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Discussion in 'Fantasy Football' started by Fin-Omenal, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    This was a fun thread last year for us dorks.

    League: 10 team league (non ppr) points awarded for return yardage for player.

    QB- Matt Stafford, Jay Cutler

    RB- Steve Jackson, J. Charles, D. Martin, Ryan Williams, C. Benson

    WR- Calvin, Antonio Brown, Danny Amendola, Brandon Lloyd, R. Moss

    TE- Fred Davis, M. Bennett

    K- Dan Bailey

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    Working a potential trade for Ryan Williams for Donald Brown deal...

    My WR's are better than they look because Brown and Amendola are consistent scorers because of the return yardag(EX: Brown was the 8th highest scoring WR last year), Im going to need Charles to be a top 10 RB wich is doable if he stays on the field. Also like Martellus Bennett as a sleeper TE.

    FLAME AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Tone_E

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    Good solid team, but you are a little weak at RB I feel. In a 10 team league, you should have a better No. 1. I take it you used an early 1st on Calvin, and waited late 2nd for Jackson or Charles.

    Antonio Brown will have a breakout season I feel, and I like the Amendola pick as well. I took him middle of the draft in my keeper last year, but then he got injured week 1.
     
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    Yea Danny had over 2,000 all purpose yards in 2010 so I like him alot in this format. As far as RB's go I selected Jackson over a couple other guys because he is one of the few featured backs in the league who still gets the majority of GL carries, and Jeff Fisher has always utilized his RB's well. Charles was a gamble but in the 4th Rd I felt like worth the risk, really hoping Doug Martin is the #1 RB in Tampa this year...if so, I like my backs all of a sudden.
     
  4. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I like your backs and QB's not in love with your wr's though. I think your best bet for a WR is really Brandon Lloyd. I suspect Brown will really struggle without the vertical threat of Mike Wallace across from him. He really benefited from Wallace getting double teams the 2nd half of last year and when Wallace's numbers declined it was Brown who gained the most. If Wallace isnt there its all going to fall on brown. I dont like that. What made Brown one of the most targeted wr's last year was the fact that teams were so scared by Wallace's big play ability. Now its going to mean a lot of forced throws his way and probably a lot of double teams. Amendola is part of a young wr's and Fisher is a pretty conservative coach. Theyre going to see what their younger players can do as well with Quick, Chris Givens, Danario Alexander and Brandon Gibson. Thats a lot of players theyre going to want to see in game action. Im assuming you got him pretty late so I cant beat up the pick but I think you'll be using Lloyd a lot more then Amendola in a non-ppr format.

    Oh and do yourself a favor and keep Ryan Williams. Beanie Wells is still rehabbing, Brown will be part of a committee and Williams is going to be a stud!
     
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  5. Fin-Omenal

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    I dunno Boik, i think Amendola is a fav of Bradford and his slot position is his all by himself. But your right about Fisher being conservative. Its not Josh McDaniels running the show anymore. As far as Brown goes he is a mismatch but not having Wallace could effect him early. I need Wilson or Martin to step in and be my flex guy. I feel like i missed the boat on the run of TEs.
     
  6. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    There are only a few elite TEs, the rest really contribute at a similar pace. Amendola will get the targets, but I think his YPC will be single digit, def. making him better in a PPR league.

    Ryan Williams is someone I am trying to target in my keeper league as well. Hoping he drops a bit.
     
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  7. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    i think you will be fine...your biggest issue imo is WR if I am correct about Amendola and Brown. How many WR's are you starting? If its 2 youre in ok shape...if its 3 id probably try and flip Brown for someone similar like a Stevie Johnson or Dwayne Bowe.

    IMO your best lineup is:
    QB: Stafford
    RB: Jackson
    RB: Charles
    WR: CJ
    WR: Lloyd
    TE: Davis (should be fine, if not Im sure Bennett will have Redzone targets)
    Flex: Ryan Williams (I suspect he wins the job clean...I think Martin will get work as a primary in a time share)

    Its a good team imo. I think you have depth at running back to secure a trade for a WR upgrade if you want. But I know Lloyd is having a good camp too so I dont know that you really have much to worry about. Davis is adequate at TE. As long as he keeps his head out of his butt (not as easy as it sounds for some people) hes a good player.
     
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    I feel like Bennett has a chance to do some good things in NY. They made Jake Ballard look pretty damn good last year, so im hoping he develops as a consistent target.

    Again with the WR's I think your underestimating the points return yardage brings to a players worth, Amendola was a top 10 scorer at WR in my league in 2010 and as mentioned last year Brown finished 8th. I share your concern on the Wallace-Less Steelers but as of now they also lack a run game so I think they will be forced to sling it early on, getting the ball into Browns hands alot like the quick screen play he scored on from 50+ last night.

    Waiting to see how things play out before deciding on who to flex, who to start opposite CJ at WR...Josh McDaniels likes throwing to Brandon Lloyd alot as evidence in Denver and ST Louis..just concerned about how many balls there are to go around. Very glad to have him on my roster though because he has some BOOM potential.

