Quinn's future tied to..Jake Delhomme?
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By all appearances, "what else" primarily means "sign Jake Delhomme."
"Delhomme is still an ongoing discussion," Holmgren said. "He still is on radar. But I did tell this to Jake: while you're debating what you want to do, I've got to keep going. We're not just sitting on our hands waiting for something to happen. I don't want to be left standing at the altar."
Though Holmgren said that Delhomme would not be promised the starting job, it's obvious that he's got a better chance of winning it with the Browns than with the Saints.
"I think if we're competing with New Orleans, I think it's safe to say he will not be the starter in New Orleans," Holmgren said. "I think he certainly has the potential to be the starter here."
So it sounds as if Quinn will be moved if Delhomme chooses to take his turnover show to Cleveland.
Maybe Seneca Wallace really is the best option.
Now I've not been a fan of B Quinn, not really, he reminds me alot of ex Bears/Steelers Qb Mike Tomczak, but if he is shuffled out of Cleveland for Jake Delhomme for pete's sakes then the Dolphins were lucky to snag Ted Ginn..
Quinn will never have the accuracy that Holmgren's offense requires, he is more of a Grinder than a WCO Qb he could fit in a place like Carolina, maybe SF, but still he would only garner maybe a conditional 4th rd pick.
browns blew the pick
you move back into #22
they got owned
quinn has no value
:lol:

"Killerphins wrote:
browns blew the pick
you move back into #22
they got owned
quinn has no value
:lol:
Hmm, I think he does, objectively, Quinn would be a good #2 Qb to develop, he has played on some dreadful Browns teams, and has rarely played, a team like Carolina could use him with M Moore as the Qb.
AZ as well.
"padre31 wrote:
Hmm, I think he does, objectively, Quinn would be a good #2 Qb to develop, he has played on some dreadful Browns teams, and has rarely played, a team like Carolina could use him with M Moore as the Qb.
AZ as well.
you think brady quinn can play pod?
ND QB's usually arent real good.
i think he has no value
think they have any luck moving him?

"Killerphins wrote:
you think brady quinn can play pod?
ND QB's usually arent real good.
i think he has no value
think they have any luck moving him?
Yeah, Quinn can play a bit, he will never be a 65% completion rate passer, but he could couple a decent arm with toughness and athleticism and carve out a role for himself in the NFL, same as Tomczak.
And they can move him, young Qb's are the crack of the NFL, GM's go stupid when they have a shot at acquiring one.
"padre31 wrote:
Yeah, Quinn can play a bit, he will never be a 65% completion rate passer, but he could couple a decent arm with toughness and athleticism and carve out a role for himself in the NFL, same as Tomczak.
And they can move him, young Qb's are the crack of the NFL, GM's go stupid when they have a shot at acquiring one.
While you might be right but he reminds me of another Rex Grossman type and in this pass happy league he is what he is. Lordy padre, my home boy John Beck has as good or a better chance to make it in this league, if given a chance imvho.

