Raiders vs. Dolphins - Week 11

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  1. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Miami Dolphins (3-6) vs Las Vegas Raiders (2-7)
    Game Info: Sunday, November 17, 2024 at 1:00 pm (Hard Rock Stadium)

    Betting Odds: Miami Dolphins -7.5 --- Over/Under: 44

    In this article, we will formulate a Las Vegas Raiders vs Miami Dolphins Prediction for this NFL Week 10 game on Sunday, November 17th, at the Hard Rock Stadium. To formulate this prediction, we will examine:

    -The Raiders’ recent form and recent player performance
    -The Dolphins’ recent form and recent player performance
    -Recent Betting trends and streaks involving Las Vegas
    -Recent Betting trends and streaks involving Miami
    -Recent betting trends in games played between Las Vegas and Miami
    -A summary that ties it all together and produces a favorable betting outcome for Today’s Game between the Raiders and Dolphins.

    Raiders Are Bad
    There is no other way to put it with the Raiders, they are just flat-out awful. The Raiders have lost five games in a row and it’s gotten worse and worse each game they have played. In the last game, the Raiders faced off against the Cincinnati Bengals and they gave up 41 points on the way to the defeat. Gardner Minshew completed 10 of his 17 passes for 124 yards. They allowed Joe Burrow to throw four or five touchdowns, and the defense is going to need to be better. The Raiders did have a bye last week so they should be well rested heading into this game.

    The Raiders are averaging 18.7 points per game while their defense is giving up 27.8 points per game. The offense is ranked 25th in the league while the defense is ranked 30th. If they want any chance in this game, the defense is going to need to be better. Aidan O’Connell is still dealing with a hand injury and is on the IR.

    Dolphins Can’t Slip Up
    The Dolphins can’t slip up here. They have a 3-6 record and some momentum after their last win. On Monday night the Dolphins faced off against the Los Angeles Rams and they were able to secure the 23-15 victory. Tua Tagovailoa had a strong game completing 20 of his 28 passes for 207 yards, one touchdown, and one interception. He continues to make bonehead decisions with his health at times and against the Rams, it was trying to make a tackle after an interception that led to him getting hit in the head. Even though they won, the running game wasn’t great and they are going to need Devon Achane to be better here.

    The Dolphins are averaging 16.3 points while their defense is giving up 22.4 points per game. The offense is ranked 30th in the league while the defense is ranked 17th. In this game, the Dolphins offense will need to get out to a fast start.

    Why the Dolphins Will Beat the Raiders
    • The Dolphins have won each of their last eight Sunday games against opponents on a losing streak.
    • The Raiders have lost nine of their last 10 Sunday road games.
    • The Dolphins have covered the spread in eight of their last nine November games as home favorites against AFC opponents.
    • The Raiders have failed to cover the spread in 13 of their last 16 road games against teams that held a losing record.
    • The Raiders have lost the first half in each of their last seven road games following a loss.
    • The Raiders have lost the first quarter in 15 of their last 20 Week 11 games.
    Las Vegas Raiders vs Miami Dolphins Prediction
    The Dolphins are going to put on a show here. The Raiders defense just allowed Burrow to throw for five touchdowns and it’s going to be much of the same here. The Dolphins are going to get a huge game from Tua Tagovailoa and that is going to be the difference here. The Raiders aren’t going to be keeping up here with their terrible offense and the Dolphins are going to end up cruising to the victory. Back the Dolphins against the spread here.
     
  2. Etrius24

    Etrius24 Well-Known Member

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    This is a must win game...

    But the game itself will tell us a lot about the Dolphins. The Raiders are a dumpster fire. Will the Dolphins play down to their opponents like they have done so many times before in the past?

    They really need to take control and win this game by at least 3 touchdowns...
     
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  3. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Every game is must win game. They need to win by 1 point. I would love for them to win by 3 TDs but even if they squeak out a win it doesn't make them a lesser team.
     
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  4. Tuanon4Life

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    The universal narrative for the better part of the last two seasons has been Miami beats up on inferior teams but can't beat anyone with a winning record. Playing down to their opponents isn't something I'm worried about.
     
