Soooooo...... all fans suck, is what you're essentially saying, then?

:)

 

they even boo'd a hurt guy cause he dropped the pass... reminded me of Philly

 

How about the lack of class when McGehee was finally carted off.

I would say that out of 60,000, maybe...MAYBE 10,000 actually cheered.

I personally think that McGehee is a piece of human excrement, BUT, the dude was not looking too good for the better part of 10 minutes out on the turf....yet not much sympathy whatsoever when he was finally leaving the turf....

 

Booing is necessary. It can be eye opening for the play callers. If 70,000 dont agree with the way youre calling the game, then maybe you should consider making some adjustments. Its all for the better of the team. Only the fans who care actually boo their team. Dont boo them when the players suck. Boo them when the coaches are sucking.

 

WTF? This ISNT a game show where Regis is going to let the coaching staff make a call to Don Shula or have the fans vote on the next play.

Of course Booing is part of the game and a way for the fans to vent frustration, BUT, Booing should never ever have any bearing on the play-calling coming from the sidelines...that is just plain silly IMO :up:

 

you play to win the game. if your team is playing to lose the game, and the crowd lets you know about it, and you continue to call bad plays, thats on you for ignoring your own mistakes.

 

Is that because 70,000 PlayStation- Madden players know how to call plays better than an NFL Head-Coach?


Just asking......

 

Limas Sweed has been dropping passes all season and had dropped a TD catch which would have put the game out of reach he deserved to be booed. And if he was really hurt then I'm a Pats fan.

Plenty of people cheered for McGahee and I didn't hear any boos the Pittsburgh fans handled it fine.

 

what?

 

Also got a chuckle when the Steelers were on offense in the 4th quarter and the crowd had a loud chant going. "Here we go Steelers, here we go!" (or something to that effect). Big Ben and some others were imploring the crowd to be quiet. :lol:

Every crowd has moments like that. But some get a pass, and some don't.

 

I WISH our fans were as passionate and dedicated as Steelers fans...

I bet going to a steeler game is absolutely electric and amazing (if you felt the same way about the steelers as you do the dolphins)


edit: let me add many of us are passionate, but you can't deny Steeler Nation's dedication to traveling with the team and bringing it to heinz field for every game is what I'm saying.

 

They were booing because of a few crappy calls that went the Ravens way.

They were cheering for him as he showed signs of movement.

 

Jets fans are the worst, hands down. During the first game of the 2007 season, Chad Pennington suffered an ankle injury and had to be helped off the field and what did the home crowd do? They cheered an injury to their own starting QB!? Mind you, Chad led the Jets to the playoffs in 2006. Jets fans suck.

 

Steelers fans were booing the officials and Limas Sweed, not the team

 

Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it sounds like you're using this example as a rationalization for booing your team.

In other words, if anything Steeler fans should be getting ripped for doing, as opposed to Dolphins fans getting absolved just because the Steeler fans are equally inane.

Just my take...I'm sure some folks will disagree.

P.S. I only remember to booings; one was for Limas Sweed because he dropped an easy catch and then rolled around on the ground as if he was hurt (hurt ego) and the other was because of a bad call.

 

1. You're supposed to cheer an injured guy when he leaves the field. I've been to tons of games where that happens. It was good sportsmanship.

2. McGahee is not a piece of human excriment. He's keeping it real!:tongue2:

 

So you believe one group's bad behavior absolves another group's bad behavior? I could see this as an argument that Miami fans are no worse than other team's fans but it has no bearing on whether or not our fan base has deserved being ripped.

 

As for the booing IMO it is classless for anything but lack of effort or lack of sportsmanship. And any play caller (OC, DC or HC) that changed his play calling b/c the fans were booing should give up the job or have it taken away from him.

 

I for one didn't see anything in that game that made me think less of Steeler fans.

 

Week 1 when Tom Brady went down, a lot of people on HERE were cheering that. Double standard here?? also, somethimes your team needs to get booed. Are you going to cheer your team when they are playing like crap?

 

The national media makes a big deal of this all the time. If Steeler fans, or Giants fans, or Cowboys fans boo.....they are savy and good smart fans. If DolFans do it, they are idiots that don't know their bagel hole from their a-hole.

:tantrum: :tantrum: :tantrum:

IT DRIVES ME NUTZ !

