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Phillip Rivers?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Puka-head, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    I'll be the first to throw it out there. First I've heard anyhow. Sign Rivers. Keep Fitz. Bye Rosen.

    Rivers can play for a home team for 3 years 60-65 millish 25 guaranteed, team option 3rd year. Fitz can start working on his next life as a QB coach and start grooming___insert Dolphins 1st round QB pick here___for his new job in 2022 while backing Rivers up. Or not. If I have to/get to pick, love Fitz, but Rivers please

    That lets the Dolphins get competitive quickly while building the team for success when the rookie should be primed. They can absolutely afford Rivers and Fitz. Especially if they throw in free day care.
     
  2. thetylernator

    thetylernator You're as cold as ice, Officer Friendly.

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    Why would Rivers--38 years old--want to come to Miami, in what is obviously a bridge role on a team that is in the middle of a complete rebuild? He's in the twilight of his career. He's going to go somewhere that offers him a chance to win now, such as Indianapolis or Tampa Bay. I'm not even sure Rivers makes Miami more competitive than Fitzpatrick. If we're looking at 2019 results, Fitz is better at this stage in their respective careers.

    Besides, isn't having Fitzpatrick + Rivers redundant?
     
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  3. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    I don't think Indi or Tampa are all that much further ahead of us at this point. They both are a bit older with their young teams but the end of last year showed this team is competitive and getting better. I'd give the nod to Tampa of the two.

    Rivers moved to Fla, Dolphins compete with Tampa there.

    Fitz and Rivers would be redundant, Rivers and Fitz would not, and as I said if there can be only one, thanks for the memories Fitz.
    Rivers makes all 3 of these teams more competitive.
     
  4. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    The draft can't get here soon enough.
     
  5. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    Indy has a good O line. If they can afford him he should consider them.
     
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  6. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Rosen Staff Member Club Member

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  7. AGuyNamedAlex

    AGuyNamedAlex Well-Known Member

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    Tampa is a playoff team if their QB doesnt throw like 3 INT a game.

    Indianapolis may not be that far ahead talent wise but that division is pretty bad objectively.

    You could say ours is bad but I expect the Pats and Bills to remain solid even if they arent dominant.
     
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  8. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Rivers is DONE. No thanks. Go look after your child army Phil.
     
  9. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    At this point in his career, Fitz is better than Rivers. Let that set in.

    Don't get caught up in a name, the NFL is a "what have you done for me lately" league. Just think about this, the Chargers are letting one of the best players in team history walk. Why? Because they know he is done. This is a major tell.
     
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  10. DOLFANMIKE

    DOLFANMIKE COACH Luxury Box

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    Nope. Keep Rosen. Start Rosen. Sign Free Agents and draft around him.
     
  11. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Rosen Staff Member Club Member

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    Hell yes.
     
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  12. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Ewww. I guess if the staff really thinks that highly of Rosen then ok, but ... ewwww.
     
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  13. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Rosen Staff Member Club Member

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    Not to derail the thread, but I doubt its going much of anywhere anyways. I would much, much rather go with Rosen than any of the QBs in this year's class.
     
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  14. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Again, if the coaching staff feels that way, nothing I can do but hope for the best. But he showed nothing to me that would warrant him sniffing a backup role, let alone starter and passing over high-end QB talent.

    That said, I'd probably give him a shot over Rivers lol.
     
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  15. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Rosen Staff Member Club Member

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    I feel the same way about Tagovolia.
     
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  16. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I mean, dude hasn't taken an NFL snap, but that's your right. We all get attached to various players, sometimes they turn out great, sometimes they don't, usually they are just kinda fine.

    At least we agree that Rivers blows right now it seems. :up:
     
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  17. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Most overrated qb of all time..Phillip rivers..
     
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  18. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Rivers to Miami makes sense in my opinion....He strikes me as a guy that is more concerned with his family and where their location will be as opposed to winning. Sure....Indianapolis has a better team that is in a better position to compete, but who the hell (with ten kids) wants to live in Indianapolis when they don't have to? Why would Phillip Rivers move his colossal sized family there? Miami is certainly a better location unless you just like...Ya know....Indianapolis.
    Given his financial bracket, he can afford to give his family the best life possible in a place like South Florida as opposed to Indianapolis. I think for Rivers personally...this works. I don't think his legacy is as important to him as it may have been ten years ago. We all know he's a competitive player, he acts a lot like Dan Marino used to at times. But I see a guy like Phillip Rivers (No I don't know him) taking a different route with his career. I don't think he'll chase a Super Bowl. I think he'd be more content to spend the final 1-2 years he has left playing the game he loves in a beautiful area with a content family. So that's why I see Rivers as a fit here. We'd have a very charismatic duo between him and Fitz, and what rookie wouldn't want to study under both of those guys? That would be a perfect situation. Call me crazy, but i'd say yes to Phillip Rivers in Miami.
     
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  19. Phin McCool

    Phin McCool Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, because I follow the Dolphins and spend my hard earned money on Dolphins merch just to be happy and content in the knowledge that some washed-up QB at the end of his career can come and go through the motions to enable his family to get a 365 day a year tan.

    'Gah, Rivers has just thrown his 4th interception before half time - no matter, look how radiant Tiff and the kids look in the private box. It just makes it all so worthwhile...'

    I'd rather have Tannehill back than bring Rivers in. There, I said it!
     
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  20. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    I really think Rivers has some game left in him. If you heard his presser when he left the Chargers he let everyone know he was Bretty Farveing the hell out of last season. Stuffs falling apart around me from the top down but eff it, I'm going to grip it and rip it if I get picked on 4th and 15 or whatever who cares.