  5. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    I was going to write this same thing. People just making stuff up in order to make the Dolphins look bad.
     
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  6. Sceeto

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    Crosby has a gimpy ankle, so hopefully that slows him down if he plays.
     
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  7. resnor

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    How would it not? If we are truly a playoff caliber team, then we *should* destroy them. Now, if they play up to our level and they score points, then I agree, even a 1 point win is a win, and wouldn't make them a lesser team.

    But if both teams play like bad teams, and we "squeak out" a win in a low scoring affair by 1 point, that wouldn't point towards the Dolphins being a good team, would it?

    I'm honestly not trying to argue, I just truly don't understand the position you're taking.
     
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  8. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    So because something was true last year or the year before, means it must be true this year? I think we have already seen the team play down, this season.
     
  9. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Here's why. You all have some preconceived notion of how this or that game should go. Did it matter that we played "up" to the Bills and then lost even though we played better? Not a damn bit. it's still a W. If they played every playoff team competitively and lost on a FG at the end of every game where does you narrative fit? Does that mean they're playoff team good? All that matters is a W.

    Vegas only has the Fins by 1 TD but somehow its a disappointment that if it's not 3 TD's.
     
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  10. Tuanon4Life

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    When we had practice squad QBs yes Res.
     
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    Tyreek Hill was one of six Miami Dolphins players absent from practice Wednesday. Hill, 30, is dealing with a wrist injury that was suffered in August, but re-aggravated last week. While he missed two practices ahead of a Week 10 game against the Los Angeles Rams, the receiver played in the contest and finished with three receptions for 16 yards and a touchdown.

    Also absent Wednesday was cornerback Kendall Fuller, who has already been ruled out for Week 11 against the Las Vegas Raiders, due to his second concussion of the season.

    Wednesday participation

    DNP
    • OT Terron Armstead (rest/knee)
    • DT Calais Campbell (rest)
    • CB Kendall Fuller (concussion)
    • WR Tyreek Hill (wrist)
    • OG Robert Jones (knee)
    • S Jordan Poyer (rest)
    Limited

    • FB Alec Ingold (calf)
    • OG Isaiah Wynn (quad/knee)
    Full
    • OLB Tyus Bowser (knee/calf)
    • TE Julian Hill (shoulder)
    • S Jevón Holland (hand/knee)
    • CB Kader Kohou (knee)
    • S Patrick McMorris (calf)
    Wynn and McMorris are both on injured reserve, but had their practice windows to return opened. They would each have to be moved to the active roster to be available to play Sunday.
     
  12. Sceeto

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    We should absolutely be able to destroy them and beat them by a good margin.
    All of these high caliber, high priced players on offense. All of these contracts given out, a QB who is elite, etc, etc, against a team with a bad D. if not now, when? How would you expect to go kick some *** in the cold in December against good teams?
    It’s like some are making excuses before the game is even played. No. Man up and kick some rump. :)
     
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  13. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    All some of you do is talk about the past 25 years. As if Joe Philbin and Jay Cutler have any bearing on this team. Lol
     
  14. Finatik

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    Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill was on the field for practice on Thursday and he doesn’t plan to let the wrist injury that’s been bothering him this season force him off of it.

    Hill appeared on the injury report because of the injury when he missed practice time last week, but later said that the wrist has been bothering him since the summer. On Thursday, Hill told reporters that he’s “locked in” to playing through the injury even though there’s been some thought given to having a surgical procedure.

    “Surgery was brought up and it was talked about whenever I talked to a few of the doctors,” Hill said, via Joe Schad of the Palm Beach Post. “It’s my call at the end of the day and my call is to stay on the field.”

    The fact that an operation is on the table now suggests that it will remain an option whenever Hill is done playing this season, so Hill may be going under the knife at one point or another.
     
  15. resnor

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    Well, couldn't I just the same, argue that that the Vegas odds are telling you something, it's just that you don't want to hear it? It would seem Vegas does not think we are really any better than the Raiders.

    If the Raiders are a bad team...
     
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  16. resnor

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    I'm not sure what that means? I was responding to someone who said that because we pointed out in past seasons that the offense was only elite against bad teams, that that means it must be the same today.