:tantrum: :tantrum: :tantrum:

 

It would only be a double standard if the people who were cheering Brady's injury were the same people criticized another team's fan for cheering an opponent's serious injury. There are several people here who never cheer when an opponent is seriously injured.

 

Your right. Their fans are turds too.:yes:

J/k bro. more to come on this

 

At least the Steelers had fans in the seats, Miami fans either don't show up or dress like empty seats for the games. :wink2:

 

I've seen people here cheer for Zach's hit on Coles or Brady getting injured and then get upset at other players for being "dirty".

 

Yep, well most fan's are two faced fanatics.

The worst i think when it comes to this kind of crazyed acting/thinking our Red Sox and Yankee fans IMHO

 

Did anybody hear the crowd at the AZ game? That place was going apenuts...

 

As a coach, there is so much I'd like to say here, but I'll try to keep it short.

First, Booing is not necessary. It is the exact opposite of the defination of fanatic, which is part of the morphology of where the word "fan" comes from.

fa·nat·ic (f-ntk)
n.
A person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause.
adj.
Fanatical.
Noun
1. a person whose enthusiasm for something, esp. a political or religious cause, is extreme
2. Informal a person devoted to a particular hobby or pastime
Adjective
also fanatical
excessively enthusiastic [Latin fanaticus belonging to a temple, hence, inspired by a god, frenzied]
fanatically adv
fanaticism n


Second, you say "if 70,000 people don't agree with how you are calling the game, then you better consider making adjustments". I really enjoy this one. Us coaches laugh about this one all the time at work or at the clinics. 70,000 may be a tad overkill in your projection of how many people heckle and yell at coaches and still consider themselves fans. A person at a game yelling at the coaches or the calls is no different from the same person standing up yelling about how to pronounce words in chinese. They have no formal training in either. Yes, they may have heard someone speak chinese at some point in their life, but theor root knowlegde is poor and often times the comments opinionated are ignorant and baseless in fact.

Booing the coaches - Just how is it that you know the coach is at fault? How is it that you know the play wasnt a perfect call for that situation? Is it because the play failed or appeared to be a horrible call? Do you really know that opponents tendencies in that situation? Do you really know all the factors that may have gone into that call? Things like - what worked well in practice that week, or what film has shown hurts them in those situations in previous games? I could go on and on, but I think you get the idea. Guys that call games at this level have learned alot about their craft in most cases and have a thorough process for scouting opponents.

Of course, it may have in fact been a bad call, it happens... but more often than not there's some sound reason behind what you see as madness on a coaches call. An injury that you don't know about, a poor performance in practice or meetings may not give coaches confidence to make a certain call, etc. Sometimes things behind the scenes limit what call can be made. Sometimes the actual call isn't even a first, second, or even third choice for that situation.
There are so many factors that go into this that I really find it amazing that you think it's that simple. Good result - cheer. Bad result - blame. For any OC or DC worth their salt alot of research, practice, and thought goes into how a game is called. On just a typical scouting weekend at the highschool level, we spend all weekend scouting our opponent and working on our gameplan. These pro coaches spend all week doing the same. When you and I go to work ,the pro's go to scout football and teach football. It's all they do! I go to 3-4 clinics a year and hear these guys speak about planning, organization, etc. It's amazing to learn how they break things down, and how they come to the conclusions they do based on stats, tendecies, and key players on both teams.
I'm always impressed with the amount of time they put into their craft. I've learned to have alot of respect for what they do and understand more than the average bear about what all goes into making a play successful or not. The call itself is only one part of that puzzle.

The next time you "Boo them" thinking its because the coaches suck, you may want to consider that you may not have all the answers. It may be our players fault. It may be our coaches fault. It may be our opponent calling a great game, or players playing a great game and just limiting us through lights out play. Booing our team though isn't the behavior of a fan by definition. Many of the fans that boo have no idea what the factors are that go into play calling on either side of the ball. It's a chess match and more. It's a battle of wills on the field by the soldiers to make the plan happen. Sometimes a brilliant plan can be defeated by great players.