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Why on earth would anyone want Delhomme to start? Is the goal to be picking in the top 5 for sure next offseason for Cleveland? If so Jake is the man. I'd rather have the guy they cut this week starting for my team than Delhomme. Delhomme is a turnover machine, that is exactly what you don't want with a young team. I'd rather have a guy that throws a lower percentage but doesn't turn the ball over much than Delhomme.
"gafinfan wrote:
While you might be right but he reminds me of another Rex Grossman type and in this pass happy league he is what he is. Lordy padre, my home boy John Beck has as good or a better chance to make it in this league, if given a chance imvho.
Beck is on clipboard duty for a long tme Ga, Flacco is not going anywhere.
I watched the Brownies last yr after Roth was signed, and the one thing in Quinn's favor is...he didn't lack composure, he would throw up some ducks, and the Oline was a Sieve, but Quinn did keep his head up and looked downfield for a receiver.
He's a good competitor with a decent arm, heck a place NOLA were he could learn the art of the Qb would be a great help to him and give the Saints a #2 with some upside and eventual trade value.
"Fin-Omenal wrote:
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Man, first Carolina cuts Delhomme, and he walks away with what...$12 mil? And, that's on top of whatever he got as a signing bonus when they extended him last year. Now, Cleveland comes calling offering him what...$30 mil? And, a chance to start? OMG...he's Jake freakin' Del-homie. A 35 year-old back up caliber QB. UFB.
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"The G Man wrote:
Man, first Carolina cuts Delhomme, and he walks away with what...$12 mil? And, that's on top of whatever he got as a signing bonus when they extended him last year. Now, Cleveland comes calling offering him what...$30 mil? And, a chance to start? OMG...he's Jake freakin' Del-homie. A 35 year-old back up caliber QB. UFB.
Adam_Schefter Filed to ESPN: Cleveland landed its second QB of
the week, this time Jake Delhomme. Browns and Delhomme agree to a two-year deal.
He more than likely will have a shot at starting, meaning Quinn may be leaving the Brownies .
mortreport Sean Payton already had Brees but after spending 2 hours
on flight with Quinn, Payton said, "I love that kid. Football's important to him."
2 minutes ago via webmortreport Ah, the Browns. Somebody can get a bargain in Brady
Quinn. Look at his tape in '08 before he hurt his hand. Has every intangible, too.
I'd thought the Saints would be a good landing spot for Quinn, Peyton is the current Qb Guru, Quinn does have tools as Mort mentions, the problem is the Saints offense requires great accuracy and the Qb and Wr being on the same page and making the same reads, two things Quinn has not been known for in Cleveland.
"padre31 wrote:
I'd thought the Saints would be a good landing spot for Quinn, Peyton is the current Qb Guru, Quinn does have tools as Mort mentions, the problem is the Saints offense requires great accuracy and the Qb and Wr being on the same page and making the same reads, two things Quinn has not been known for in Cleveland.
As long as he stays FAR away from Miami Im more than happy.:up:

Delhomme, released last week by the Carolina Panthers, has agreed to terms on a two-year deal with the Browns, whose quarterback position has been nothing short of a merry-go-round of players since the club returned as an expansion team 11 years ago.
For those wondering about Brady Quinn's future in Cleveland, consider: Browns paying Jake Delhomme starter money -- $7 million this season.
Wow...for Delhomme? Are the Browns angling for the #1 overall pick in 2011?
I have watched every Browns game since that draft and Quinn's problem is he NEVER goes downfield. Ever. He makes Chad Pennington look like Rex Grossman.
Yes, the Browns have been bad, but that doesn't mean every throw had to be in the flats to a back. He had no guts to go downfield and let his WR make a play.
If you aren't going to have accuracy, you need to be a gun slinger and take some chances. Lack of accuracy and only throwing short routes won't get your very far.
"PhiNomina wrote:
I have watched every Browns game since that draft and Quinn's problem is he NEVER goes downfield. Ever. He makes Chad Pennington look like Rex Grossman.
Yes, the Browns have been bad, but that doesn't mean every throw had to be in the flats to a back. He had no guts to go downfield and let his WR make a play.
If you aren't going to have accuracy, you need to be a gun slinger and take some chances. Lack of accuracy and only throwing short routes won't get your very far.
Well, I'm far from a Quinn defender, the truth be told both he and Anderson were the league's worst in YPA, whether that is a product of the offensive Coordinator, or Mangini's reticence to turn either one loose, but 5.1 and 5.2 ypa just won't get it done, that is the worst in the NFL by far.
What boggles me is Jake Delhomme is...washed up..seriously the Panthers are my local team and Delhomme has never been the same since he had 5 turnovers in a playoff loss to the Cardinals.
So why are the Browns and new VP Holmgren paying him 7 million to play this year?
:dunno:
And relatively speaking, Chad Pennington at 2.5 million looks like a real bargain.
"PhiNomina wrote:
I have watched every Browns game since that draft and Quinn's problem is he NEVER goes downfield. Ever. He makes Chad Pennington look like Rex Grossman.
Yes, the Browns have been bad, but that doesn't mean every throw had to be in the flats to a back. He had no guts to go downfield and let his WR make a play.
If you aren't going to have accuracy, you need to be a gun slinger and take some chances. Lack of accuracy and only throwing short routes won't get your very far.
Great observation PhiNomina. I haven't seen as many Browns games (with Quinn playing QB) as you have, but in the games I did see he played exactly as you said. Throwing shorter/safer routes almost exclusively.
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