    For the record I didnt execute the Brown/Williams trade so here's to Ryan staying healthy and running the ball Ken Whisenhunt style.
     
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  9. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Amendola also did those things in rare circumstances....the rams were terrible/constantly playing from behind. Amendola was healthy and no one else was, and even if the other players were there they werent really good. Amendola also snuck up on everyone then. There was no TE worth a damn for fantasy purposes..it was just Amendola and Jackson. Plus hes now coming off a serious knee injury so I worry about his ability to separate. I just dont see it but for your teams sake I hope youre right.

    Bennett has some legit talent but he needs a coach to ride him...luckily coughlin can be exceptional at that. Could end up being a nice find though.
     
  10. pocoloco

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    I draft five in a 12 team. In mocks, it is very often Calvin in the first and Stafford in the second.

    After that, you sort of have to look RB.

    I think it is a very good team. Amendola and Ryan Williams are my two premier sleepers. I think each goes over 1000.

    I find Jermaine Greshman is being criminally undervalued, he might be the third best TE. I would trade for him if I didn't have him.
     
  11. Fin-Omenal

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    I really believe the Rams have a shot at that division, sounds crazy I know....but if they stay healthy they are an all around solid football team. Kendall Lanford has wreaked havoc in the preseason games ive watched, Chris Long keeps getting better and Robert Quinn had a good rookie season. JL at MLB, Finnegan #1 CB, Mikell at Saftey?? This team is going to cause alot of their opponents problems.
     
  12. Fin-Omenal

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    Hmmm, I believe he is available on waivers in my league...if so I would let go of Davis before Bennett.
     
  13. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You shouldnt let go of davis for gresham. Gresham has a knee sprain. If u want to upgrade Te package davis with a back to a team that needs a back
     
  14. BuckeyeKing

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    You should pick up Lance Kendricks over Bennett. Bennett had a bad case of the dropsies.
     
  15. Fin-Omenal

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    I like Lance, but Im riding with Martellus.
     
  16. pocoloco

    pocoloco I'm your huckleberry Club Member

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    As tight ends go in late rounds or waiver, I like:

    Gresham, CIN
    Moeki, KC (sp?)
    Pettigrew, DET
    Cook, TEN

    Gresham was having a very good TC, so if that knee is fine, I jump all over that
     
  17. SICK

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    QB: Phillip Rivers
    RB:LeSean McCoy
    RB: Adrian Peterson
    WR: Aj Green
    WR: Marques Colston
    WR: Dwayne Bowe
    TE: Aaron Hernandez
    W/T: Torrey Smith
    W/T/RB: Doug Martin
    W/Rb: Deangelo Williams
    Def: Chicago

    Bench:
    WR Michael Floyd
    WR Alshon Jefferey
    WR Mohammad Sanu
    WR Brandon Lafell
    RB Lamichael James
    RB Chris Rainey
    RB Lamar Miller
    TE Greg Olsen
    QB Matt Shaub

    PPR league
     
  18. Fin-Omenal

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    If Rivers is near the 2010 Rivers your team is awesome.

    Love the WR depth with 2 potential breakout players, lil thin on RB depth and like me your hoping D.Martin plays like he should. Pretty damn good team. Although your K likely won't score u many points this yr.
     
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  19. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I suspect you will be using Schaub as much as Rivers based on matchups.
    - Your RB's are studly...
    - Your flex spot you'll probably be using Sanu and Jeffery more then DeAngelo in a PPR format imo
    - Overall its very strong though your dependence on rookies worries me..Lafell and Rainey should probably be dumped imo for more proven players with a better upside.
     
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  20. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    I do two teams a year. One solo and one with friends (takes place in 15 min).

    My solo team is...

    QB: Cam Newton; Matt Ryan
    WR: Jordy Nelson, Dez Byant, Vincent Jackson, Austin Collie, Randy Moss
    RB: AP, Jamal Charles, Willis McGahee, Shaun Green.
    TE: Tony Gonzo
    DEF: NYG; Buffalo
    K: Nugent

    Thinking of picking of Jennings from Jax. Like most idiots who skip pre-season/training camp, I doubt he'll do anything worthwhile. Green isn't all that great anyway.
     
  21. MikeHoncho

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    QB Luke McCown
    RB Pierre Thomas
    RB Daniel Thomas
    WR Greg Lewis
    WR Randy Moss
    WR Patrick Crayton
    TE Todd Heap
    D/ST New York Jets
    K Nick Folk

    BENCH
    Doesn't matter. We gots dis.
     
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  22. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    I've only drafted one so far this season (except for a public espn league) and it was for a different message board but it was 12 teams and I picked 3rd and was pretty happy with my haul.

    Note: Passing TDs are 4pts

    QB: Matt Schaub, Jay Cutler
    RB: LeSean McCoy, Darren McFadden, Ryan Mathews, Toby Gerhart, Evan Royster
    WR: Percy Harvin, Stevie Johnson, Antonio Brown, Titus Young, Greg Little
    TE: Jimmy Graham
    DST: Bills, Giants
    K: Jason Hanson
     
  23. JDelenne

    JDelenne Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    How the hell did you get McCoy, McFadden, Ryan Mathews, and Jimmy Graham?
    Thats potentially 3 1st round picks or 2 first and 2 second round picks?
     
