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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Dec 24, 2021.
Can Grier make it count?
It can also easily be increased to over 100m by cutting some fringe veterans, with minimal dead money to boot.
Grier better make it count. We cannot afford to sit on the sidelines again.
NO- don't cut any more veterans! Sign Gisecki. Grab a few veteran linemen. Get a stud pass rusher. Get a shiny new RB. Build on what we have and don't mess with the chemistry of what's already working.
My draft needs- RB, DE, OT, C, LB (if there's a true stud LB for R1)
Don't be cute- draft for value like we always have, but aim for a day-one starter in R1 (hopefully RB or C).
Here's what I mean:
Jesse Davis: 3.6m savings, 1m dead money
Allen Hurns: 3.2m savings, 0.43m dead money
Cethan Carter: 2.8m savings, zero dead money
Clayton Fejedelem: 2.8m savings, zero dead money
Greg Little: 1.5m savings, zero dead money
And then potentially, depending on Gesicki and Smythe
Adam Shaheen: 1.9m savings, 0.3m dead money
Do you really need to keep those guys around at those prices, or can they be replaced by cheaper and younger guys?
Going cheaper and younger seems to have been the blueprint for last off season and the falloff in experience and veteran leadership may have had a lot to do with our slow start at the beginning of the season.
Well, the thing is that the Dolphins now have very few veteran starters under contract next year with a big cap number. Hence the huge amount of cap space. So there really aren't any guys like that left to cut anyways, given that the big dollar guys that we do have come with massive amounts of dead money attached if we were to move on.
I think Grier plans to throw all that money at Fuller, to get him to play ONE game in 2022, so what is left to talk about?
I totally agree with Armstead being target #1A also. He's a great player at a position of huge need, and would make an immense difference on the team.
I also completely agree with Chris Godwin being target 1B. Its like Schad got my opinion before he wrote the article, lol. With all of the other guys who have signed long term extensions in the past year (Mark Andrews, Nick Chubb, ect), Godwin remain the clear and away best position player on the market. We could team him with Waddle and Parker for a potentially elite trio for a few seasons.
DJ Chark would be a fallback option for me at WR. I don't think we'd sign them both, or need to. Same with Juju.
And I agree that if Geskicki isn't realistic about his value and wants to break the bank, then Njoku could be a replacement at TE.
I don't understand how or why cornerbacks are on the list. We have more invested in that position than any other team in the league already, and so many other holes.
I'd personally keep Davis- didn't realize we were that thin on veterans. There's no game-changers in that group.
Wouldn't disagree with either of those, but I'm a little leery of the injuries to Godwin and Chark at the position.
I would prioritize a LT - we need at least average LT play next year. Armstead is the obvious prize and big name (though he has also battled injury a bit), but I'd also look at Eric Fisher who has done a nice job recovering from his own injury late last year in Indy. Lock down the position in FA because I don't think we will draft early enough to go after Neal or Cross or a top draft guy. We can (and should) target an elite G/C in the draft with our #1 though. Also need to get serious about RB unless they really finish the year impressed by our newer additions. Still, would love to see a Walker or Charbonnet taken in round 2.
I flat out wouldn't pay top dollar for Gesicki. The 4/44 deal I would be fine with, but if he wants Andrews or Kittle money I'm out. We need to lock down Ogbah. He's been a great find and a valuable asset.
I'm not going to let Godwins injury scare me away. He turns 26 in February. If he has a slow start in 2022, that's a small price to pay for potentially elite play over the next five or six seasons.
For me, I think you pay Gesicki and Ogbah. Then go after Armstead or the best available LT.
I don’t know about you guys but I’d be happy with:
Spend some draft capital on a RB, CB to try and replace Jones, LB or G. Feels like IF we make a couple of good moves this off-season, we should be a legitimate playoff deep run contender.
I'd like to have both Gesicki and Ogbah back, but not at top of the market pricing. If they want that, then let them test the market. They aren't worth it.
One thing that I would really consider doing is finding a way to part with Parker (trade/release), and giving his money to Gesicki. I have always liked Parker, and when he is healthy, he is pretty solid. I just think that we are nearing the end of the chapter, and it may be better to be a little early as opposed to a little late on this one.
By investing in Gesicki, we are essentially ensuring that we are shifting our cap allocation from older players to younger players. I worry that the Gesicki situation could play out eerily similar to the Landry situation. I really do think that Landry should still be a Dolphin to this day had we made a deal with one year remaining on his contract.
Situationally, it would have made a lot of sense for Landry at the time and Gesicki earlier in the season. Both players were second round picks. In the terms of NFL money, neither one of them have made a lot of money heading into the final year of their contract. Signing a second deal would ensure them a lifetime of financial stability, and it provides them security in case of a serious injury. In both cases, taking less to get the deal done is actually savvy financial advice.
Gesicki's situation has drastically changed from the beginning of the season. At this point, he just has to get through the rest of the season, and one way or another, he will be set for life. He will either:
A- Get franchised and make more money in one season than he has made in his entire NFL career.
B- Sign a long term deal in Miami
C- Sign a long term deal elsewhere
Gesicki consistently makes catches that probably shouldn't be caught, and Tua seems to like throwing his way. I think the best move is to give him Parker's money, and add another big time target either via the draft of free agency.
Screw that. I absolutely want Parker back more than I do Gesicki.
I hope we can keep Parker, Gesiki and Ogbah all for the right price though. Gesiki and Ogbah are not worth top dollar if I had to choose between them I‘d pick Ogbah. Gesiki is a nice piece but he’s no real TE. Really hope all 3 stay here for the right price, oh and that the Watson thing is finally of the table.
Why would we lose Parker? He is signed through 2023, and after next year's cap hit of 12 million it goes down to 9 million.
If he doesn't hold out, I don't see Miami doing anything with his contract.
Don’t want to cut him and invest his money into other players, like some here suggested.
Awww, I agree with you.
I'm pretty sure that's referring to him being injured right now. Not his contract next season.
As far as personnel are concerned, I know we're going to have to tweak the defense due to the whole financial aspect of the game. I get that and I hate it however, our defense is so elite, I don't see focusing on defense in the off-season as a priority. Maintain it yes, but it's not the major concern.
On offense, THAT'S where all priorities need to be focused and the two areas that need addressing at the offensive line and running back. This organization has had only ***TWO*** hits on the offensive line since 2008; Jake Long and Laremy Tunsil. Fourteen drafts and only 2 great players. That's just not going to cut it. I've said it before and I'll say it again...get an elite offensive line coach and get that line.
Secondly, for the love of God, ***GET THE STUD RUNNING BACK***. Go find what we had in Ricky Williams. Go find that Derrick Henry...Jerome Bettis...Barry Sanders...someone you can hand the ball off to 20-25 times a game and gain 100+ yards a game.
We have the opportunity this off season to shore up areas where we're lacking to go with the young players we've drafted for the long haul to make this team competitive for the next decade.