Anyhow, I understand your frustration when things aren't going well. :tantrum: Sometimes I see some of what's going on with the X's and O's and don't like something I've seen and ask myself what the heck are we doing? That doesnt seem like how I'd have handled that situation, etc. But again, knowing what I've learned over the last 25 years as a Cordinator there's always factors that go into success and failure that we don't have the answers to as outside entities to the game. Many times there is more going on than what we can see. Booing just makes us look unsupportive and at times ignorant. I think the same is true when a player drops a wide open pass on a pefect call for a TD. Booing him is what front runners do. A fan supports his team and keeps the negative to a minimum best he / she can. Otherwise the fanbase becomes part of the problem and a hurdle to winning. Fans don't do that. In fact, I'll agrue by definition that any real fan would never engage in any behavior that would in any way hurt his teams chances to be successful.

A negavtive fans base can hurt a team in many ways. Some of the ways that jump out to me are that it can effect game play by players, cause Free Agents not to ant to play in that city, cause coaches not to want to coach in that city, etc. I'm sure a great fanbase can have a very solid impact on all of those same areas in a good way. Why engage in negative behavior when the odds are very high in most cases you may not even know what the real problem is?

Anyhow, Dolfan Brotha, I have said my peace from the coaches stand point. There's no doubting the fact that alot of our culture agrees with you on this and not me, sometimes even my close friends tell me I'm a dinosaur on this type of stuff! But I think life's too short to dwell on the negative, and I always believe and hope for the best in the Miami Dolphins! Let the Jets fans and the rest boo their teams.

The Miami Dolphins are the greatest franchise in Pro Sports and we are lucky to have a part in the history, tradition and fan-dom of this team. :knucks:

 

Exactly. It's a very arrogant behavior and it shows no respect for the profession.

 

I'll cheer a good hit but not dirty play nor will I cheer an opponent getting seriously injured. IMO anybody who does is being classless regardless of what team they root for.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I pay dearly (at least for me) to go to a game, I'll damn well boo if I choose to....and if folks don't like that, fine...but that's one of the reasons I pay to go see a game...don't get me wrong, I don't infringe on anyone else's rights or privileges at the game, I don't drink and my language is...well...controlled...not perfect but controlled...

On the other hand, even last year, I didn't boo as much as all that...

 

I agree, but Jets fans saw that hit as dirty. They said Zach was leading with his helmet and many of us argued that while their helmets did make contact, that Zach didn't do it intentionally. Another way to look at it is noone gets upset if we win in a blowout, but plenty of people get upset when other teams beat us in that fashion, they say that the other team was classless for running up the score.

Perception is a funny thing, especially for sports fans who can't look beyond their team colored glasses. :wink2:

 

I hear ya. That's why I made sure to offer up the fact that I might be taking it the wrong way. Thanks for clarifying.

P.S. There are dumb fans all over the world. They don't just live in Miami.

 

IMO intent matters so a player with a rep as a good guy will get more of a benefit of the doubt than one with a rep as dirty. And people will give their own players the benefit of the doubt as well. But that's different than having a double standard where you criticize one group for something but think it's okay for another to do.

I personally don't see running up the score as a classless thing. In fact, I would probably be more personally insulted if someone took it easy on me. I think the running up the score is an insult thing is a singularly American concept. I was born here but was fortunate enough to spend much time abroad during my formative years and my opinion on this issue seems to mirror the more common global view. I'm not claiming one view is superior but rather that there is more than one view.

 

Every team has their fans who use double standards, some of the Pats fans have made excuses, overlooked and sometimes denied that Harrison is a dirty player, but were upset with the hit on Brady. Even though we would like to think otherwise, we have some of them as well. The views of a few shouldn't reflect on us as a whole, but there are some of those voices out there. I can link you to another board full of 'em if you like. :wink2: :pointlol:

I don't see running up the score as a big deal either, if you're not good enough to stop a team, then you deserve to look at the lopsided scoreboard at the end of the game. I guess there are some circumstances where it would get on my nerves, if a team is up 30 with 5 seconds left and they take a shot at the endzone that would be a little on the dickish side. But again, if you can't stop it you shouldn't bellyache about it. That's a thin line there IMO.

 

You know what really pisses me off too... About Philly fans (Philly would be my second fav team-Im from SU so I have some comaradary with DNabb).. The fact they crap on McNabb.. My bro in law is a Philly fan and he blames ALL the teams woes on McNabb.. These fans are clueless.. All I say is, "you a-holes should be so lucky, try having the dolphins QB woes for 10 years.. We've had 13 different starting QB's in 10 years and each of them, for all intensive purposes were crap". Wait till he get released or traded and Kolb takes over... You dont know what you have till its gone