    Does anyone here think Brady is any better than Rivers at this point? Rivers looked better last year as bad as it was. Fitz better than Rivers? Subjective at best, I'll leave it to the stat nerds to use the numbers to argue but I go by what I see. Out of those three, I'm taking Rivers. Under my scenario you get 2 of the 3 and a top pick. Bad how???

    But you right. No real chance of this being a serious thread. Kinda was hoping it would just help drive that stupid Titan QB thread off the front page.
     
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  21. Boik14

    Boik14 Admin Club Member Retired Administrator

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    I love Rivers as a competitor but he’s done. At best he needs to go to a team that he’s got a tremendous amount of help. Like New England if Brady actually walks. Or maybe Dallas if Dak walks. At best there’s 1 more year but he made wayyyy too many careless throws last year.
     
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  22. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Your "hard earned money"? Wow, you should really listen to yourself.
    Here's the thing, you twisted my words and then picked out the parts you liked to support your dullard "get off my lawn" old man rant. Nobody said anything about getting a tan, you did. Nobody said anything about his wife looking great, you did. You created those things in your mind. Either that or reading comprehension just isn't your thing. :confused2:
    I simply stated WHY he would want to come here. Not why I would want him to sign here, certainly not why Stephen Ross or anyone in charge would want him to either. The simplicity came down to Indianapolis (which has been mentioned) and Miami (which was also mentioned). Given their geographical locations, climates, and overall vibe, I simply was imagining that Miami would be the better choice if Rivers in fact had one. Then I explained potentially WHY Miami would be the choice. His family being probably the most important thing to him and keeping wifey happy....Well....I'll throw a dart and just guess that Miami would be the preference given the actual fact that they would be relocating from San Diego. So again....Just taking a simple stab at why Miami would make just a tad bit of sense for a player like Phillip Rivers. Sorry if it upset you:bag: I hope you have a wonderful day.
     
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  23. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    I definitely don't think Ryan Fitzpatrick is a better quarterback then Phillip Rivers. I don't think Brady really played any better either. I also don't think Rivers is done just yet. I think things got bad in LA last year, the team was losing, and he had finally had enough. On a new roster, with new players, and more talent, less commuting, less distraction, he might have a resurgence type of season like Kurt Warner did with Arizona back in the day. It's not out of the realm of possibility that some team catches lightening in a bottle with him for a year or two. That team probably isn't going to be us, but I am a big fan of his and I will certainly be rooting for him wherever he ends up...As long as it's not in New England or New York with the Jets.
     
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  24. Phin McCool

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  25. Etrius24

    Etrius24 Well-Known Member

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    Rivers to Miami is the worst idea I have ever heard.
     
  26. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Than you haven't heard very many ideas. Especially this teams.
     
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  27. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Rosen Staff Member Club Member

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    I've been a Dolphins fan since the mid 80s. Signing Rivers would be one of the worst moves in franchise history. Its just pointless, and offers no long term benefit.
     
  28. Etrius24

    Etrius24 Well-Known Member

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    Rivers has never won a thing in his life.

    Now he is pushing 40 and uber expensive.

    That is not something a rebuilding team would be looking for
     
  29. Etrius24

    Etrius24 Well-Known Member

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    Please just stop with this insanity.
     
  30. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    What can Trent Green do that Jay Fiedler can't?
     
  31. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    He's 38.
    How expensive is Uber expensive?
    Has he made a contract demand yet? Do you have any idea whatsoever what he would demand contract wise from the Dolphins or anyone else?
    Why wouldn't a "rebuilding team" be looking for veteran leadership while the future is learning his trade? Especially if said veteran knows thats his role.
    Tell me again how much worse of a decision giving a 2-3 year contract to Rivers is than any other decision this team has made IRT the QB position since 13 retired. I'm all ears.
     
  32. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Cullpepper over Brees.
     
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  33. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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  34. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Or maybe he could have a Chad Pennington kinda time here???
     
  35. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    It's the offseason, kids are home from school because of Covid-19. I got nothing better to do.
     
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  36. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Rosen Staff Member Club Member

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    What does that get us, long term? How does that make the Dolphins better from 2022 onward?
     
  37. Etrius24

    Etrius24 Well-Known Member

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    We do not need to sign Rivers... If the experienced Veteran to help a team rebuild is your argument... We have that in Fitzmagic. He is cheaper and he was the team MVP last season.

    Please come up with another reason why we need Rivers.
     
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  38. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Please see previous examples of why this isn't "the worst idea ever". If those are not sufficient I can provide others.

    Rivers>Fitzmajic.

    We don't NEED Rivers or Fitz. We can stink perfectly well without either. We can have both. To groom the new kid...insert current hot pick here...for 2022. Rivers gives us stability, better than Fitz performance on the field to allow the team time to build the infrastructure for the rookie to succeed. Fitz can back the other old man up while beginning his transition to QB coach and eventual OC or not.

    Between Fitz and Rivers there HAS to be a future NFL QB on the family roster. Plant that seed now!

    According to approximately 49.9% of the posters here the last QB to wear #17 was the greatest since the greatest so...

    Rivers may not have had a lot of post season success, but neither have the Phins during his career. He has won a few NFL games and has had a VERY successful career by any measure.

    Build the team. Let Rivers and Fitz show them how to ball to the wall and then turn em loose in 20 deuce!
     
  39. Etrius24

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    Fitz gave us plenty of Stability.

    Did you see this team play their guts our for Fitz and beat the Pats at the end of the season? There is no way that Rivers could ever be a better leader than Fitz has already proven to be.... None.

    Fitz is cheaper and when you look at the QB rating and the fact we had the worst O line and running game in football last year... I would say Fitz easily outplayed Rivers last year.

    This is not even a worthy topic for debate.
     
  40. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    And yet you keep debating it. Curious...
     
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