http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...old-when-it-comes-to-wake?module=HP_headlines
I read many articles on what Ross, Ireland, and Sparano have to say. I discount most of them as saying nothing or, what they are supposed to say. This one is different.
I know that Wake is 29. I also know that he had a great year for us, played his heart out, and is making next to nothing (4years for $2.3M). Sparano said that he could regress if he doesn't do this or that, which is not really taking a shot at Cam. However, why say anything remotely resembling a negative at one of your two best players? What is the point?
Is it because Cam is looking for more money, which he has already earned? I just don't get it.
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Omar Kelly strikes again. :pity:
This is an opinion piece masquerading as inside information. Kelly has been complaining forever about Wake versus the run. In fact, he's been complaining about both starting OLBs, Wake and Misi, versus the run. He's a one-dimensional thinker. Reading his opinion pieces, one gets the feeling Kelly either wouldn't have signed Wake to begin with, or would have cut him after 2009's training camp.
One thing he is right about, though, is the need for additional pass rushers. But this is indirectly a shot at Koa Misi, who Kelly infamously got butthurt (for lack of a better term) over on Twitter. -
The Dolphins are just testing the market for Wake. If Wakes agent makes outrageous contract demands then the Dolphins needs to know Wake's value on the market.
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To me this just sounded like one of those "make sure you keep working hard" statements to a player they can't monitor. Wake has always been driven by the doubters and now he's listed among the top 100 and getting accolades so it's reasonable to worry that he could be a little less driven now.
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To make a comparison, Solia was a waste of space for a few years, was suspended twice, and not a starter until the second game of last season. We are willing to pay him $12M for this coming year because he had a VG year, and finding a NT is not easy.
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Wake was making about what a 2nd round pick would make. He signed a 4 year contract (IIRC) and has two seasons left. Generally you have to play about 3 years of that before you get to renegotiate or 4 years until you're a FA. I see no problem with that system. Sure, sometimes a player will out play his contract and sometimes he will under play the contract (more often), but it doesn't make sense for a player to renegotiate after one good season and the team can't get the guaranteed money back after a poor season.
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Difference is Solia was a free agent and we had to pay him that to keep him, and that $12M is just if they cant work out a long term deal also. I highly doubt if Cam was a FA we would let him walk rather then paying him a good amount.
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It would be folly to reward players after one good year if you didn't have to b/c unlike most businesses sports has a high percentage of players that stop performing after one year.
And the Soliai example is particularly irrelevant b/c if they weren't in a lockout situation they would have been working towards a negotiated deal and will probably still do that when the lockout ends. The only part that does compare is that Soliai played under his contract until he came up for free agency and then will either get a new higher contract or will get paid under the franchise tag. The FO had to decide whether to use the tag on a player that had only had one good year considering the player's age and position. When Wake reaches that point they will do the same or if he's had two good years they might then renegotiate one year early. They couldn't do that with Soliai b/c he hadn't performed that well after three years. -
All i know is that if we let him go ive lost all faith in our Front Office because without him we literally have no pass rush.
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BS article...Irish is not stupid, he found the stud, the premiere pass rusher in the game, that's his signature player that he found out of nowhere, you don't think hes gonna let him go do you, or criticize him??.please...man people will spin anything for a negative reaction..
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Sure he can test the market, his agent just starts barking about how hes underpaid and voila! hes testing the market. Usually happens with 1 year left on a contract but considering Wake is 29 I could see that scenario happening now.
The point is players and agents believe a player should renegotiate his contract whenever the situation suits them(pay raise). Coming off a DPOY; sackmaster type of year I can see Ireland playing the game of trade-bait if Wake's agent is playing the game of renegotiating his current contract. -
When Cam ends up with Rosenhaus, and we see another Matt Roth situation, we will know why. -
Nolan knows what he has.
He dominates and you pay a guy for his development :up: -
FO had faith in Anderson, Moses and old JT -
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If Wake has another big season he'll get paid....a lot. I wouldn't give him a huge contract yet if I was the ownership, right now he's had one big year, if he has another then he'll get a big paycheck but paying him now isn't really smart if you are the management of this team.
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Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member
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Ronin, If you did not doubt, you would not ask. And if you click on the above link, same one in the opening post of this thread, you will see that Wake has been lobbying to re-do his contract. :)
I also posted, some time ago, that the team was in negotiation with Wake's agent on an extension prior to the lockout, and were far apart. I don't have that link but, I think it was from Jeff Darlington, the Phins beat writer from the Herald. -
I took a look at what some others are making. Wake is at a salary of $480K this year, same as Ryan and Chris Baker, and Dotson, no longer here, was at $555K.
Berger is at $1.5M, Crowder at $2.5M, Sapp at $1.9M, Fields- 3 years at 2.2M, Denny, our long punt snapper, at 4 years, $3.03M.
Austin Spitler, Jerom Mastrud, and Matt Kopa are all at $405K.
Yes, Wake signed a contract, and yes he is supposed to wait another year to re-negotiate. However, as Padre pointed out, NFL contracts are not guaranteed, and pretty much meaningless.
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Part of "earning it" is paying your dues. That generally means that you'll play under value for a couple of years, but also if you stay decent you'll also be over paid later in your career. It's like the pro bowl where players generally get voted in a year after they deserve it and hang around a year after they deserve it as well.
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