    I was saying, a problem two seasons ago doesn't mean it's a problem today. It could be a problem. We could have other problems.
     
  17. Etrius24

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    How do I like this over and over and over again... I only see one like button.
     
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  18. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    7.5 point favorite makes me think that Vegas has a different opinion. Only Jacksonville has a worse spread 14 points. Houston is the same as us. All other spreads are in the 3-5 range. This doesn't remotely support a 3 TD win - even the Jags at Detroit doesn't.
     
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  19. TheHighExhaulted

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    Yes, a 7.5 spread at -120 odds is a significant spread. The second highest in the NFL this week.
     
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  20. The_Dark_Knight

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    The Dolphins need to REALLY stay focused and on point in preparing for this game. I have a feeling this is a trap game, like last year against Tennessee. We should...SHOULD easily beat the Raiders and I've picked the Dolphins to do so, but every team has that ONE game that bites them in the a$$.
     
  21. pumpdogs

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    No such thing as a trap game when ur longest winning streak of year is 1 game.
     
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  22. danmarino

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    The average NFL spread is about 5-5.5 points. Anything close to a 7 point spread is very telling.

    Also, the spread is that high because Vegas is trying to get more people to pick the Raiders. It’s how they hedge their bets. The overwhelming majority of bettors are picking Miami. The only people that may not be picking Miami are their “fans” here and Raider fans.

    Vegas picks the spread based upon what they think will get people betting. If everyone bets on one team they will adjust the spread in order to get people to bet on the other team.
     
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  23. Finatik

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    Mike McDaniel has said amid the Dolphins' struggles this season that adversity would reveal the character of the team. Miami's coach was impressed with his team's character during a recent three-game losing streak, and he credited it with the Dolphins' win Monday night over the Los Angeles Rams.

    “That’s why I was proud of the effort," he said, “and I’ve been proud of the week-by-week commitment to getting better as a football team even when the results weren’t necessarily showing up in the win column.”

    Tua Tagovailoa and the Dolphins (3-6) have a big opportunity the next two weeks, with consecutive home games against losing teams, starting Sunday against the Las Vegas Raiders (2-7).

    The Raiders have lost five straight games. Three were by more than 15 points, including last week's loss to Cincinnati. Their offense is averaging 280.2 yards per game, fourth worst in the league.

    “I think it’s going to show the character of the people in this building,” Raiders cornerback Nate Hobbs said. “I think everybody in this building and everybody in this locker room is strong enough to forget about the past and focus on the now and the next eight games.”

    Gardner Minshew received a vote of confidence this week when coach Antonio Pierce said he would remain the starting quarterback.
    Minshew has completed 67% of his passes but has thrown for just six touchdowns. He has eight interceptions and four fumbles. He was replaced by Aidan O’Connell after five games and nearly lost the job to Desmond Ridder.
    “It could be tough, man, no doubt about it,” Minshew said. “But I’ve been there before, been through it, and excited for the opportunity ahead. That’s really all we have. We got these days to prepare, and we got a game coming up. We’re focused on that and letting it rip.”

    He'll be facing a defense that's coming off one of its strongest performances of the season.

    Miami's 10th-ranked defense did not give up a touchdown against the Rams and has forced three turnovers in the past two games. The Dolphins have held their opponents to 32% on third-down conversions, the third-best mark in the league this year.

    “This league is about enduring and getting better,” Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver said. “I talked to the guys about having faith in the middle of the season. It's so long, and it's so grueling that it exposes the fraught. And if you're not willing to push yourself and constantly get better throughout, then you'll have a failing season.”

    Mayer returns
    Tight end Michael Mayer, back after missing the past six games for personal reasons, said he was grateful to the Raiders organization.

    “They’ve been with me through the whole thing, so I really appreciate that,” Mayer said. “I couldn’t ask for a better organization, a better support system. It was a personal matter. Me and my family handled it behind closed doors.”

    Mayer said he was thrilled to return to practice Wednesday. He and Brock Bowers give the Raiders one of the NFL’s top tight end combinations. Mayer, drafted in the second round last year out of Notre Dame, started the first two games this season and played in three. He caught four passes for 21 yards. Las Vegas drafted Bowers 13th this year out of Georgia. He has 57 catches for 580 yards and two touchdowns.

