Here's a look at the QB's scheduled to become FA's after this season. No one has any idea if we will end up with a shot at Luck, or even Jones, in next years draft. IF we do, we will still need a vet QB. If we don't, we will need one as well but, the thinking of who will change.
So, for the sake of discussion, name the QB you would want with Luck, and without Luck. Add in with Jones or Barkley if ya like.
Ryan Fitspatrick- Buff does not have deep pockets.
Kyle Orton
Matt Flynn
Chad Henne
Drew Brees- NOT very likely
Jason Campbell
Josh Johnson
Vince Young
Carson Palmer- Who Knows what happens here.
Matt Moore- not a FA but, could be gone or kept.
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How is Palmer a FA?
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I'm not sure any of those would work outside of a Matt Moore or Vince Young. If we're fortunate enough to get Luck, Jones or even Barkley, then I would imagine that at least Luck or Jones may start from the get-go, and if Barkley doesn't he probably wouldn't be too far behind. In that scenario, most of the QB's you have listed probably would not be in any rush to sign here.
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I'm fine with Henne as the "Vet" /placeholder for Luck. Orton would be acceptable, assuming his pricetag plummets given his performance so far this season.
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Josh Johnson would be a likely option, especially if we hire Gruden.
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Gross. All of them. Except Drew Brees and there's no shot in hell.
There's a reason almost every team with a great QB drafted them. Because teams don't let great QBs walk. We've done everything to try and solve our QB quandary except invest a first round pick in a franchise prospect. Time to put an investment in the position. Either Luck, or the next best option.
I don't mind a vet as a backup though. But I think today it's getting easier for a young QB to start right away with all the rules designed to make passing easier and protect the QB.PhinsRDbest and dolfan32323 like this. -
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Matt Flynn intrigues me the most out of that list.
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If we land Luck or Jones, then a backup type of Qb is more in order, Afaik Moore is here on a two yr deal, he'd make a lot of sense to keep if things go that way.
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I had a guy working for me as a laborer who said we were going to the playoffs, and wanted to bet me $100. I told him he was crazy, knew nothing about football, and could not afford to bet $100.
He stayed in my ear as the season unfolded. We start 0-2, and he's still there. Go to 2-2 and now he's getting cocky. Go to 2-4, and I was finally fed up. Normally I would have fired him for being a PITA (Pain In The ***) but, he was a VG worker.
I told him I was gonna take his $100 at the end of the year to teach him that he had know more before making stupid bets.
I was soooo smart, and he was soooo dumb when I gave him his $100.
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For me SB, my epiphany about writing seasons off comes from two places:
-Tony Dungy's "a must win game is one you either win, or you are eliminated"
-My BC Lions starting 1-7 and 1-5 and turning both seasons around, if you think SFL is obnoxious, you should have experienced the lynch mob that was willing to run the all time winningest CFL coach out of town.
I guess to me, SFL is simply foriegn to me, as if they were speaking swahili, I'm wired to win and to do so now, anything else is simply unacceptable for me.
"If" we wind up with the #1 overall, fine, if we finish 8-8 or 12-4, that is fine as well, but I'm never prepared to embrace losses and losing as a mindset.siciliansith, Silverphin, RevRick and 1 other person like this. -
We had a very good QB, we didn't turn the ball over, we played one of the easiest schedules of all time, playing seven back up QB's and three teams going West to east to play 1 pm games.
Biggest difference, we had already started the turnaround by this point. We unveiled the wildcat in week 3 and should have beaten Houston to go to 3-3. Even when we were 2-4, it was clear we were competetive and could continue to be competetive.
This eyar, everything has been the opposite. We're using a abck up QB, we have a tough schedule, we've had to scale back rather than expand the offense, etc. -
I could see the SFL syndrome entering into this season but, after 12 games or so. Not now, as I was taught, with losing $100 on top of it.
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"If" the worst case happens, I'd much prefer a 08 Falcons scenario, were Smith and Dimitroff walked into a situation were there was talent, but it did not perform, then to walk into the abyss that was 07-08. -
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Yep he has quite the arm, too!
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I am of the mindset that I do not want the team to lose another game - ever. Is that realistic - well, to borrow my favorite phrase from "Big Jake" - Not Hardly.
But, the season will be what it is going to be, and right now it looks as if we are going to be way down the totem pole on the number of games in the W column. If we are low enough in that outcome to draft Luck, so be it. I would be happy if we drafted Landry Jones - I have seen him and am impressed with his presence on the field. If that is the case, I'd say keep Moore and Devlin. We have a lot of holes to fill on the OL and a decent MLB and SS to find, probably a TE would be in order as well.
But, if we somehow miss on the Big 2-3 QB's then we need to pick up a vet somewhere - perhaps Flynn, depending on how bad Moore and/or Rosenfels looks. If they can get us through a year without totally fouling up the detail, we might hope for a better chance at a QB later on, but that is kicking the can down the road too far for me..... I'm 62... I'd like to at least have the wildest hint of an opportunity to see the Phins in a Super Bowl before I go to meet the BOSS face to face. I don't feel like waiting another 18-20 years for one.
All that leads me to think is that we better pick a QB in the first round next year if we have any chance of doing so - presupposing that we don't choose a 2nd round pick in the first round just to grab a QB - and if we are picking higher than number 5-6... that may be the case - depending on how fast the QB's come off the board.
And if this wandering miasma doesn't make a lot of sense, forgive me. I am in the midst of battling bronchitis for the third week - and between coughing and the meds, I am not all here. Except my sore throat and pounding head - which is barely allowing my mind to function such as it is.
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He is older, and not quite as cocky. He now says, IF we beat the Jets, WATCH OUT, and get ready for a bet. The first bet was the first and only time I have ever bet against my team. I just may do it again to see what happens. :) -
Perhaps,just perhaps, these players took the bye week to look into the mirror and as WTF am I doing. Can't say that happened. However, IF it did, with everyone now healthy, we will be an entirely different team than we saw in the first 4 games. It is not far fetched to believe players will play as they have proven they can.
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Well, the D will turn it around, of that I'm pretty confident, to much talent on the unit and Nolan knows what he is doing as the DefCord, the real problem is will they get it done in time for it to matter?
Just have to wait and see what Moore has to offer as the Qb, there is no way around that one, we will go as far as he can take us, as even going with Slaton and DTrain you still need a Qb who can convert 3rd downs and run the offense. -
I think you're making a big assumption on the D turning it around. If Soliai and Langford can't two gap well and Nolan doesn't adjust they won't turn it around.
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Fitzpatrick is the best available, but I doubt we expend the resources to sign him with the current GM. FA happening before the draft will also change the dynamic (back to normal) compared to this off-season. I do think that the rookie cap would be a good reason to maybe sign Fitz because there's less front end money for unproven rooks.
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Buffalo may not have deep pockets but if Fitzpatrick stays the course all season, they will make sure he stays in Buffalo. They are going ot have a good record this year and there are not many QBs where they will pick in the draft and even fewer FA QBs for next year. Brees is not leaving NO and when the highlight of FA QBs is Kyle Orton then its a crap year :)
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If they get Luck he starts from day 1. Probably same goes for Barkley and Jones as well. So if they get anyone he would have to be a backup. If they don't get one of those 3 god help us all.
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If you're looking for a starting QB in free agency, well, you're going to continue to be a bad/mediocre football team. Starting caliber/franchise QB's do not become available in free agency, plain and simple.
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