tosses McNabb's time in Philly with TO, but never delves into whether or not Haynesworth can actually help the 2010 Redskins Defense? Which at the end of the day is "the" decision imho.
BTW, Haynesworth is something of a hero for me, he shares my disdain for the 3-4..:D
The stuff Florio wrote has nothing to do with his actual play in the scheme, which I was arguing, it's all about how bad of a teammate he can be.
padre31luxury_box"alen1 wrote:
The stuff Florio wrote has nothing to do with his actual play in the scheme, which I was arguing, it's all about how bad of a teammate he can be.
Which is sort of my point Alen, there is more that goes into a player move than talent, there is a sort of mix of factors that have to be worked out that are as important as highly paid talent.
Imho that is a good illustration between a Scout and what a GM and Head Coach have to weigh.
"padre31 wrote:
Which is sort of my point Alen, there is more that goes into a player move than talent, there is a sort of mix of factors that have to be worked out that are as important as highly paid talent.
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I am aware of what goes into it, I just don't get why Haynesworth is bitching so much when his responsibilities may not change much.
padre31luxury_box"alen1 wrote:
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I am aware of what goes into it, I just don't get why Haynesworth is bitching so much when his responsibilities may not change much.
Honestly, imho Haynesworth is bitching because he knows if he is released another team will give him another large payday.
"padre31 wrote:
Honestly, imho Haynesworth is bitching because he knows if he is released another team will give him another large payday.
I'll be very surprised if he gets more money than he's gettign right now. I'd say that he wouldn't get half of what he's getting now if he hit the market, unless Al Davis gets after him.
padre31luxury_box"alen1 wrote:
I'll be very surprised if he gets more money than he's gettign right now. I'd say that he wouldn't get half of what he's getting now if he hit the market, unless Al Davis gets after him.
He wouldn't make more, he would make another large payday.
He already has 21 million in his pocket, and that does not include his 2009 upfront bonus, if manages to be released, he can sign a 1 yr deal, reprove himself, then hit another large payday.
Joey Porter showed how that works, and Porter isn't half the player Haynesworth is from a talent perspective.
And let me add that the Redskins know this, that (also imho) is why they gave him 21 million in April, if they wind up cutting him this year there won't be any Cap Problems paying down his bonus in future years, Shanny and Allen were more or less protecting the Franchise's future no matter what happens with Fat Albert.
MikeHonchosubscriberNeeds to grow a $100 million sack.
Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.
#1dolphinsfanNew MemberThe guy is a beast when he acually plays if he were to give 100% every game he would easly be a HOFer IMO
"padre31 wrote:
He wouldn't make more, he would make another large payday.
He already has 21 million in his pocket, and that does not include his 2009 upfront bonus, if manages to be released, he can sign a 1 yr deal, reprove himself, then hit another large payday.
Joey Porter showed how that works, and Porter isn't half the player Haynesworth is from a talent perspective.
And let me add that the Redskins know this, that (also imho) is why they gave him 21 million in April, if they wind up cutting him this year there won't be any Cap Problems paying down his bonus in future years, Shanny and Allen were more or less protecting the Franchise's future no matter what happens with Fat Albert.
If there's an idiot GM out there who would sign this guy to a lucrative deal after only one year and after this debacle, then he deserves to get fired IMO.
Big ENew MemberThe NFLPA needs to step in and make him abide to his contract, IMO. Or pay back the money and hit the road.
Desidesforum_veteran"alen1 wrote:
If there's an idiot GM out there who would sign this guy to a lucrative deal after only one year and after this debacle, then he deserves to get fired IMO.
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padre31luxury_box"alen1 wrote:
If there's an idiot GM out there who would sign this guy to a lucrative deal after only one year and after this debacle, then he deserves to get fired IMO.
There will be one, maybe a couple, big men who can move and produce are just hard to find, Fat Albert would fit in on several defenses, even the Vikings with one of the Williams Wall approaching their later 30's.
sloppyjoerNew Member"Big E wrote:
The NFLPA needs to step in and make him abide to his contract, IMO. Or pay back the money and hit the road.
THIS x100. Like, WTF. Contract signed, and sealed. Get your ass to camp Fat Albert. I don't care if you are the ball-boy, if they are gonna pay their share of the deal, get your useless ass in there and honour yours, no matter the role.
gafinfansubscriberSince I have no Idea how his contract reads I can only guess but surely there has to be some way the Redskins can get some of their money back and then cut him at the last possible moment to curtail any future problems, thus saving some of this years salery in that process.
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