    Campbell's impact
    In describing the impact defensive tackle Calais Campbell has had, McDaniel called the veteran the “Tom Brady of defensive linemen.” Campbell has a team-high three sacks and is tied for third-most solo tackles at 25. The 38-year-old had a sack, three tackles and two pass breakups on Monday night.

    “He’s got some fountain of youth going,” McDaniel said. “He’s playing as good of ball — He’s playing young 30(-year-old) Calais ball, which is a testament to how he prepares. And a huge part of our team.”
     
  24. Finatik

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    Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel opened up his Friday press conference by fielding a question about cornerback Jalen Ramsey. Ramsey popped up on the injury report on Thursday as a limited participant in practice due to a knee injury. McDaniel was asked about the circumstances of the injury and his outlook for Sunday’s game against the Raiders.

    “Something that came up during practice,” McDaniel said. “We’ll see how it plays out today. Either way, I don’t rule out warriors like he is. An internal part of our team. I know that he’ll do what he is able to do today. We’ll be optimistic for the game knowing that if he doesn’t play it’s because he can’t.”

    Ramsey has not missed a game this season and has 35 tackles, an interception, and four passes defensed.
     
  25. djphinfan

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    No Mike, not proud until we see enough to make us forget your bad start as a football team.

    losing to the titans and colts means your team was not prepared enough, did not play hard enough, that’s on you, so they need to take that hit until they fix it, then we’ll be proud
     
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  26. Etrius24

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    This.... Someone over the last few days in one of these threads posted.... We cannot have trap games when our season long winning streak is one.

    Statements like that sadly are true... and for that reason, until there is an overwhelming amount of evidence, we should remain skeptical of this football team.
     
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    Not having your starting quarterback and your GM not having a quality back-up on the team certainly had NOTHING to do with that.
     
  28. The_Dark_Knight

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    I'm the one who used the term trap game. To me, a trap game has nothing to do with a winning streak but more to the point of a game you SHOULD win and lose, getting trapped in your own self confidence.
     
  29. djphinfan

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    No im not buying that DK, they should have been better prepared to beat those teams without Tua, that’s on them, they played poorly.

    if you fall apart if your Qb goes down then you got some issues.
     
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    Are you saying this game might be a trap game for the phins?
     
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    If you fall for a trap game at 3-6 you have a serious culture problem in the organization.
    Overconfidence shouldn't exist when u know 3-7 ur season is all but over.
     
  32. Etrius24

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    I was talking about the person who replied brilliantly that we cannot have trap games when we do not have winning streaks longer than 1...

    Cheers.
     
  33. resnor

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    Right...but when you are 3-6, no game should be a trap game. You aren't good enough to be overlooking anyone. That would speak volumes about the coaches and this team, if this was a trap game, the way you describe.
     
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  34. The_Dark_Knight

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    I get the frustration but if you believe the lack of backup quarterback quality is an indictment on the head coach, you need to redirect that ire to the GM.

    The head coach coaches what he’s given to work with.
     
  35. djphinfan

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    I agree with your last statement in theory and in practical terms, it is how how I would structure the front office.

    GM picks the groceries and the coaches coach

    now, when you look at this particular situation in a vacume, what McDaniel did for Tua’s career, the scheme specifics, I can see a scenario where Grier acquiesces to MCD on the backup position.

    the real issue in that is when you allow head coaches think they can be the GM, it’s mostly a mistake, tough enough to do one thing at this level let alone be good at two different skill sets .
     
  36. The_Dark_Knight

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    Oh you're right, when you're 3-6 every game should be viewed as a playoff game and not overlook anyone. Every player and coach should have a desperation that this could be their very last game.
     
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  37. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Quite a few assumptions in that last post, don't you think?
     
  38. TheHighExhaulted

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    Get me to 5-6.
     
  39. TheHighExhaulted

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    Pierce was one of the morons telling Tua to retire. Tua probably didn't like that. Hope he runs it up on him today.
     
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    Looking forward to a nice solid 14-10 win. Let's gO Dolphins
     
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