  24. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You Club Member

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    Injury concerns probably.

    My guess the draft went like this for him:
    1. McCoy
    2. McFadden
    3. Graham
    4. Mathews
    5. Harvin
    6. Johnson
    7. Brown
    8. Schaub
    9. Cutler
     
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  25. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    12 team PPR league.
    passing TD's are 6 points and you get .04 pt.s per passing yard, .1 per rushing or receiving yard.

    My Team:

    Brees
    Freeman
    A. Peterson
    S. Ridley
    K. Smith
    B. Marshall
    Desean Jackson
    Anquan Boldin
    Nate Burleson
    Antonio Gates
    Coby Fleener
    Ravens D/ST
    Raiders D/St
    Robbie Gould

    IR
    Sidney Rice
     
  26. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    Exactly
     
  27. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    Pretty solid.
    My biggest concern would be the durability of your RB unit. Alot of injury concerns there.
     
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    12 team auction leagues. No TE spots the receiver spots are wr/te. Qb, RB, RB, wr/te, wr/te, wr/te, flex

    Cam newton
    Chris Johnson
    Jamal Charles
    Peyton Hillis
    Donald brown
    Kevin smith
    Ryan Williams
    Rashad Jennings
    jimmy graham
    Julio jones
    Titus young
    Austin collie
    Randall Cobb

    Wr depth is iffy but I like to make sure to grab atleast 3/4 studs in auction drafts


    Cam newton
    Chris Johnson
    Adrian Peterson
    Doug Martin
    Kevin smith
    Ryan Williams
    Rashad Jennings
    Hakeem Nicks
    Jeremy maclin
    Demaryious Thomas
    Torrey smith
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  29. Fin-Omenal

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    Team 2 beats team 1 by 20+
     
  30. Ohio Fanatic

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    only thru 9 rounds so far in a slow-live draft. 10 team league, picking 5th.

    Eli Manning
    R Rice, S Jackson, C Benson
    J Nelson, Mike Wallace, R Wayne
    Fred Davis
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  31. Fin-Omenal

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    Dropped Cutler, gambling on Russel Wilson to have a Newton like rookie year.
     
  32. Fin-Omenal

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    Boik, I know Wallace is returning...but Antonio,Brown has showed he is a force with or without him.
     
  33. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You Club Member

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    Had a money league draft on Friday... thoughts?

    QB - C.Newton
    RB - R.Rice, S.Jackson, S.Greene, D.Brown, C.Benson
    WR - J.Nelson, D.Bowe, D.Jackson, N.Washington, R.Meachem, L.Moore
    TE - J.Graham
    K - R.Gould
    DEF - Tennessee (will likely drop for a match-up based week by week D)
     
  34. Boik14

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    Dont like it...cutler was a high end qb2 last year without marshall and Jeffery.
    ok, thats your opinion but the facts will be determined if wallace doesnt show up.

    if its a ppr i dont lkke your wrs after nelson. If its non ppr jackson is gold imo...he hit 1050 in yards in 09+10...last year he would have had 925 had he not missed a game. Now hes happy avain because hes resolved the contract situation he said bothered him last year. If it is ppr lance moore will end up yohr wr2 once you get frustrated with deseans lack of touches and bowe being in such a run heavy offense.

    Not bad on Newton but his schedule is harder then Stafford who probably went 6-10 picks later i would guess.
     
  35. Fin-Omenal

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    He IS showing up this weekend, and it's not an opinion...he has been a BEAST in the preseason.last 2 games? 183 yards receiving 3 TDs. I'd say that's a damn good WR no matter who is on the other side. We've all been wrong before, no need to be emberassed.

    As far as dropping Cutler, meh...Stafford if healthy is a must start vs anyone, Wilson has a huge ceiling and could be trade bait. Our QB FAs are deep anyways.
     
  36. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Dropping Cutler was a mistake. You were better off dropping a 5th WR for Wilson. I agree with you about Brown.
     
  37. Fin-Omenal

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    2 max QB is why bro
     
  38. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Im not embarrassed, I just dont put any stock in preseason as far as fantasy football goes. Teams play vanilla coverages and reveal nothing major from their playbooks. Good or bad, the only thing I look at from preseason is who is healthy.

    As for Cutler, look at what he did early in his career with marshall. He put up legit qb1 numbers. Maybe not brady or Rodgers good but he definitely could have been used in a trade at the very least. Someone with an injury or who doesnt have a high end starter would probably have moved something of value
     
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    The Heat fans are right...ur just a hater
     
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  40. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I am interested in trying to combo Matt Ryan and Julio Jones this week in all my draft....Ryan scares me though....I might go Cutler Marshall too....

    Speaking of which boys, every year I come here and ask and am greatly thankful, anywhere I can get a good Top 2-300?? for both non and PPR leagues?? I dont want to rely on ESPN or anything...
     

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