Trade him. And Devlin would be a fine second string.

 

Spend that money on the OL. I like Matt Moore, but I'd rather have a running game than a decent backup QB.

 

This is so far down my list of concerns at this point.

I mean, we have a sociopath using a mentally-handicapped guy's checkbook to stock the larder for a guy who flatlined years ago.

It's almost irrelevant what happens with Matt Moore.

 

I am fine with Devlin

 

If we don't fix the line or if Ireland keeps up with his master plan, unfortunately we may need Matt Moore.

 

You people are nuts if you trust Devlin with the backup job, dude was not only terrible in training camp...he was unwatchable.

 

Devlin won't be our backup... we're drafting a back up in a deep QB draft... How can anyone be okay with just Tannehill, the guy needs competition.... And what if Tannehill gets his knees blown out, you're fine with Devlin? Hell no...

 

Keep him, trade Tannehill :shifty:

 

He will renegotiate that deal and get it to around $2 million. Either that or he has to move his family elsewhere, for the same money and the same job description.

Devlin is not a back up. I like the concept of having a young quarterback as the third guy to groom to eventually be a competent back up. Those guys only get so much time. Draft another one this year, have him beat Devlin for the gig.

 

Obviously you didn't watch, as he was the best of the three in the preseason games (two years in a row). He was the only QB to consistently move the ball, had the highest QBR, completion %, and drives into the redzone. You mean you trust Matt Moore? He had his chance to save our season in the last game after our trusted starting QB couldn't do it and...

 

Get rid of him. That's way too much cash for a backup IMO. Not sure I'd trust Devlin as the backup. I'd maybe bring in another cheap backup from somewhere else to replace Moore and then see how it goes with Devlin.

 

A QB needs competition when he is too comfortable being the starter and just going through the motions to get better. Mark Sanchez needed competition. Whether you think Tannehill is the guy or not, he has shown that he takes the position seriously and by all accounts works hard at improving. Tannehill doesn't need competition to motivate him and the team has too many other holes to waste a significant pick on a QB.

 

Actually yes I'm fine with Devlin. I've maintained his entire time here that he will be borderline starter/great backup material in the NFL. Loved his colleve tape.

 

I'm fine with Devlin and drafting another QB.

 

I mean I look at it and say ya...that's an easy 5.5m to save. I have zero faith in Ireland to find an OL that's suitable. I have zero faith in the coaching staff to put that line in a position to play well, coach them up. I habe zero faith in them to improve, coach up Tannehill's pocket presence.

Thinking of those factors, I think it's a must to have a backup of the quality of Moore because Tannehill won't get through anotjer season of this..

 

Delvin and then draft another QB later in the draft to compete with Delvin.

 

thats just more money that needs to go to o line. yes, drop him.

 

I'd look at Jason Campbell or maybe Brian Hoyer. I doubt Cleveland keeps both after the draft.

 

I don't see Moore as a good fit and don't see anyway to justify his return at that salary.

 

Too many cooks spoil the broth.

 

Slauson has already resigned with Chicago,

 

Yes, in the draft.

 

Brian Hoyer would rip the starting job right out of Ryan Tannehills heart....Ok...maybe not that easy but bringing in Hoyer would mean major major competition for Ryan Tannehill. I Love what I saw out of Hoyer in the games he played this year. Guy just gets it man...Ultra quick release, smart, and can lead. I'd love it if we signed him to push Tannehill.

 

I don't think we need to keep Matt Moore at this point. His price is too high in my opinion and that money can be spent elsewhere. No reason to pay a backup that kind of money when we aren't a fully complete team everywhere else. If we were a stacked football team and wanted surefire insurance in case of a Tannehill injury (Dallas Cowboys) I'd be all about keeping him. The job can go to Devlin, and we can look into signing a guy for a reasonable price.

 

I wonder if Moore would restructure. He should know by this point he isn't a starter.

 

What about Pat Devlin?

I thought the Phins were pretty high on him...

 

I'd do the honorable thing and cut him early and let him explore his options. Give him a number that Miami is willing to spend. If he can beat it, good for him. If not, come back at a better, more reasonable price. I have to imagine that his contract was structured the way that it is for that reason.

 

What criteria to you use to judge if Devlin has improved? He never plays.

 

Details matter. Matt Moore's CAP NUMBER is $5.5 million but he's only set to be paid $4 million. That's all Miami would save by cutting him.

Not that it matters that much (the $4 million saved is much more important), but there would only be $2.5 million of cap relief in 2014 if they cut him, depending on when they do it.

 

Overthecap.com has the savings at $4 million because of his $1.5 million of dead money. Do you have a different source?

 

He was given a $3 million signing bonus and his $5 million of salary was split into $1 million in 2013 and $4 million in 2014. If you check the details of the overthecap numbers and/or the spotrac numbers I'm sure they're there.

 

Preseason I guess. His arm strength has imptoved, and watching him in college I rarely saw him NOT hit the receiver right in the hands, in stride.

I have confidence in him. I won't be angry if we draft another project QB as well but I believe in Devlin as a backup.

 

So wouldn't that equal a cap hit of $2.5 million and $5.5 million? Since $1.5 million is bonus his second year, cutting him saves $4 million? Which is what the overthecap numbers suggest.

 

I think this is correct.

 

Uh Mark Sanchez has had a better career so far than Tannehill, fact. And that's not even saying much.

 

Oh yeah, may I also mention the fact that we've picked up these gem's with our other draft picks under Ireland, who is coming back next year:

Egnew
Kaddu
Cunningham
Randall
Daniel Thomas
Clyde
Kearse
AJ Edds
McCoy
Pat White
Patrick Turner
Nalbone
See entire 2013 draft.
And much more.

Pretty sure none of them filled any "holes" and some on that list are second round picks. We can afford to use a 3rd/4th round pick on a deep quarterback draft.

 

No you restructure his contract. Moore is as solid of a backup as is available and could possibly start on a lot of teams. We need to keep him in case Tanne goes down. It is a season saving insurance plan, messing with it is silly.