He also said he never actually read the report.

He's saying nothing different than most of the guys who don't deny the behavior but don't think it was wrong.

And that's really the problem. Too many of the players don't get that you can't act that way anymore.

 

And what does he mean that Wells was paid by the league to do this report. Denney, I like you but newsflash... the league didn't intervene on their own, they likely were not going to do **** and just tell the Dolphins to handle your own mess. Ross asked the league to conduct an investigation because he was confident that this would clean up the Dolphins' image and nothing would be found and it backfired. Pretty sure if Ross knew the investigation would go down like that he wouldn't have asked Goodell to send Wells and this would be over.

 

If you actually read the report.... which I have there are a number of times they come up with inconclusive answers, but still assign blame to Incognito somehow right after they say it's inconclusive.

My prime example of this is the part of the report where they talk about J. Martin using homosexual references and jokes towards player A. Then they go on to talk about how he just did it to fit in. He may have, but he is also sending the message he is fine with hazing and "bullying" by exhibiting those same traits he accused others of.

 

That's our guy !

 

Oh great, another Dolphin player that will make headline news for the whole nation to see. I'm starting to think that Miami only drafts idiots into the program so they don't have to feed them or something...

 

I think the Wells report is BS.

It's credibility was definitely called into question with the O'neill thing.

 

Why is it BS?

Nobody has said the facts are wrong.

And O'Neill wouldn't talk, so what exactly was Wells suppsoed to do?

If he had told Wells the same story he told Dave Hyde he would probably still have a job. That's his problem

 

Was Mrs. Doubtfire a horror movie?

[video=youtube_share;1Ckv_Dz-Sio]http://youtu.be/1Ckv_Dz-Sio[/video]

Apparently facts can be used to portray anything.

 

Not sure what Denney's beef is. There really isn't anything that is being disputed. The fact are pretty much widely accepted by all parties at this point.

 

It's not that the facts are wrong; if you read the report closely though, every time Wells makes a "discovery", he backs it up with an excuse for the guilty player that they were not intentionally bullying, they did not realize they were doing something wrong, or that the coaches had never talked specifically about the situation. I'm not talking about in just a few places either; he covered the players butts almost every time he mentioned them...even Incognito.

Besides, the press called Incognito the ringleader; that's never specifically spelled out in the report except when it talks about the "fine book". Wells did say that Incognito was the lineman's top dog and that others tried to impress him, but that's completely different than saying that Incognito made other people bully each other. It's all excuses to allow this to fade away at the NFL's discretion.

On the other hand, the staff members didn't receive anywhere near the same treatment...it didn't look like those parts were even written by the same person. That tells us two things though-

- The NFL won't come down hard on the players and
- The fired coaches are done in the NFL

All in all, the Wells report is complete BS. It was bought and paid for by the NFL, so obviously it finds how they wanted it to find.

 

OK THIS crap has gone on long enough . I remember when we argued over signing free agents and whether we should draft offense or defense now the only threads being started is ones about Wells , Incognitio Martin and Pouncey.

 

Yeah, pretty sick of it too. More posting about this crap than actual football.

 

Yup, I hate it too. Absolutely hate it.

I'll tell ya what, tonight after work I'm going to start a thread on ten reasons why Tannehill is not the guy. That should get everyone's creative juices flowing since most here are waaaay pro-Tannehill.

 

Players need to just stop commenting on it and try and let it quietly go away. This is not helping.

 

I guess Denney needs to nominally stand upo for the players as the Union rep but his whole statement was something that might have beenr elevant in October, not know.

Now he just looks foolish, particularly considering he never actually read the report.

 

I agree that this is not helping, but he is the Dolphins player rep, so his comments are valid and should be voiced. Ideally these comments should have come out right after the report was released, but either way he deserves to have his say.

 

Dolphins players should just shut up and accept it. The way Tannehill talked about it today is the way that all of the players should handle the situation.

 

At least he had his chance to voice the opinion of many of the players involved .He is probably right but we need to move on from this unfortunate series of events .The future is now.There should be no backwards looking IMO .NFL careers are too short.

 

Doh...player didn't keep his mouth shut. Watch Philbin jettison him.

 

Kudos to Denney and any other Dolphin who'd rather wipe their *** with the Wells report than read it.

 

The bottomline is martin is a overly sensitive man who was and is not emotionally strong enough to play in the nfl!This is a game violent game played by violent men and a guy like him will never ever fit in.Martin should have acted like a man and handled it in house or just walk away from the game without crying to mommy that somebody hurt his feelings.
Everybody will say the right political thing but the reality is nobody wants him in their locker room.This guy has single handedly has changed the culture in every nfl locker room across the league.You really think the players across the league are happy about this?
In saying this I am sick of all this **** and want to get back to football talk.**** you martin for putting the negative spotlight on my phins!

 

those of you blaming denney for bringing it up....he didn't. I doubt he or anyone in that locker room actively goes out trying to bring the topic up.

I imagine they avoid the topic as much as they can but do any of you actually think the media has interest in reporting anything other than this "story"?

 

Do we need further proof that the Dolphins roster is not exactly the most intelligent group of 53 people?

I think Denney just can't resist being able to lord something over an offensive lineman, a "real" football player, just for once.

 

If he didn't read it, how does he know what it says?

 

Uhh cause no shuts the **** up about it? I didn't read it. I do know just about every single thing said in it though.

Did you turn on espn the last few weeks?

 

I agree with Denney 100%. Jerry and Inoue confronted Incognito and got relief. Even though it's almost impossible to call any NFL player a p***y, Martin fits the bill in a big way.

 

Shut up, snap the ball, get the hell off the field!

 

So wait, not even the union rep is allowed to speak on matters of players without people giving him ****?

 

I am sure everyone on this site have heard stories about the talking and mind games that go on between opposing players on the field, especially at the line of scrimmage. I wonder how this situation will affect that banter between players and especially concerning Martin and what ever team he plays for? I have heard that use of the "N" word is going to be watched for and use of it will cause an unsportsman like conduct penalty.

 

oh can you imagine?

"...unsportsman like conduct. 91 called 62 a mother ****ing ******, said he was gonna **** his siter in the a$$, told him he was his ***** now...15 yards, automatic first down!"

commentator 1: ooo the league office is gonna hit him in the pocketbook Monday...
commentator 2: yea he really hurt his team on that play, gotta be smarter than that!

 

We wanted to bring Martin back? La Canfora...
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...onathan-martin-back-his-agents-rebuffed-offer

 

I don't agree with being this outspoken against something you've never read, regardless of if he lucks into being right about the side he chooses.

Book burnings happened with that mentality.

 

Start looking at longsnappers in the draft? ;)

KIDDING!

Denney is probably most pissed about O'Neill… those two are easily the longest survivors here through four coaches, two owners, three GMs, and 18 QBs.

 

That's not true.

He was in the locker room he knew exactly what went on and what context it was in. He's heard enough from talking heads to know that report completely ignored context.

Why is it that no one believes the guys that witnessed all of this and believes all the talking heads who did nothing more than read a report?

 

What exactly is in dispute about the context? Everyone is pretty much in full agreement.

 

What is the context they are in agreement about exactly?

 

That everyone was joking around.