The other rounds of the draft? Specifically a high 2nd round pick. I may be wrong here, but if a bunch of teams finish with identical records don't they change positions in other rounds? For example if the first round goes something like this.....
Rams
Chiefs
Eagles
Dolphins
Wouldnt the 2nd round look like this:
Dolphins
Eagles
Chiefs
Rams
If they have the same record the end the season?
Regardless, I know everyone is caught up on the quarterback. Barkley, RGIII, Jones, Weeden etc....
But let's talk about the 2nd round pick. If we finish 6-10, or 5-11......where do you see us going in the high 2nd round if we take QB in the first? What would you like personally? and What do you predict happens?
I know there is a ton of time to go, combines, draft stock, juniors declaring etc.....but with all the talk about the QB and the 1st round pick, I want to gauge some of your interests in the later rounds.
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Safety or pass-rusher come to my mind right away, but as far as specific players I really don't know. I haven't been following it that close, honestly.
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I am completely done with 2nd round QBs...
Go big or go home. Grab the best available QB prospect... and thats going to be in round 1.dolfan7171, texanphinatic, GARDENHEAD and 2 others like this. -
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Secure the best QB we can in the 1st round by trading up or whatever they need to do. Moore has shown he can be the caretaker while the young guy gets ready. After that, Safety help, a Right tackle and another TE.
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I can actually see another “meat and potatoes” draft, as Soliai, Langford, and Carey are free agents and Colombo won’t be back.
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I said this with all the QB threads, but it applies here too...Let's figure out who will be calling the shots before we jump to who we might take. For example, if a 4/3 HC comes in here, that could change our needs in the draft significantly. Who will be our FAs that we pick up by draft time, that will certainly affect who we take. I am certain that the guy that Cowher wants will be different than the guy Jon Gruden wants or the guy Jay Gruden wants or Andy Reid or Jeff Fisher or Pete Carmichael or Tony Sparano or whoever the HC and GM are... -
Sick, the order in your example would have Miami move up one spot in the 2nd round, not all the way to the top of the group of teams with the same record. Just a small correction before Stitches beats me to it :wink2:
As for the 2nd round pick, I'm going to say we won't have a 2nd round pick since we'll be using it to trade up and get the qb we want in the first round. :yes:Dolfan984 likes this. -
I say we draft a QB in every single round this coming draft. We are bound to hit on one of them and then people can stop talking about how we ignore the position.
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If I select a quarterback early, I am absolutely, positively looking for a stud tackle as soon as possible. There's the line of thinking that you can get a good RT in the late rounds or in FA, but I don't think it's valid anymore, and NFL teams have caught up with this development. Green Bay drafted a right tackle in the first round. New England drafted a right tackle in the first round. San Francisco drafted a right tackle in the first round. Dallas drafted a right tackle in the first round. Indianapolis followed the Anthony Costanzo selection with a RT. They certainly didn't do it because there are so many RTs waiting to be had late in the draft. They did it because RT, quite frankly, has become a premium position in the NFL. Teams (and we aren't talking the likes of Oakland or Cincinnati, either) are actively looking for top notch talent at the position. When you're looking at the big gaping hole that's the right side of our offensive line, RT absolutely becomes a priority, not just in terms of needs, but in terms of need and position value.
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Ideally a FS , edge rusher , RT , but get the best player fit wise and value wise.ToddsPhins and SICK like this. -
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Dwight Jones is a guy I would love to look at in the 2nd round. At some point we have to start asking how long we really imagine this marriage between Miami and Brandon Marshall lasting, given his constant erratic behavior. Just this year he got in Vontae Davis' face about partying the night before a big practice, which is fine, except he threw a football right into Vontae's face and that's not fine. Then there's the cab incident. Whether he's identified his problem or not, he still feels like a ticking bomb and Dwight Jones has been a guy that's had me drooling since I started scouting T.J. Yates a year ago. He has the potential to be a dominant player. He already is one. As much as I love Justin Blackmon, I think the difference between Dwight Jones and Justin Blackmon is smaller than people think.
I think if you can get hold of Levy Adcock, Zebrie Sanders or Andrew Datko, you have to take a look at that. I haven't caught up fully with the OT position yet but those three guys have stood out.
Depending on what defense we're playing next year, I like Cam Johnson of UVA. He has a lot of potential to be productive in the pros. Explosive player that uses his hands, keeps working to get free, very strong player, ideal build like a giant linebacker. He won't play linebacker but if we're moving to a more static 4-3 front then you need to add a guy like him.
I'm not sure if Luke Kuechly or Manti Te'o will last into the 2nd round but if they do, and if Miami is moving to a static 4-3 front, then I would grab one of them. They might even shoot to the top of the list. I think Karlos Dansby and Kevin Burnett would make natural Sam and Will backers, but a guy like Luke Kuechly with his instincts could help the defense be truly elite. Te'o doesn't track the ball that well but his athleticism and size are a scary combination because he's not at all a straight line athlete. He can sit and explode like a tailback. Even if he overruns a play, he can recover. That's how Brian Urlacher was when he was young. But you look at all the tackles Te'o racks up and you can see that his gifts do make him very valuable to a defense.
If Mike Nolan returns and our aim is to keep the defense the same, and therefore we're re-signing Paul Soliai, etc...then I think you need to focus on the secondary and on finding a pass rusher. The safeties need work. Markelle Martin would be an excellent 2nd round pick. About as solid a 2nd round pick as you could get. But if you have it in mind that you want to move Sean Smith over to free safety, then maybe you want to take a look at Janoris Jenkins or Chase Minnifield. -
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TE is absolutely not a priority in the first 3 maybe even 4 rounds IMO. QB, S, LB, and maybe a T or WR. I absolutely agree though, that the focus needs to be on game changers, on either side of the ball. With that said, a true gamechanging receiving TE wouldnt upset me if taken in the first 4 rounds, but I dont think it outweighs the need for another pass rusher or ballhawker.
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I would add a third Tight End to the mix but I would more concentrate on trying to find a diamond in the rough type, like Josh Chichester. Really love how Charles Clay has come along, and how he's being used.
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Dwayne Allen..Tank Carder...Kendall Wright..3 different ways to attack the top of the 2nd round...all 3 I can see going in the first round, so it will be tough, and may have to use a little ammo to get one, but if we don't move up in the first, I wouldn't mind moving up if need be to aquire one of those three.
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I really don't see Wright making it out of round 1.
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Playmakers..playmakers..playmakers
We need to up team speed and playmaking ability virtually regardless of position.SICK, ToddsPhins and shula_guy like this. -
Dwyane Allen. Fasano is slower than molasses and probably borderline ******ed.
I like Charles Clay, I really do, but Dwyane Allen will be an elite TE, and isnt a TE a rookie QBs BFF?
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I really like the prospect of Allen/Clay better than Fasano/Clay,
Use Allen as a pure TE and have Clay as our H-back.ToddsPhins likes this. -
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